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- February 11, 2019 at 2:09 pm #15377MDP Sack AttackParticipant
I am absolutely not cool with this.
February 11, 2019 at 2:17 pm #15379the dudeParticipantDid you watch the actual video? He literally tapped a woman with his foot.
Hopefully he changed his life around and got help for his obvious drinking / drug problem.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
February 11, 2019 at 2:18 pm #15380soupParticipantI’ll be rooting for his knee to shatter and a fumble every play. I hope Burfict ends his career with a head shot. This disgusts me. Maybe Ogunjobi will Theismann this pussy in camp
Freedom!!!
February 11, 2019 at 2:32 pm #15381the dudeParticipantI’ll be rooting for his knee to shatter and a fumble every play. I hope Burfict ends his career with a head shot. This disgusts me. Maybe Ogunjobi will Theismann this pussy in camp
What if they follow the soup plan and hand the ball off 50+ times a game and win the souperbowl?
Hue Jackson is a loser.
February 11, 2019 at 2:34 pm #15382the dudeParticipantHeadline should say:
“Browns sign new kicker after workout video”
Too soon?
Hue Jackson is a loser.
February 11, 2019 at 2:43 pm #15383DawgstyleParticipantHe’s a great football player, but we’re talking about something much bigger than football here. I’ll be interested to see what the NFL’s investigation yields. I’ll be interested to see why, in spite of the video evidence, charges weren’t filed. I supported them through 1-15 and 0-16, I was excited for this last season and looking forward to the next. But this…
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0February 11, 2019 at 3:00 pm #15384DawgSoldierParticipantWell Freddie did use a 3 back set really well. Said 3 back set just got a HUGE upgrade when you can hand it off to any of the 3 or pass it to them. Oh and good luck covering Duke and Hunt with LB’s. 😀 That would be the bright side.
Now for the he WTF is going here?!!? Is a domestic abuser of a local woman just signed with the team. Hunt had better had a come to Jesus moment and be in some kind of rehab/therapy.
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February 11, 2019 at 3:05 pm #15385DawgSoldierParticipantBears noting, in wake of Browns signing Kareem Hunt, that co-owner Dee Haslam sits on NFL conduct committee.
— Tony Grossi (@TonyGrossi) February 11, 2019
Another piece to the puzzle?
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February 11, 2019 at 3:07 pm #15387DawgSoldierParticipantStatement from GM John Dorsey: pic.twitter.com/TUgoBalvkg
— Cleveland Browns (@Browns) February 11, 2019
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February 11, 2019 at 3:09 pm #15389the dudeParticipantHe’s a great football player, but we’re talking about something much bigger than football here. I’ll be interested to see what the NFL’s investigation yields. I’ll be interested to see why, in spite of the video evidence, charges weren’t filed. I supported them through 1-15 and 0-16, I was excited for this last season and looking forward to the next. But this…
Well he sounds like he has been in therapy for sure. Did you see his statement?
Hue Jackson is a loser.
February 11, 2019 at 3:20 pm #15390soupParticipantCome on ACL. Blow apart into thousands of irreparable pieces while he walks down the stairs today
Freedom!!!
February 11, 2019 at 3:54 pm #15391the dudeParticipantCome on ACL. Blow apart into thousands of irreparable pieces while he walks down the stairs today
Soup rooting against browns again
Hue Jackson is a loser.
February 11, 2019 at 4:42 pm #15392DawgSoldierParticipantMaybe he comes home a lives with his mom as part of his therapy. Bet he won’t land a hand her….
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February 11, 2019 at 4:56 pm #15393IceKeymasterI thought this might happen. Dorsey drafted him.
Does this spell the end for Dooooook? Do we trade him now?
February 11, 2019 at 5:19 pm #15394DawgSoldierParticipantI thought this might happen. Dorsey drafted him.
Does this spell the end for Dooooook? Do we trade him now?Any trade talk would be premature till it is known what Hunt’s availability/suspension situation is…for next season.
That said the sick amount of RPO’s you run from this 3 back set as pure xo’s thing would be fun to watch.
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February 11, 2019 at 5:53 pm #15396ShooterModeratorYou want some cold hard truth here?
Kareem Hunt is a poorly raised, poorly educated ghetto thug hoodrat from Cleveland. I don’t really care how that sounds ecause it’s the truth, and people need to be able to call things as they are.
His entire family is nothing but a bunch of criminals, almost all serving time in prison for having routine felony parties and acting like assholes and bane’s to society. As if all of that isn’t bad enough, all those family members and outstanding fellow citizens who are at least outside the prison walls are all going to be around him constantly because Kareem Hunt is home. So I fully expect this gigantic piece of horribly raised shit to fuck up real real bad real real soon and be sitting out on the front porch with a 40 and glock by summer like everyone else around him does.
John Dorsey is a fucking moron on this move, I’m disgusted by it.
February 11, 2019 at 6:38 pm #15398DawgSoldierParticipanthttp://cloudassetserver.com/STL/posts/185/sp_04_976x0.jpg
February 11, 2019 at 6:52 pm #15399DawgSoldierParticipantYou want some cold hard truth here?
Kareem Hunt is a poorly raised, poorly educated ghetto thug hoodrat from Cleveland. I don’t really care how that sounds ecause it’s the truth, and people need to be able to call things as they are.
His entire family is nothing but a bunch of criminals, almost all serving time in prison for having routine felony parties and acting like assholes and bane’s to society. As if all of that isn’t bad enough, all those family members and outstanding fellow citizens who are at least outside the prison walls are all going to be around him constantly because Kareem Hunt is home. So I fully expect this gigantic piece of horribly raised shit to fuck up real real bad real real soon and be sitting out on the front porch with a 40 and glock by summer like everyone else around him does.
John Dorsey is a fucking moron on this move, I’m disgusted by it.Wow….
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February 11, 2019 at 7:14 pm #15400ShooterModeratorWow….
I wasn’t wrong.
February 11, 2019 at 7:56 pm #15401DawgSoldierParticipantWow….
I wasn’t wrong.
Didn’t say you were or were not. It was more reference to Hunts family’s criminal background.
The way I take you to mean it is the kid might be Aaron Hernandez 2.0 and now he’s back in his old hood as well….
Or am I misinterpreting it?
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February 12, 2019 at 5:01 am #15402ShooterModeratorThe way I take you to mean it is the kid might be Aaron Hernandez 2.0 and now he’s back in his old hood as well….
Or am I misinterpreting it?
I”m not gonna go as far as to call the guy a murderer, but yeah.
I wasn’t kidding about his family background. Someone wrote an article about him a few months ago detailing his upbringing. Father, Uncles, cousins…..all in prison. His whole family is always in and out of prison. None of ’em raised with any semblance of sense. So yeah, being back where he grew up, surrounded by all those people on a full-time basis…..wow that’s just bad bad news.
Keep in mind it’s not just the woman beating that is an issue, the NFL is investigating him for three different incidents that all include assault/physical violence.
He’s an amazing football player, probably one of the best in the league. He’s also an ignorant moron with a penchant for physical violence, and overall has no class or any idea how to act right in a civilized society.
February 12, 2019 at 7:31 am #15403IceKeymasterMarshawn Lynch also grew up in a family where every male family member he knew was dead by 25. Literally. All died violently by the age of 25. Father, uncles, everyone.
I can’t imagine what that does to a person.
February 12, 2019 at 7:42 am #15404Dawg E. DawgParticipantHopefully, Dorsey will follows the Josh Gordon procedure and cut Hunt if he even stubs his toe in a promotional shoot.
That said, I have a couple of thoughts on this. First, everybody is criticizing the Browns primarily because they are the Browns. If it were the Patriots or Steelers, everybody would say how good it will be for Hunt going to such a great organization and blah blah blah. Because it’s the Browns, it’s easy to criticize.
Second, this DOES keep him away from the Steelers, who still have Bell problems.
Third, yes, he’s not a good guy. Being a Toledo Alum I was th biggest Non-KC Hunt fan until everything came out in November. And yeah, that’s completely changed my opinion on him. I don’t necessarily think he deserves a second chance, but he WAS GOING TO GET ONE. The question was just where would it be. When Greg Hardy gets multiple chances, you know Hunt will. You can’t even argue that.
Lastly, while i dont like signing him, I also don’t have a huge problem with it when the league allows Joe Mixon and Tyreek Hill to play. Hell, the even celebrate Hill and promote him, and he’s as a big a piece of shit as there is. I’m not saying those guys justify signing Hunt, I’m just saying Hunts not at the top of my list of people I’d like kicked out of the NFL.
February 12, 2019 at 7:47 am #15405IceKeymasterI’d like to see the contract details too. Supposedly it’s a 1 year for ‘more than $1 million’.
February 12, 2019 at 2:15 pm #15410DawgstyleParticipantI’ve watched the video a few times now, and it’s not as clear cut as I’ve been led to believe:
Now, this is NOT condoning what he did in the least. He was in the wrong. However, there is a difference betting doing something wrong and doing something unforgivable. Before seeing the video, I believed his actions were unforgivable. Now? I’m not so sure. The video has no sound, and as the case of the young man in the MAGA hat proves, context matters.
While Hunt did make physical contact with the woman in connection, this was not a Ray Rice level of assault. I believe there is a reason no charges were filed and no arrests were made, and after watching the video, I don’t think this was a police cover up.
To start with, intially Hunt appears to be trying to reason with the woman. He appears to voice the phrase “Come on” while suggesting she should come back with him. The woman says something to provoke a one armed push from Hunt (it’s impossible to tell from the video what was said due to the lack of sound, and I saw it suggested she spit on him – more on that later).
One of Hunt’s friends tries to hold him back, and as hunt pushes him to the side, the woman strikes Hunt in the face (in the vicinity of his nose). This enrages Hunt, who appears to be wiping something from his face (blood? spit? impossible to tell, but he certainly is wiping something away). His friends rush in and grab him at that point, and the majority of the physical struggle is with them, not the woman.
As Hunt is dragged away, the woman pushes Hunt’s friend (who is attempting to keep space between her and Hunt) backwards. He hits hunt and is knocked forward back into the woman (some reports have Hunt tackling the woman here).
Then Hunt does in fact kick the woman, who is in heels and bent down into a full squat. The kick is delivered with the same force as a push, and is not brutal in nature, knocking the woman off balance, where she falls over (just inches from the floor).
Again, Hunt clearly made mistakes here. But when contrasted by the brutality of actions committed by Ray Rice and Joe Mixon, this incident is nowhere near as disconcerting.
Wrong? 100%. He was stupid to be in this situation and not remove himself as quickly as possible. Unforgivable? I’m not so sure. I am definitely going to be watching to see what comes out of the NFL’s investigation. It was alleged that the woman called Hunt a racial slur, which precipitated the push. The woman definitely escalated the situation by striking him in the face, and she continues to advance towards him after they have been separated, showing no fear.
Watch the video. Did you see what I saw, or do you see something else? I am leaning more towards “wrong” than unforgivable at the moment, not because he plays for the Browns or could help us, but because of the details in the video I’ve outlined above. More information is needed, and I still question Dorsey for bringing him in here, but as the saying goes, the accused has rights.
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0February 12, 2019 at 3:01 pm #15415soupParticipantIt’s unforgivable. All he had to do was stay in his room. He chose to come out. He chose to start the violence. MAGA hat kid is way different. He was smiling at some crazy old wackadoo who marched up into his face beating a drum and didn’t bother moving. He did nothing wrong.
He throw the first physical blow on a woman in a skirt. It’s wrong on all levels. It’s unacceptable
Freedom!!!
February 12, 2019 at 3:13 pm #15417DawgstyleParticipantIt’s unforgivable. All he had to do was stay in his room. He chose to come out. He chose to start the violence. MAGA hat kid is way different. He was smiling at some crazy old wackadoo who marched up into his face beating a drum and didn’t bother moving. He did nothing wrong.
I don’t disagree that staying in his room is what he should have done. However, it looks (to me) like he’s trying to smooth things over. It looks like he’s asking her to come back inside. He doesn’t come out like a guy whose body language suggests that he’s looking for confrontation.
I suspect that she did/said something, and witnesses to the event suggest that was in fact the case. Again, charges weren’t filed and no one was arrested, and it’s not because the video “mysteriously disappeared”. We have the video.
Not trying to change your mind because frankly, I don’t know what was said/done or if anything was said or done (a lack of evidence to file charges or make an arrest is not proof of innocence). Just food for thought.
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0February 12, 2019 at 3:49 pm #15418soupParticipantShe supposedly called him the N word. Whether true or not, the story I read originally was they wanted her to have sex with a couple of the guys and she said no so they threw her out. Hunt has no reason to follow. Unless a woman has a weapon and your life is in danger, you don’t attack them
Freedom!!!
February 12, 2019 at 9:02 pm #15421ShooterModeratorFebruary 13, 2019 at 9:47 am #15422the dudeParticipant@dawgstyle glad someone has some reasoning…. Weird, I said the same thing and these two USERS above blocked me.
Never did I say anything about the situation was correct, but you have to put yourself in their shoes.
Of course I as an elite nfl player would not be out at that time in the morning. I would not be all liquored up and probably smoking pot.
However, once you factor those things in and someone just called you the most hateful and disrespectful word in the entire world while spitting on you, you may try to act tough. No where in the video was any person actually hurt. This cannot be even in comparison with what happened with Ray Rice.
This to me is a classical video of both drinking and a drug problem…. He needs help and he needs to be monitored.
And for the shooters of the world who say this is the worst thing etc etc…. There have been plenty of browns players who have done much worst and things have been covered up.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
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