If the giants trade their first round next year and a second this year, it’s a no Brainer. Otherwise you draft the guy they want 🙂 and then trade them when they are on the clock lol.

But trading has worked out well for the clowns in the past….

Adam scheifter reported on NFL live that the Giants are in love with USC QB Sam Darnold and that the Browns have Darnold UCLA QB Josh Rosen and Wyoming QB Josh Allen Graded Really close.

And that, right there ^^ ladies and gentleman, is why the Browns will be taking Barkley at 1.

Once again, as I have explained a number of times, there is absolutely no separation whatsoever for the Browns on the QB position. This factor is an amazingly important one, and one that all of you are drastically overlooking for reasons that I cannot understand.

The Browns do not, I repeat, DO NOT favor one particular QB. That is an absolute fact. They are rated as interchangeable on their board. That means that they don’t car which one they get. No one stands out.

That is why they are taking Barkley at 1. It insures they get the best player in the draft and a QB of the future. Passing on Barkley is far too risky because the Giants may very well be inclined to take him at 2, leaving the Browns with a QB they could have had at 4 anyway and no Barkley. Taking Barkley at 1 ensures they got both not matter what happens. (read that paragraph as many times as needed).

I cannot for the life of me understand why no one listens to me when I explain this. If the Browns had a particular QB rated higher than any another, then without question they would take that QB at 1. They’d roll the dice on Barkley falling to 4 and if he didn’t, they’d live with it and take the next best BPA becasue they got their guy at QB.

But they don’t. I cannot emphasize enough how important that viewpoint is, and how impactful it is on the draft and their draft strategy.

Not giving even 1 shit about which QB they get between the 3 of Rosen Darnold and Allen (which they absolutely do not) because they are rated identically to each other on their board, means that they are going to take the Best Player in the Draft at 1 and wait to see who they have left at 4 because they are guaranteed to get 1 of them.

When this is exactly what happens on draft night, every one of you guys on this site are going to line up to praise my awesomeness, awareness, wherewithal, insight, and outright factual knowledge to what just took place. And let me tell you I am going to take my sweet time receiving just that from all of you.

It’s not just that I am certain about this, it’s that the decision HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE. It’s already been decided. There is no debate and there is no discussion. The strategy to go this route was discussed and agreed upon, and that’s just all that there is to it.

You all have 37 days to accept this, and then prepare to hail me as you unquestioned dark overlord for a period of time I so choose.

Perhaps it’s because you’re stating your opinion as fact.

Iiiiiiiii’m just sayin’, when it comes out as fact and not opinion, we’re gonna have ourselves a Donald Trump-sized yuge “I told you so” party, and everyone is invited lol. No one knows I told you so’s better than me, trust me, okay. It’s gonna be the biggest I told you so ever built, and all of you are going to pay for it!

This is not an opinion:

the Browns have Darnold UCLA QB Josh Rosen and Wyoming QB Josh Allen Graded Really close.

It’s an amazingly important fact.

Don’t get me wrong, I fully support what it is that you’re saying. If the Browns were in love with a QB and they were in total “this-is-our-guy” slam-dunk, no-brainer consensus prospect mode on him, then hell yes without question you take that guy at 1 and you don’t look hesitate or look back. That’s the way to go, of course. But that just isn’t the case. It sure as hell would be easier if it were I’ll tell ya that.

There is no way those 3 guys have similar grades on anyone’s draft board.

There absolutely is and that’s exactly what has happened. Maybe not on everyone’s draft board, but on the Browns draft board they are and that’s the only board that matters. That is the crux of this entire point. It is paramount to their decision-making.

Let’s say hypothetically that Barkley didn’t declare and wasn’t part of this draft. I firmly believe that the Browns still wouldn’t know which QB they would be taking until they went on the clock on draft day, and would probably take the entire time to second guess themselves. That, is how incredibly close the Browns have the top 3 QB’s ranked/rated. Don’t you find it a bit odd that Adam Shefter reported THE EXACT SAME THING that I have said for weeks? Is that just a coincidence, or can you dare to believe that it has some validity to it? Do you think he’s just stating his “opinion”, or do you think he has some inside knowledge of what they’re thinking in Berea?

The total lack of separation among the QB’s is powering taking Barkley at 1.

If you take a QB at 1 and miss on him, you’re not only wrong about the QB but you miss out on getting Barkley. If you take Barkley first, even if the QB falters you can still walk away getting the best player in the draft. The Browns want both and there’s only one way to get both and that’s taking Barkley first.

soup wrote:

@shooter where is this information coming from? Not a single person stating this info predicted any of the Browns trades this off-season. If they can’t predict their trades, how in the hell would they possibly know their draft board?

Just exactly what I was goin to say. The Browns executed a metric shit ton of moves within a 24 hour period, and nobody, nobody, NOBODY had any idea it was coming ahead of time.

But, Shooter happens to be in on the most closely guarded information over a month in advance? Smells like bull to me.

Also, I find it odd that our owner would go watch Darnolds pro day after the decision to draft Barkley has already been carved in stone.

@shooter where is this information coming from?

Ask Shefter. See if he’ll give up a source lol.

The Browns executed a metric shit ton of moves within a 24 hour period, and nobody, nobody, NOBODY had any idea it was coming ahead of time.

I find that statement to be totally bereft of logic. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, knew that the Browns were going to launch into a flurry of moves with the addition of Dorsey to the FO, the draft capital we had, the cap room we had, and the glaring holes we had on a team that went 0-16

I’m to believe you didn’t see a roster overhaul coming? Are you serious? We ALL knew that was coming.

Also, I find it odd that our owner would go watch Darnolds pro day after the decision to draft Barkley has already been carved in stone.

Why? Knowing and seeing everything there is to know and see about the QB’s is still a vital element to the future of the organization. It’s not odd at all, it’s prudent.

Not to mention Hue hugged Darnold at the end of his workout

Now we’re basing prognostications on hugs? Are you fucking kidding me lol?

Dawg E. Dawg wrote:

Woah woah woah, back up there. You’re trying to completely change my statement, and I’m not about to let that happen. I’m not talking about “knowing the Browns would be making moves,” because yes, everybody knew the Browns would be making SOME KIND of moves. I’m talking about knowing specifically that in the late afternoon of Friday, March 9, the Browns would be making 4 trades and getting rid of Kizer and Shelton while adding Taylor and Landry. See the difference? Nobody knew ANY of the specifics. It didn’t come out ahead of time at all, just all of a sudden…BOOM!!! 4 trades.
In the same way, we all know the Browns will be making draft picks. Nobody knows exactly WHO the Browns will be picking, because that info is being closely guarded. THATS my argument.

Rather than me writing this same thing a different way, read his again until it sinks in.

So you’re saying it’s not reasonable people would find out about the trade but it is reasonable the Browns are telling everyone their exact plan for pick #1 in the draft?

When did you full blown go off the deep end?

Oh, and they Schefter but just seems like confirmation bias to me. I’ve seen other media personalities saying the Browns are taking Darnold. While Schefter usually just reports what’s already happened, he can be pretty loose when he reports “what I’m hearing.” And since he works for ESPN and ESPN is televising the draft, what better way to increase the drama for the draft then to have their guy report that 3 QBs are in a dead heat to be the first guy taken??

I don’t believe @shooter would lie about having inside information just to enhance his image with us. We’re really not worth it. But I believe someone has deceived Shooter into believing that they have inside info, Shooter believed them, then he passed that info to us. Then he made a bunch of bets that he’s gonna regret.

If indeed Darnold is the Giants most desired QB and He’s not the QB the Browns want, then absolutely you make the trade. The Giants need to give up at least their second round pick this year, but I want to milk them for more draft capital than that if at all possible, especially since the move up would be for a franchise QB.