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Opinion – please share yours.
Offense C- some guys are playing well, but over all disasted
Defense D a few real standouts but really bad positioning so frequentlyKitchens gets a D- because at least he manager to win two games. His team still is the worst in penalties. So many guys look clueless out there at times. Poor preparation – guys quit routes, offensive line missing pick ups, drops, drops drops. Positive is the running game when he uses it
Chubb A – great conditioning and looks elite. Couple tough fumbles.
Baker D – only reason I am not giving him an F is because he is tougher than any other Browns qb. Looks loss, plays loss, has not developed well.
Dorset – F for letting Collins go. F for hiring a coach and letting him be the play caller. F for off-season pickups. They suck. You suck.
Pittsburgh has twice the wins we have. We lost to one of the worst qbs in the league. This team is once again trash.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
Offense – D. We’re leading the league in turnovers and averaging only 19 points per game (3 fewer than we did last season). The only thing keeping it from being an F is Nick Chubb.
Defense – B. With our offense turning it over at almost record levels, the defense is pushed past the breaking point. With the exception of this week vs. Denver, they’ve gotten the job done despite being put in bad position over and over and over. It would be wonderful if we could play with a full secondary but at this point that’s just a dream.
Special Teams – B+. The only thing keeping this group from getting an A is the lack of any splash plays in the return game. They are steady and reliable which is something we haven’t been able to say about special teams in years.@ice thanks I missed special teams and I can say you nailed that on the head.
Mixed feelings on defense. I felt the same way you do…. But when thinking about it, these guys seem to always give up a big play. How many illegal hands to the face has this defense had? It is a real big problem and makes some of their great play look bad. Like I said a few standout players but poor discipline.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
Honestly, whoever allowed a tight end to try to block Nick Bosa by himself on a pass play should have been fired on the spot.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
Our defense misses Damarious Randall to a ridiculous extent. He made our backup corners look like stars. In his absence our starting corners look like backups.
It’s disappointing that Wilks can’t seem to make an adjustment, but apparently Randall existing ten yards back is the entirety of our strategy to cover the middle of the field when blitzing. And we blitz a lot. The past few weeks it’s a easy first down over the middle every time we do.
Our special teams look great. Which is very Browns of us.
Offense – F
Horrible in the red zone. Atrocious playcalling. No blocking. Playbook full of routes that take way too long to develop. Can’t score
Defense – F
Can’t stop the run. Too many big plays at the wrong time.
Special teams is a B+
Coaching is whatever grade is lower than an F-.
No fundamentals in the players. Pure slop. Their logic would fail a football 101 class
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I can’t allow anyone to give this offense an F while Chubb is on it averaging the 2nd most yards per game, getting the 5th most touches per game, and averaging about 5.2 yards per attempt. Those numbers are absurd and mean he’s dominating and we’re using him as much as he should be used. That moves the offense up to a D in my book.
Jus to play a little devils advocate, we have had a RIDICULOUS schedule in terms of the defenses we faced. 6/8 are in the top half of the league, and the other 2 are the Jets, who we beat easily, and the Seahawks, who we put 28 on and the defense lost it.
If we go up from there, the Ravens are 15th, and we put 40 on them. That leaves the Rams, Titans, NE, SF, and DEN, or, in other words, the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 12th, and 13th ranked defenses, in terms of yards per game allowed.
So, the story from those five games is a young offense with a 2nd year QB and a first year HC got smoked by the 2 best defenses in the league, looked like dog shit in their first game, and couldn’t make the big play when they needed to against the 4th and 12th ranked defenses in the league.
2-6 sucks and the penalties and TOs suck, but my point is the offense isn’t THAT far away. I think if we’d had an average schedule to this point, people wouldn’t be HAPPY with the offense, but they’d feel like it was going through the necessary growing pains that lead to bigger and better things. But, an extremely tough defensive schedule has exacerbated those growing pains and made things seem much worse than they are.
I appreciate you playing Devil’s Advocate, it’s a role I enjoy. In this case though I think there’s a much stronger case to be made for a lower grade independent of which defenses we’ve faced. Has Baker improved from last year? Despite massive improvements to personnel have the WR’s improved from last year? How about the line?
I can’t allow anyone to give this offense an F while Chubb is on it averaging the 2nd most yards per game, getting the 5th most touches per game, and averaging about 5.2 yards per attempt. Those numbers are absurd and mean he’s dominating and we’re using him as much as he should be used. That moves the offense up to a D in my book.
An offense and an individual player are separate things. The goal of an offense is to score and not turn the ball over. They fail at both. Hilliard red zone carries is part of the offense. Hiring Monken who made Winston regress for 2 years with his vertical route scheme is part of the offense. Individual grades are a different thing
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Jus to play a little devils advocate, we have had a RIDICULOUS schedule in terms of the defenses we faced. 6/8 are in the top half of the league, and the other 2 are the Jets, who we beat easily, and the Seahawks, who we put 28 on and the defense lost it.
If we go up from there, the Ravens are 15th, and we put 40 on them. That leaves the Rams, Titans, NE, SF, and DEN, or, in other words, the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 12th, and 13th ranked defenses, in terms of yards per game allowed.
So, the story from those five games is a young offense with a 2nd year QB and a first year HC got smoked by the 2 best defenses in the league, looked like dog shit in their first game, and couldn’t make the big play when they needed to against the 4th and 12th ranked defenses in the league.
2-6 sucks and the penalties and TOs suck, but my point is the offense isn’t THAT far away. I think if we’d had an average schedule to this point, people wouldn’t be HAPPY with the offense, but they’d feel like it was going through the necessary growing pains that lead to bigger and better things. But, an extremely tough defensive schedule has exacerbated those growing pains and made things seem much worse than they are.F for not giving us your grade 🙂
The penalties are unacceptable. 6 false starts for an NFL team is ridiculous. Baker is not doing a hard count. This is being undiscipline. Coaching is poor. They haven’t fix these problems. Yes, refs are terrible.
I don’t think we are as close as you think. Baker has really regressed. This is about to get bad again. This is about the time of the year where attitudes turn because the clubhouse is bad. Going to be really bad with the egos in the locker room.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
F for not giving us your grade
The penalties are unacceptable. 6 false starts for an NFL team is ridiculous. Baker is not doing a hard count. This is being undiscipline. Coaching is poor. They haven’t fix these problems. Yes, refs are terrible.
I don’t think we are as close as you think. Baker has really regressed. This is about to get bad again. This is about the time of the year where attitudes turn because the clubhouse is bad. Going to be really bad with the egos in the locker room.Haha, fair point. If we’re evaluating the players, I give them a C-.
The main issue the players have is turnovers. Those happen to every team, especially when facing good defenses. But, you have to find a way to limit the mistakes, and bounce back after they happen. The Browns haven’t done that.
If we include coaches and look at play calls and such, I give them a D-.
A lot of the penalties, such as the false starts, illegal formations, illegal shifts, OPI’s on pick plays, I put those on the coaches. That’s why they drag the offense’s grade down.
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