Which QB should start week 4 vs the Chargers

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  • #2189
    Ice
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    Who should start at QB for week 4 against the Chargers?

    • McCown (50%, 5 Votes)
    • Manziel (50%, 5 Votes)

    Total Voters: 10

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    Sound off here. Should the Browns stick with McCown or move on to Manziel?

    #2191
    syd
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    i voted mccown but if he shits the bed again i would yank him at the half

    #2196
    mike barnes
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    I’m no fan of jff but we’ve got to know beyond a shadow of a doubt wheither or not he’s the guy going foreward. today I saw a qb that in my opinion was a better choice in last years draft show us what a good young signal caller can do.

    #2197
    mike barnes
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    seeing how Carr and Bridgewater are playing at this stage in their carriers and how far Johnny football is from being at that level only makes me think of the money the team wasted on the research they paid for that said Bridgewater should have been the guy, either way Johnny needs to play so we know what do do next April, oh and drafting a wide receiver that’s taller than 5 foot 9 might be a good idea too, just saying.

    #2200
    Ice
    Keymaster

    I’m no fan of jff but we’ve got to know beyond a shadow of a doubt wheither or not he’s the guy going foreward. today I saw a qb that in my opinion was a better choice in last years draft show us what a good young signal caller can do.

    Clearly Carr is better than JFF. As for knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt, our coaches watch JFF and McCown all week long and there is no question in their mind who the starter of the team should be. They would have started a concussed McCown last week over Manziel if the league had let them. If Manziel can’t beat McCown, can’t even make it a close competition in the coaches eyes then I think that’s all we need to know about him.

    #2203
    MDP Sack Attack
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    I’m still of the same mindset I was going into the season: there’s literally no point in starting McCown. This is not a playoff team. We need to see if Johnny can hack it in this league, because our priorities this offseason depend on it. We have way too many holes to fill to leave QB as a “maybe”.

    #2204
    soup
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    You start McCown if you are playing to win. JFF is not worthy of being on an NFL roster. For those will say “but we won last week” Here’s a stat for you. Through the first 3 weeks teams that allow 14 or less points in a game are 19-1.

    Last week Browns were 4-11 on 3rd down – 33% – with 24 minutes TOP
    This week Browns were 8-16 on 3rd down – 50% with 27 minutes TOP

    Manziel on the year is 8-16 on 3rd/4th down
    McCown on the year is 13-16 on 3rd/4th down.

    Freedom!!!

    #2208
    Ice
    Keymaster

    I hate it when @soup agrees with me. 😉

    #2210
    the dude
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    I’m still of the same mindset I was going into the season: there’s literally no point in starting McCown. This is not a playoff team. We need to see if Johnny can hack it in this league, because our priorities this offseason depend on it. We have way too many holes to fill to leave QB as a “maybe”.

    That is exactly it – I don’t even get the McCown signing. Its a complete joke.

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #2214
    MDP Sack Attack
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    You start McCown if you are playing to win.

    So start Manziel? We have the league’s 27th ranked defense, worst run defense, and we haven’t even played a good offense yet. Add in one of the worst rushing attacks in the league, and what about this team says “play to win”?

    At least our uniforms are ugly this year.

    #2215
    akron pros1920
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    read in the plain dealer web site that there is some dissension on the offense (at least 3 players) who told the reporter they feel more confident with JFF.

    that is all we need this early with all the other problems.

    i have been around since the Frank Ryan vs Jim Ninowski vs Milt Plum debates…but do not remember teammates coming out favoring one over another

    World Champion 1920 Akron Pros still undefeated!

    #2217
    soup
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    I bet those 3 players don’t get any playing time. 53% completion compared to 57%. 8-16 completion on 3rd/4th down compared to 13-16 on 3rd/4th down.

    Doubting anyone legit is more comfortable with the inaccurate guy that can’t read a defense, leaves the pocket too early and rarely goes through any progressions on routes.

    Freedom!!!

    #2220
    the dude
    Participant

    You start McCown if you are playing to win.

    So start Manziel? We have the league’s 27th ranked defense, worst run defense, and we haven’t even played a good offense yet. Add in one of the worst rushing attacks in the league, and what about this team says “play to win”?
    At least our uniforms are ugly this year.

    We really should be happy we won a game this year. I cannot see us winning another one until we play San Fran.

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #2229
    DaytonDawg
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    McCown has lost his last 8 starts. Is that playing to win?

    #2232
    akron pros1920
    Participant

    McCown has lost his last 8 starts. Is that playing to win?

    ……………only in the bizzaro universe

    World Champion 1920 Akron Pros still undefeated!

    #2257
    soup
    Participant

    Johnny Fumbles vs. Tennessee:

    8-15 – 53% completion
    4-11 on 3rd down (33%)
    4 real 3 and outs (real meaning not kneeling 3 times before half/3 straight runs up the gut to run out the clock, etc.)
    24 minute TOP

    Browns defense/ST vs. Tennessee:

    7 sacks
    3 takeaways
    14 points allowed (through 3 weeks teams who allow 14 or less points in a game are 19-1)
    Punt return for a TD

    Old Man McCown vs Raiders:

    57% completion
    8-16 on 3rd down (50%)
    2 real 3 and outs (real meaning not kneeling 3 times before half/3 straight runs up the gut to run out the clock, etc.)
    27 minute TOP

    Browns defense/ST vs. Tennessee:

    0 sacks
    1 takeaways
    27 points allowed
    Muffed punt at the 50 with under 3 minutes left in the game down by 7
    Roughing the punter inside the Browns 10 after a 3 an out – ensuing drive=TD
    156 (?) yds rushing
    ROOKIE Amari Cooper – 134 yards receiving

    How is Manziel responsible for the defensive and ST performance in game 1 and how is McCoen responsible for their lack of performance in game 2?

    Freedom!!!

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