FYI: Soup and I aren't crazy (Well, at least not me)

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  • #18163
    Shooter
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    Ron Wolf blasts the Browns

    The Browns and assistant general manager Eliot Wolf parted ways today, and in related news, Wolf’s father had some harsh criticism for the Browns’ analytics-heavy approach to building their team.

    Ron Wolf, the Hall of Fame former General Manager of the Packers, told Chris Mortensen of ESPN that he disdains the way analytics have affected both football and baseball. Wolf said the Browns and other teams that embrace analytics are “out of control.”

    “When something goes wrong, who takes responsibility?” Wolf said. “Their answer: ‘Well, that’s what the data told us.’ What a crock. That’s what got ’em 1-31.”

    Ron Wolf certainly has an old-school approach to the game, and it served him well during his tenure in the NFL, which spanned most of the second half of the 20th Century. But in the 21st Century, analytics are an increasingly important part of the NFL. The Browns’ failures don’t negate that.

    Pay real close attention to the bolded quote, it’s important as fuck.

    #18165
    soup
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    It’s mind numbing. My original instinct was correct when Haslam bought the team. He’s losing on purpose to move to England

    Freedom!!!

    #18169
    Dawg E. Dawg
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    Alternate headlines:

    “Old man encourages young analytics punks to get off his lawn.”

    “Dad makes fun of organization that fires his son.”

    #18170
    GABrownsFan
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    “Dad makes fun of organization that fires his son.”

    He ripped the Packers as well when they didn’t promote Eliot.

    #18173
    soup
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    Alternate headlines:
    “Old man encourages young analytics punks to get off his lawn.”
    “Dad makes fun of organization that fires his son.”

    “Guy with brown and orange colored glasses believes that hiring people who directed 1-31 with analytics will work this time especially while hiring the most inexperienced coaching staff at their positions in the NFL.”

    Browns names their new head scout, his name is Microsoft Excel

    Freedom!!!

    #18174
    Dawg E. Dawg
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    Oh, I don’t believe it will work. I’ve stated multiple times, I believe whoever they pick will fail because they will either be a terrible choice, or they will be undermined by Haslam, or they won’t be given enough time in their position to see it through.

    Make no mistake, I have no faith in the Browns organization what so ever. I just don’t place the blame at the feet of analytics. I place it at the feet of Haslam.

    #18180
    Shooter
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    My original instinct was correct when Haslam bought the team. He’s losing on purpose to move to England

    I should’ve known better.

    I take it back, you’re fucking crazy.

    Understand something. Understand something that is an indisputable fact: There will never be an NFL team in England. It doesn’t work. It can’t work. It’s a logistical nightmare that cannot be overcome. It’s an 11 hour flight from Los Angeles to London. Are you really gonna force a west coast team to fly 11 hours during the season, play, then fly back? These one-off games they have are one thing but doing it for an entire season is unthinkable. Would you have them only play East coast teams? What about the London team, you’re gonna have them fly from London to the U.S. 8 times in 17 weeks? That’s absolutely insane.

    And then there’s the players. You have to convince a coaching staff and an entire roster to live in England. Why is it so easily assumed that an entire team of players would have no problem moving to another country on the other side of the World? Going to England, and playing a game in England, is completely different than LIVING in England.

    It sounds “neat” or “cool” to talk about it over a beer, or even watch a game being played in Wembley or some shit, but when you start to look at it seriously or realistically it doesn’t take very long to see that it can’t work.

    How are you paying them? Pounds or Dollars? What the tax structure look like?

    This isn’t going to Canada dude.

    It’l never happen. Write that down and read it everyday until it seeps into your brain.

    #18182
    soup
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    The NFL thought LA could host a team….multiple times. Same with Oakland. It’ll never happen but they keep doing it anyway.

    Haslam is a dirtbag. Anything is possible

    Freedom!!!

    #18186
    Shooter
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    The NFL thought LA could host a team….multiple times. Same with Oakland. It’ll never happen but they keep doing it anyway.

    That’s a completely different argument though. That’s about market. Those cities are still in the United States.

    I’ll state this again…….it’s impossible to do. It doesn’t matter if the NFL and an owner with a team primed to move WANTED to do it, they still couldn’t. Because it CAN’T work.

    #18187
    MDP Sack Attack
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    I have friends who work for gin and rum brands who hop back and forth between Europe and the US multiple times a month. It’s not unheard of. And they don’t have chartered flights.

    #18190
    Shooter
    Moderator

    A couple dudes selling gin isn’t at all the same as traveling an entire football team across the pond.

    #18192
    MDP Sack Attack
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    If you compare small distillery financially to the NFL, their flying one dude 20 times a year is definitely equivocal to the NFL chartering a team a plane 10 times.

    #18202
    Shooter
    Moderator

    It’s not a cost/financial issue though.

    #18226
    soup
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    #18228
    Shooter
    Moderator

    Your point?

    #18229
    soup
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    Your point?

    That’s 25% of their home games. They add 1 they’ll find a way to add in 6 more

    Freedom!!!

    #18230
    MDP Sack Attack
    Participant

    So you’re postulating the Jaguars are moving to Miami?

    #18231
    soup
    Participant

    So you’re postulating the Jaguars are moving to Miami?

    I’m moving to Katmandu

    Freedom!!!

    #18232
    MDP Sack Attack
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    Hippie.

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