Interesting read from ESPN on Hue and Haley

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  • #14096
    Ice
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    Interesting read, I wonder where he got those details from.

    I absolutely hate the list of possible HC’s at the end of the article.

    #14097
    mike barnes
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    It’s all about Baker and his development period, look for a young up and coming OC or college coach to be hired shortly after the season ends.

    #14098
    Dawg E. Dawg
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    Interesting read, I wonder where he got those details from.
    I absolutely hate the list of possible HC’s at the end of the article.

    My guy is Matt Campbell. For 3 reasons:

    1.) he coached, with a lot of success, at the university of Toledo

    2.) I’m a UT alumnus

    3.) if I’m not predisposed to liking a coach for some arbitrary reason (such as coaching at my alma mater), I’ll be predisposed to not liking them, and looking forward to the inevitable NEXT HC.

    #14102
    Ice
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    I’m not excited about anyone. Hue and Haley didn’t work out at all, but that’s a hell of a lot of NFL offensive experience that we got rid of. I don’t like the idea of bringing in someone with very little or zero NFL experience to teach our franchise QB the ways of the NFL.

    #14109
    Dawg E. Dawg
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    I’m not excited about anyone. Hue and Haley didn’t work out at all, but that’s a hell of a lot of NFL offensive experience that we got rid of. I don’t like the idea of bringing in someone with very little or zero NFL experience to teach our franchise QB the ways of the NFL.

    Developing the QB is more on the QB coach and the offensive coordinator. The HC just has to bring in the right people, and oversee everything from a high level. Keep everybody on the same page.

    #14110
    MDP Sack Attack
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    To me it’s Josh McDaniels. End list.

    #14111
    the dude
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    @dawgedawg UT alumnis here also…. Really like Matt and was said to see him go. Not sure if he is pro worthy, but he will be coaching someone big someday for sure.

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #14112
    the dude
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    To me it’s Josh McDaniels. End list.

    Just not sure about this…. Didn’t he draft Tebow in the first round?

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #14113
    Dawg E. Dawg
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    To me it’s Josh McDaniels. End list.

    Just not sure about this…. Didn’t he draft Tebow in the first round?

    Yes, and there was a LOT of disfunction while he was HC in Denver. The thought is that he wasn’t ready to be a HC at that time, and that he’s learned from it and IS ready now.

    Personally, I don’t buy it. I think his success is more a product of NE’s system than his own cleverness.

    #14114
    Dawg E. Dawg
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    @dawgedawg UT alumnis here also…. Really like Matt and was said to see him go. Not sure if he is pro worthy, but he will be coaching someone big someday for sure.

    Agreed. I could see him taking over for Urban if he decides to step down as the rumors (that I don’t believe) say he might.

    #14115
    soup
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    On the coaching front, like the draft, I’m going to trust Dorsey. His track record of drafts speaks for itself. He knows the game

    Freedom!!!

    #14116
    Dawg E. Dawg
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    On the coaching front, like the draft, I’m going to trust Dorsey. His track record of drafts speaks for itself. He knows the game

    Agreed. Plus, the coaches for the teams he worked for previously were Andy Reid and Mike McCarthy, so I think he has an idea of what a successful NFL HC should look like.

    #14119
    MDP Sack Attack
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    To me it’s Josh McDaniels. End list.

    Just not sure about this…. Didn’t he draft Tebow in the first round?

    Yes, and there was a LOT of disfunction while he was HC in Denver. The thought is that he wasn’t ready to be a HC at that time, and that he’s learned from it and IS ready now.
    Personally, I don’t buy it. I think his success is more a product of NE’s system than his own cleverness.

    I don’t know about a “lot” of dysfunction, but regardless it was a decade ago and he was the same age as a lot of his players at the time. Rarely do coaches get it right on their first try, and by the time the offseason rolls around he’ll have had eight years to reflect on his previous experience.

    As for his being a product of NE’s system, evidently they thought highly enough of him to bring him back just before the playoffs in 2011. They’ve also made him the highest paid assistant coach in the league, which isn’t something you’d do for a “system” guy. Dude has been Tom Brady’s coach more often than not since 2004, and even led Matt Cassel to the playoffs one year. I can’t think of anyone I’d rather have coaching Mayfield.

    #14123
    Ice
    Keymaster

    Plus, the coaches for the teams he worked for previously were Andy Reid and Mike McCarthy, so I think he has an idea of what a successful NFL HC should look like.

    It is very likely Mike McCarthy will be available after this season. I’d take him over McDaniels any day. McDaniels with Tom Brady is amazing. McDaniels without Tom Brady has proven to be awful.

    #14128
    Shooter
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    I think his success is more a product of NE’s system

    To be fair, New Englands system is pretty much HIS system. Aside from Denver he’s been the OC in NE since prohibition.

    Also, Tim Tebow is a horrible quarterback. Putrid. Yet, McDaniels not only got that dude to the playoffs, but actually beat the Steelers with him.

    Just sayin’.

    He’s not my first choice, I’d take Mike McCarthy any day of the week, but I wouldn’t be upset if it were him.

    #14129
    MDP Sack Attack
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    It is very likely Mike McCarthy will be available after this season. I’d take him over McDaniels any day. McDaniels with Tom Brady is amazing. McDaniels without Tom Brady has proven to be awful.

    Matt Cassel says “what up”.

    #14132
    Ice
    Keymaster

    Matt Cassel says “what up”.

    Bill Belicheck says “not much fam. You?”

    #14133
    MDP Sack Attack
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    Matt Cassel says “what up”.

    Bill Belicheck says “not much fam. You?”

    That doesn’t sound like something Belicheck would say…?

    #14134
    Ice
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    Bill Belicheck says “Hmph.”

    #14135
    soup
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    In regards to the Belichick coaching tree, no one under him has become a successful NFL head coach. I’d be real leery of McDaniels

    Freedom!!!

    #14136
    MDP Sack Attack
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    Bill Belicheck says “Hmph.”

    Perfect.

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