Or…….. (as the article mentions)

New England drafted Garoppolo with an eye on the future, and with Garoppolo’s free agency looming, is now nearing a difficult spot with the supposed heir apparent. The Patriots could reach 2018 with Garoppolo not under contract and fielding lucrative offers from other franchises with plenty of salary-cap space (Cleveland being one of them), risking an empty-handed divorce much like Denver saw Brock Osweiler walk away.

That’s the “get something for him while can instead of being left with nothing at all later” line of thinking. Sure, Brady is fighting the calendar, but at the same time he said he plans on playing into his 40’s. If the Pats are still finding themselves in title games with Brady at the helm, are they going to bench him? Do you think Garapalo wants to sit and wait another 2,3, maybe even 4 more years waiting for Brady to hang them up to be able to play or start? He’ll be pushing 30 himself by that point.

I totally disagree that just because New England would be willing to part with him means that they don’t believe he’s worthy of being a starter. I also disagree that if they believe he is they won’t trade him. The situation plays more into the decision than his abilities (or lack thereof) or how he’s viewed by the Pats organization I believe. After next season he goes FA. If Brady has them in the AFC Championship or Superbowl again next year, are the Pats going to tell him it’s time to hang them up? Lmao, get real. I’m willing to bet that it would be a “guarantee that I start or I’m walking” situation with Jimmy G. Since the Pats wouldn’t be willing to do that, um, he gone. And they get dick.

Knowing this, getting something in return for him is a prudent move. And let’s not forget, they still have Brisset, so it’s not like the Pats would be totally twisting in the wind in the department of finding an eventual successor to Brady.

Further, getting Garapolo when he’s one year away from FA is beneficial to the Browns. In that, you bring him in and start him for ’17. If he works out after say, 8, 9, 10 games, and his play has you believing in him, you sign him to a new contract. Or you can tag him and spend another season hammering out a deal. If he sucks, yeah you’re out the draft pick(s) that you sent, but you’re not on the hook for a huge contract like Houston is with Osweiler. They’re married to him like it or not. If they dump him, it wrecks their cap for years. The Browns can completely avoid that situation with Garapolo.

It really all depends on what the Browns are willing to risk draft pick-wise. If it’s a 1st rounder, #1, forget it, that price is too high. But if it’s say a 2nd next year and a 4th the year after, or something along those lines…..I say you do it. If he sucks up the joint, you’re not losing franchise-wrecking draft picks. If he steps in and lights it up, it’s an absolute fleecing.

Saying that if New England is willing to part with him they don’t believe he can be a solid starter is terribly short-sighted in my opinion. They’re in the Superbowl with a 39-year-old QB that has stated he has no intentions of stopping any time soon that is going to force their hand far more than any belief they have in what Jimmy can do or become.

I think the Browns would be wise to take advantage of that situation, and exploit it.

Oh hell no. A first and a 2nd?

I can’t imagine anyone would even stay on the phone after that request. Just a click and someone in New England going “hello? Hello?”

You have to look at this again situationally. The Browns have all of the leverage. New England is the one that is in danger of losing a valued player and getting nothing in return. They’re in no position to make demands. The Browns can take the stance of “take what we’re offering now or get nothing next year, you decide”.

A 1st and a 2nd is absurd. My aforementioned proposal of a 2nd and a 4th however, I’d give that one a good look. Maybe even a 3rd and a 5th. Something along those lines.

Again, if the Browns do indeed have an interest in Jimmy G, they hold all of the cards in this situation. Take whatever the Browns are offering now, or watch him walk away next year and get nothing.

McCarron would be okay with me. He has more experience than the future bust of Jimmy G. He knows Hues system. He’s had success in Hues system. Jimmy is another Cassell. Even Brissett won a game for them.

I’d feel comfortable with McCarron on the team, especially due to the familiarity with Hues system. I don’t know if he’s a starter though. He fell to the 5th round for a reason. He’s average at best. I don’t think that he would separate himself from Cody Kessler, and since we already have Kessler, I kind of don’t see the point. He’s got at-best an average arm.

As for Jimmy G, the trepidation is valid. New Englands backups do seem to always generate over-inflated buzz, only to later fizzle. That said, I disagree with you about him. When he was coming out of college, there was a lot of buzz about him. His going to a small school like Eastern Illinois hurt his draft stock a bit. If he was coming out from a Major conference school I think he would have been a top ten pick. I think he can flourish in the starters role.

Let me ask you this Ice. Throw out all of the how’s and why’s, details and particulars. Answer one simple question.

If you woke up tomorrow morning and you found out the Browns had acquired Jimmy Garappolo, would you be excited?

Again, leave out all the jazz. You wake up tomorrow and Jimmy G is on our roster, how do you feel about it?

Because we are the Browns, and the shit never seems to work, or we don’t get the guy we wanted…we get the OTHER guy.

Man if this isn’t our mantra I don’t know what is.

A team who’s best record for a QB since ’99 is 10-6 (Brian Hoyer), yet is the first Browns QB to throw 30 incompletions in a row.

When did Hoyer throw 30 incompletions in a row?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000783808/article/matt-ryan-wishes-he-avoided-sack-on-key-late-play

Read the article, but watch the interview even more.

Watch it.

Watch it closely, and look at the look on Matt Ryan’s face. Look at.

Now, Go read that article you put up about Brian Hoyers 30 incompletions in a game, and read what he said about it.

I’ll highlight the most important part for you:

“That’s just the way I play,” Hoyer said. “I don’t want to put that (sack) on my offensive linemen. If a sack is a negative play, a throwaway I don’t see as a negative play. Maybe your completion percentage won’t be as great, but no game was ever lost on a throwaway.”

I’m gonna let that sit here for a minute. Let it ferment and resonate.

Because we ran that guy the fuck out of town.

http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/21422/browns-2017-qb-options-colin-kaepernick-jimmy-garoppolo-tyrod-taylor-mike-glennon-and-deshaun-watson

Holy shit, a voice of fellow reason ^^^^^^^^