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I have a unique perspective on Jameis Winston; being an FSU alum and fan I’ve watched every game he’s played. What I can tell you is that if I were the GM of an NFL team that needed a QB, I wouldn’t even consider him in the 1st round. He’s a very good college QB but he needs major work to be a very good NFL QB. His problems on the field aren’t limited to what Wunkle wrote above; even on the field this guy is a head case. If he gets rattled in a game, he’s done. He almost got benched during his last game with FSU because he couldn’t control himself. Smart defenders can get in his head and cause him to get so frustrated that he makes mistakes and quits. Also he seemed completely disconnected in the first half of many games. He looked like he didn’t care whether they won or lost until the 2nd half. He’s not in great physical shape. You probably won’t see a picture of him with his shirt off at the combine because it’s not pretty. Also while he has a good arm, I’d say it’s just average for an NFL QB. Stronger than any QB on our roster for sure, but compared across NFL rosters he’s not a standout.
Off the field problems are even worse than what Wunkle stated. Winston shows a complete lack of intelligence, maturity, and morals. At one point he stood up on a table in the middle of the crowded FSU union right in the middle of campus and yelled at the top of his lungs “F___ HER RIGHT IN THE P____!” Why? Someone dared him to do it. While it was never proven, I’m positive that he’s thrown parts of games and shaved points to help his friends win money. He will require full time baby sitting once he gets in the NFL just to keep himself out of trouble.
To sum up even as an FSU fan I have never been a fan of Winston. Like EJ Manuel before him he’s a very good college QB on a fantastic college team.
In all candidness, Ice, I could’ve written and entire expose’ on Winston’s off-the-field exploits that would’ve taken up as much space as this article. I was all to well aware of them. However, I thought it would’ve been counterproductive to do so. I thought our viewers and fellow members would benefit significantly more by my taking the path I chose. As for me, I wouldn’t touch Winston with a ten foot pole. However, there’s at least one team drafting in the top ten that will take him thinking, “We can keep him on the strait and narrow”. I suspect and fear that team will be miserably mistaken.
Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
Well said Wunkle. We won’t be getting him anyway so who cares. Unfortunately that’s what I said about Manziel….
So Wunkle, every year some unheard of QB jumps from not being talked about at all to being talked about as a 1st rounder. If you had to guess, who is it going to be this year?
To answer your question . . . I’m not so sure that he exists this year. By all accounts, Brett Hundley seems to be the third guy in the QB pecking order because he tics a lot of the boxes from a physical standpoint.
There IS one kid that I didn’t profile in my article . . .
JERRY LOVELOCKE – FIFTH YEAR SENIOR – PRAIRIE VIEW A&M
6′-4″ / 248 LBS. / 34 1/2″ ARMS / 10 1/2″ HANDSPrototypical and athletic body type, took snaps from under center and in shotgun formation. Strong arm to make all the throws. Ability to read defenses (both pre-snap and going through progressions) unknown. In limited footage, showed inconsistent accuracy in spite of statistics. Don’t know how consistently he can throw a receiver open or get the ball into a narrow window. Don’t know how many of those completions over four seasons were bubble screens.
PASSING STATISTICS
2011: 51.4% – 10 TD – 4 INT
2012: 65.3% – 5 TD – 4 INT
2013: 66.4% – 23 TD – 9 INT
2014: 57.6% – 16 TD – 9 INT
CAREER: 61.1% – 54 TD – 26 INTCBS currently lists him as a 7th round to URFA prospect. You make your own conclusions.
Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
I believe Mariota has put on about 10 more pounds of wait – muscle while Winston has lost as much – they are almost identical at weigh ins at combine.
While I don’t want Mariota in the first round, I think he may be a good second round pick. He shows nothing but a positive attitude and seems to really want to succeed and work hard.
I like personally Sean Mannion just based on his size and his potential. He may be the best gem in the qb pack.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
There’s only one problem with that thought, Dude . . . Mariota’s probably not getting out of the top ten because of the dearth of talent at QB in this year’s draft.
Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
There’s only one problem with that thought, Dude . . . Mariota’s probably not getting out of the top ten because of the dearth of talent at QB in this year’s draft.
You and I will have to disagree there Wunkle. As someone with a minor in economics I can tell you that lack of supply does not increase demand. Back in 2013 there was only one QB taken in the first round (EJ Manuel, 16th overall) even though many teams were desperate at QB. Pre-draft hype told Geno Smith that he’d be a top 5 pick because there was such a need at QB but when it came time for teams to turn their cards in they made the smart pick and Geno fell into the 2nd round.
I’ll say this about Mariota… he’s got everything you want in a QB except experience. He’s big, lightning fast, has all the brains, guts, and leadership you want in a QB, but the dude doesn’t know how to huddle or take a 5 step drop. Where do you draft someone like that? How do you try to project his skills? I don’t know. He may very well go top 10 and if he ends up on our team I’ll be a big fan of his, but he also may drop down because NFL teams haven’t seen him play NFL football.
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