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- March 30, 2020 at 9:25 am #18659
Dawg E. Dawg
ParticipantWhat preposterousness, what ludicrisity, what…..I’m just playing, nice work Bill. Definitely nice to have something to read with the sports world at a standstill.
It’s interesting to me that you have Jordan Love so high. It seems to me like he’s been the guy that’s kind of come out of nowhere this year. Just curious.
For the Browns, I would love to see Becton at 10, though most have him as the first OT off the board. Just wondering what your reasoning for his fall is. Just a lack of technique? Or do you think the other 2 are underrated by others?
Also, bold call on the Jags tanking, but I just don’t see it happening. Caldwell has been GM since 2013 and Marrone the Coach since 2017. I can’t see either them being retained after a last place finished, which would be required to get Lawrence. They have to know they’re fighting for their jobs this year.
March 30, 2020 at 2:28 pm #18660BrownsFan4Life
ParticipantIn this scenario, without trades, I have no complaints. Getting a stud LT who will be a fixture for at least the next 5 years is a good thing.
However, I do think the Browns will be trading up in this draft to take Simmons. I just don’t know how far they will have to trade up.
I definitely don’t want them to trade Hunt which is one of the rumors going around in a trade up scenario.March 30, 2020 at 3:40 pm #18661
BillWunkleParticipantI’ve seen or heard of some mocks – with trade scenarios – where the Browns are shut out of the top four OT’s. Needless to say, I’m not a fan of those scenarios because left tackle is the greatest need in terms of the starting lineup. if that ends up being the real life scenario, the Browns will have two options . . . (1) BPA regardless of position and (2) trade down to acquire more draft assets. I’ve also seen mocks where none of the OT’s are off the board when the Browns are on the clock. I’m guessing that’s not very realistic. As far as my preference at the LT position, here’s how I see it:
(1) Mekhi Becton – he’s RAW; but a physically dominating specimen, always pulling out the bottle of whoop’em . . .
(2) Jedrick Wills Jr. – he’s the most polished of the group, and he’s always looking for someone to hit . . .
(3) Tristan Wirfs – the most athletic of the group . . .
(4) Andrew Thomas – nice upside and a good fit for the wide zone run scheme, but he needs to use his hands better when in pass pro. If the Browns do trade down, then I think that USC OT Austin Jackson or Boise State OT Ezra Cleveland come into play; unless they sign a stop gap tackle.Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
March 31, 2020 at 4:15 pm #18662
DawgSoldierParticipantRound 1 Pick 10:
Tristan Wirfs*, OT, Iowa
Height: 6-5. Weight: 320. Arm: 34. Hand: 10.25.
40 Time: 4.85.
Okay right to it. Is Wirfs the best OT in this class? I don’t know. Is he the best football player of the 4 OT’s in this class. I don’t know. What I do know is he is the best scheme fit for the outside zone offence having run one at Iowa. He is also the most athletic. IE IMO The great John Ogdon of the Rats wouldn’t be the best fit in this outside zone as he was a monster of an in line blocker. Thats why I have Mekhi Becton as the 4th OT out of the top 4 based on scheme fit/ability,
About the 2nd round pick, originally I was thinking of going BPA between DE LB and FS. I elimenated DE as I doubt there will be a guy has good as a healthy oliver vernon. I have read thye tried to shop him and no nibbles because of his contract. SO this BPA between FS and LB.
Round 2 Pick 9
Jeremy Chinn, S, Southern Illinois
Height: 6-3. Weight: 219. Arm: 32. Hand: 9.5.
40 Time: 4.45.
This kids walked into Indy and wowed folks. His tape is good too. He is a little raw technique wise. But thats what coaches get paid for. He has the speed and range to play single high FS and the size to drop down into the box.
Round 3 Pick 10
Zack Baun, LB, Wisconsin
Height: 6-2. Weight: 240. Arm: 32.13. Hand: 9.63.
40 Time: 4.65.
Baun has played 34 OLB & ILB and Nickel LB. IMO he is a more physical version of Schobert who cam from the same system/school. Baun is just a tough SoB you want on your team.
Round 3 Pick 33 (COMP)
Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor
Height: 6-2. Weight: 206. Arm: 33.25. Hand: 9.25.
40 Time: 4.38.
Reminds me a lot of Breesaud Perriman when he ways with the Browns. Big bodied deep threat thats a solid number 2 WR. His selection in 3 WR sets lets Landry be the of the best slot recievewrs in the league and Mims speed/size will make you pay if you double OBJ. Mims is a big bodied speed merchant. He’s not gonna win accolades for crisp breaks in routes he runs. But he will be around 2 of the best route runners in the league so that will help.
Round 4 Pick 9
Kenny Willekes, DE, Michigan State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 264. Arm: 31.25 Hand: 9.75.
40 Time: 4.87.
A guy with great technique and high motor and all the other cliche buzz words when it comes to a non explosive white player that just gets stuff done. One of the things I love about the kid, is he RARELY misses tackles. He’ll be a the 3rd DE that roates in.
Round 6 Pick 8
Darrynton Evans*, RB, Appalachian State
Height: 5-10. Weight: 203. Arm: 31.63. Hand: 9.25
40 Time: 4.41.
3rd down back with track speed. He doesn’t break a lot of tackles running the rock, but then again folks would have to catch him 1st. But the reason he is down here in round 6 is the lack of power and ability to get tough yards.
Round 7 Pick 30
Carlos Davis, DT, Nebraska
Height: 6-2. Weight: 313. Arm: 32. Hand: 9.63.
40 Time: 4.82.
All the athletic ability in the world and some the crappiest technique I have ever seen. He’s a project/lotto ticket on the DL based on athletic measurables. He has no highlight reels, because well his technique sucks donkey balls.http://cloudassetserver.com/STL/posts/185/sp_04_976x0.jpg
April 1, 2020 at 11:36 am #18669
IceKeymasterWhen you’re looking at an OT, would you rather have a guy who is average from the neck up but a monster from the neck down, or the opposite?
April 2, 2020 at 11:39 am #18671
DawgSoldierParticipantWhen you’re looking at an OT, would you rather have a guy who is average from the neck up but a monster from the neck down, or the opposite?
On the moster from the neck down…depends on how coachable he is.
On the Average guy thats a got technique down and all that. dpends on how maxed out physically he is.
Thats why interviews/personal workouts are so crucial.
On that topic how do you social distance that?
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April 2, 2020 at 11:58 am #18672
IceKeymasterOn that topic how do you social distance that?
I’m not sure that the NFL has an answer to that yet. We’re in uncharted waters here.
April 2, 2020 at 11:58 am #18673
DawgSoldierParticipantRound 1 Pick 10:
Tristan Wirfs*, OT, Iowa
Height: 6-5. Weight: 320. Arm: 34. Hand: 10.25.
40 Time: 4.85.
Okay right to it. Is Wirfs the best OT in this class? I don’t know. Is he the best football player of the 4 OT’s in this class. I don’t know. What I do know is he is the best scheme fit for the outside zone offence having run one at Iowa. He is also the most athletic. IE IMO The great John Ogdon of the Rats wouldn’t be the best fit in this outside zone as he was a monster of an in line blocker. Thats why I have Mekhi Becton as the 4th OT out of the top 4 based on scheme fit/ability.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yX3tWMCdJ-w%3FAbout the 2nd round pick, originally I was thinking of going BPA between DE LB and FS. I elimenated DE as I doubt there will be a guy has good as a healthy oliver vernon. I have read thye tried to shop him and no nibbles because of his contract. SO this BPA between FS and LB.
Round 2 Pick 9
Jeremy Chinn, S, Southern Illinois
Height: 6-3. Weight: 219. Arm: 32. Hand: 9.5.
40 Time: 4.45.
This kids walked into Indy and wowed folks. His tape is good too. He is a little raw technique wise. But thats what coaches get paid for. He has the speed and range to play single high FS and the size to drop down into the box.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bIeFrCZ1_6U%3FRound 3 Pick 10
Zack Baun, LB, Wisconsin
Height: 6-2. Weight: 240. Arm: 32.13. Hand: 9.63.
40 Time: 4.65.
Baun has played 34 OLB & ILB and Nickel LB. IMO he is a more physical version of Schobert who cam from the same system/school. Baun is just a tough SoB you want on your team.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=73sKroRZcZ4%3FRound 3 Pick 33 (COMP)
Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor
Height: 6-2. Weight: 206. Arm: 33.25. Hand: 9.25.
40 Time: 4.38.
Reminds me a lot of Breesaud Perriman when he ways with the Browns. Big bodied deep threat thats a solid number 2 WR. His selection in 3 WR sets lets Landry be the of the best slot recievewrs in the league and Mims speed/size will make you pay if you double OBJ. Mims is a big bodied speed merchant. He’s not gonna win accolades for crisp breaks in routes he runs. But he will be around 2 of the best route runners in the league so that will help.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Xfzjqf5hgag%3FRound 4 Pick 9
James Lynch*, DT/DE, Baylor
Height: 6-4. Weight: 289. Arm: 31/88. Hand: 9.88.
40 Time: 5.01.
A guy with great technique and high motor and all the other cliche buzz words when it comes to a non explosive white player that just gets stuff done. One of the things I love about the kid, is he RARELY misses tackles. He’ll be a the 3rd DT or DE that rotates in.
Round 6 Pick 8
Darrynton Evans*, RB, Appalachian State
Height: 5-10. Weight: 203. Arm: 31.63. Hand: 9.25
40 Time: 4.41.
3rd down back with track speed. He doesn’t break a lot of tackles running the rock, but then again folks would have to catch him 1st. But the reason he is down here in round 6 is the lack of power and ability to get tough yards.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=UX0NiO8d0lc%3FRound 7 Pick 30
Carlos Davis, DT, Nebraska
Height: 6-2. Weight: 313. Arm: 32. Hand: 9.63.
40 Time: 4.82.
All the athletic ability in the world and some the crappiest technique I have ever seen. He’s a project/lotto ticket on the DL based on athletic measurables. He has no highlight reels, because well his technique sucks donkey balls.edited for the Clayborn signing.
http://cloudassetserver.com/STL/posts/185/sp_04_976x0.jpg
April 20, 2020 at 6:50 am #18789
BillWunkleParticipantSD, I love your effort, but there’s no way that Baun lasts until the third wound. Peace out, bro.
Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
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