What if the Browns finish 11-5?

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  • #20173
    soup
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    If Miami goes 11-5
    If Baltimore goes 11-5
    If Tenn goes 11-5
    If Indy goes 11-5

    Browns at 11-5 are out of the playoffs. That Baltimore loss could prove deadly. Now the only way we get in without help is at 12-4.

    So must win the next 3, otherwise our destiny depends on other teams.

    Freedom!!!

    #20177
    Dawg E. Dawg
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    As usual, you’re absolutely wrong. In that scenario:

    The Titans win the AFC south.
    The Dolphins win the 5th seed via tiebreakers
    The Ravens win the 6th seed via tiebreaker with the Colts.
    The Browns win the 7th seed via head to head tiebreaker over the Colts.

    The only way the above keeps the Browns o it of the playoffs is if the Colts go 12-4 and win the division. The Titans would then win the 3-way tiebreaker over the Ravens and Browns, and we’d be out.

    But it’s all irrelevant, because you’re worst case scenario is not going to happen, just like I told you we weren’t “in a bad way with the Raiders.”

    #20178
    soup
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    Nope, I’m 100% correct. Once it hits a 3 team tie breaker it’s head to head to head kind of thing. It’s bizarre as hell and until Twitter this afternoon I thought the exact thing as you, however, with 3+ teams at 11-5 they’ve all essentially beat each other (We beat Tenn, but Tenn beat Balt who beat us) it’s really bizarre.

    In a two team scenario, if Balt is removed from the equation we have the upper hand. If Balt goes 11-5 as well it goes haywire due to division/conference.

    Freedom!!!

    #20181
    Dawg E. Dawg
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    So, you can go check the espn playoff machine if you don’t believe me. If the Browns , Titans, Colts, Ravens, and Dolphins all finish 11-5:

    Titans win AFC via better division record than Colts. Colts, Browns, Ravens, and Dolphins are left for the 3 wildcard spots.

    Wildcard Tiebreaker #1:
    In three or more team tie, first only the best team from each division is considered. Browns are eliminated because of head-to-head lost to Ravens. From the Ravens, Colts, and Dolphins, Dolphins are awarded the 5th seed because they would be 8-4 in conference games (Ravens and Colts would both be 7-5)

    Wildcard Tiebreaker #2 (Browns, Ravens, Colts)
    The formula resets each Tim’s, but again, only best team from each division is considered, Browns eliminated. Ravens have the head to head win over the Colts, and are awarded the 6th seed.

    Wildcard Tiebreaker #3 (Browns, Colts)
    Browns have the head to head win over the Colts and are awarded the 7th seed.

    Like I said, I confirmed this using the espn playoff machine. This changes if the Colts go 12-4 instead of 11-5. In that case, the Titans, at 11-5, would win the wildcard #2 tiebreaker via their head to head win over the Ravens, and the Ravens would win the wildcard #3 tiebreaker over us.

    #20182
    soup
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    That’s weird, because, as I said, I was in your thought mode. When I went to NYT I put in only those teams, our prospects dropped from 99% to 76%. I’m assuming there’s weird scenarios from other teams that have something to do with it

    Freedom!!!

    #20184
    soup
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    Tonight is a must win to keep pace. Houston got my hopes up and fumbled going in to tie with 20 seconds left

    Freedom!!!

    #20185
    BrownsFan4Life
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    On the bright side, the Browns won’t be playing a winless Jets team next week since they Beat the 9-4 Rams.

    #20189
    MDP Sack Attack
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    I’m getting some serious “trap game/upset” vibes from tonight’s game. Freddie was fantastic when his only responsibility was calling (someone else’s) plays. He really, really wants to beat us. Our secondary blows, which kinda hurts our advantage of going up against Colt.

    We have to pound the rock tonight. And get after the quarterback.

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