Why is starting at 1 weird? All football games start at 1. Even the west coast, it’s just 4 for us on the east coast. Should they start at 230 lol?

Also, I’m going to the Jags game.

Shooter wrote:

Why is starting at 1 weird? All football games start at 1. Even the west coast, it’s just 4 for us on the east coast. Should they start at 230 lol?
Also, I’m going to the Jags game.

Nope. While the west coast teams get preference, the 4:00 games are allotted to high interest games that aren’t in primetime, because there are fewer games that are going on at 4:00.

The best example is always the Cowboys. This year, they play the Giants twice, the Steelers, the Vikings, and the Eagles at 4:00. Even though none of those teams are west coast teams. They also play the Seahawks at 4, but that’s obviously a west coast team. Also, the Seahawks have 2 home games with 1:00 ET kickoff.

This schedule clearly indicates the NFL doesn’t think much of the Browns this year. Which is fine by me, as I didn’t like entering last year with a mountain of unrealistic expectations.

You two gonna have a bucket of fish there that, way passer bys can feed the whales? :p

Dawg E. Dawg wrote:

One more note about the schedule: the NFL CLEARLY doesn’t want their MVP losing to the Browns. Starting a new coach off on the road at Baltimore is bad enough, but for the second meeting, the Browns play the Ravens on a Monday Night with the Ravens coming off a Thursday Night game, meaning the Ravens have an extra 4 days to prepare for it. BS.
Also also, I think it’s BS to send a new coach on the road week one and follow that up with a short turn around for a Thursday night game. It is a home game agains the Bengals, but still. Seems harsh to me.

Yay for early excuses! 1-19-1 is our opening day record since 1999. Enough with the excuses before theseason. If this season is played, anything but making the playoffs is an abject failure by this coaching staff and should cost their jobs. I’m done with excuses. We’ll know week 1 if he’s a coach worth a shit by how much he runs the ball. I’m guessing he’s the same old run it 5 times and throw 400 POS

What rough start? None of those teams are close to elite up through the bye week. Every one of those games is extremely winnable. Stay in your lane and you beat Baltimore because RBs don’t make good QBs. The only thing that makes this schedule look daunting at all is the fact our team is Cleveland. The Washington Generals of the NFL

DawgEDawg, Soup’s just upset because what you posted doesn’t agree with his worldview. What’s Soup’s worldview you ask?

“This season is already a disaster, we’re already 0-16, everyone should be fired and now we’re starting over again and everything is horrible.”

The Bengals have a home game against the Chargers, who went 5-11 last year with Philip Rivers, and will be now starting either a rookie or Tyrod Taylor. And Zac Taylor is in his second season. That’s a soft week 1.

And it has nothing to do with my comments about the Browns schedule.

Holy shit you’re insufferable. “Last years record means zilch??” Sure. The Bengals, Lions, 49ers, and Chiefs are all the same team. Yep. Ok.

I looked at the schedule and offered my thoughts. You’ve provided 0, zip, nada, nothing about the schedule.

Regarding the Ravens, they can prepare now by studying Stefanskis offense from Minnesota. It’s not complicated.

And for the last time, I never made a damn excuse for games that haven’t even been played yet. The Browns had a rough 5 game stretch on their schedule or so after the opener last year, and a shit ton of injuries. That’s fact, not an excuse. Freddie still deservedly got canned. Regardless of the schedule, everybody still expected more, and everybody will have expectations this year. Regardless of the outcomes of week 1, nobody will excuse the browns to lose to the bengals at home, in primetime, in week 2. But, all things being equal, I’m sure Stefanksi would rather not have a short turnaround after his first game as a HC. That’s all I said.

soup wrote:

To me the schedule through the bye would scream a minimum of 6-2 at t he bye for us.

Soup is always full of ridiculous optimism, until his ridiculous pessimism kicks in after the 1st quarter of the first game when he declares the season over.

Can you imagine Soup in WWII?
**as his transport chugs across the Atlantic**
We’re unstoppable! A force this large has never been assembled in the history of the WORLD!!!
**as soon as his transport is within sight of land**
WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!!! WE’RE ALREADY DEAD, WE JUST DON’T KNOW IT YET!!!!!!
**soup accidentally gets thrown overboard**

soup wrote:

The Rams went to the Super Bowl. The following year they missed t playoffs. Last years record doesn’t mean shit. In the late 90s the Rams went 3-13, the following year they won the Super Bowl. The previous years record doesn’t mean shit. Stefanski ran Kubiaks offense last year. We also have a different OC who may or may not call plays so no, they can’t prepare near what we can for the Ravens. To me the schedule through the bye would scream a minimum of 6-2 at t he bye for us. There’s nothing daunting t he RE if you base it off last years meaningless records

How are you coming up with 6-2 if last years records are meaningless??? Do you see just how ridiculous and contradictory your logic is?

And I’m not interested in your 2 cherry picked examples where teams had big swings. Usually big swings up can be attributed a new QB or HC, while big swings down can be attributed to player losses, coach losses, and/or injuries. None of those apply to the Ravens in week 1. And for your 2 examples of swings that you had to look up, there are dozens of examples to the contrary. Like the colts and patriots for most of the 00s. Or the saints since Brees has been there.

soup wrote:

How can you say it’s a rough schedule? No one knows. Go by team? Okay:
Ravens – loss
Bengals – rookie QB and shit coach – W

Right, so, if you read what I wrote, I never said it was a rough schedule. I said it was a rough start to go on the road to Baltimore, and follow that up with a Thursday nighter.

It looks like you agree with me that Baltimore on the road is a rough start, because you penciled in an L for that game. I also said in a follow up that regardless of the circumstances, I still expect the Browns to beat Cincy. Which you agree with.

So what are you arguing? You predict an L, so you’re “making excuses” as much as I am. If you’re arguing that going on the road to one of the most difficult stadiums to play in (historically speaking) for your first game and following that up with a short week is not challenging for a rookie HC, we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

For the record, my prediction is 5-11 because Browns

DawgSoldier wrote:

soup wrote:

For the record, my prediction is 5-11 because Browns

Watch the catch fire and go 11-5…well because soup.

I’d love to eat that crow. The odds of Stefanski committing to the run with a former QB as an OC are very slim.

Dawg E. Dawg wrote:

soup wrote:

I’d love to eat that crow. The odds of Stefanski committing to the run with a former QB as an OC are very slim.

This comment is absolutely bathed in irony. You’re going to criticize Van Pelt and assume he’ll be pass happy because he was a QB???
And yet, you refuse to give Stefanski any credit for Minnesota’s run heavy offense last year because Gary Kubiak was “the mastermind” behind the whole operation.
One guess what position Gary Kubiak played prior to becoming a coach. Go ahead, I’ll wait.

Kubiak played QB behind Elway. I’m aware.

Minnesota playoffs. 14-10 at halftime SF lead. Total handoffs for the game – 10. 3 in half 2.

We will be a pass happy team like all dumb Cleveland coaches

Dawg E. Dawg wrote:

Minnesota vs. Falcons
32 rushes against 10 pass attempts
We will run the ball more than any team in nfl history.
See, I can cherry pick stats and extrapolate them to make ridiculous conclusions too.

I’ll believe it when it happens. U til then I expect 5-11 at best. I’d rather be surprised than disappointed like last year