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  • #9442
    soup
    Participant

    Out with a migraine. Typical Notre Dame pussy.

    That said. Zero development from last week. The guy we saw today is what I expected when we drafted him.

    Freedom!!!

    #9446
    soup
    Participant

    Trash. Pure trash.

    Freedom!!!

    #9454
    Shooter
    Moderator

    Out with a migraine.

    On the bright side at least you can say he likes to share, because he gave everyone else a migraine too!

    Except the Ravens. He just gave them the football.

    #9462
    the dude
    Participant

    Manning had 27 interceptions in his rookie year. Good thin soup didn’t fire him!

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #9463
    Dawg E. Dawg
    Participant

    Out with a migraine. Typical Notre Dame pussy.
    That said. Zero development from last week. The guy we saw today is what I expected when we drafted him.

    I’ll preface this by saying I didn’t see the game. I listened to the whole thing on the radio, and from the sounds of it, I’m glad I wasn’t able to watch.

    That said, your statement is still ridiculous. Development doesn’t come THAT fast. He’s extremely young, and making just his second start. Let’s give him more than 5 minutes to figure out the NFL. The migraine, meh. It’s not good, but if it’s a one time thing nobody will remember it this time next year. If it becomes a habit, then we can start to worry. But the sky’s not falling just yet.

    #9464
    the dude
    Participant

    Kizer has literally been smoked the last 2 weeks. He probably had a concussion last week and they are keeping it on down low.

    I have no clue why they would put him back in the game though. So weird.

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #9465
    soup
    Participant

    Out with a migraine. Typical Notre Dame pussy.
    That said. Zero development from last week. The guy we saw today is what I expected when we drafted him.

    I’ll preface this by saying I didn’t see the game. I listened to the whole thing on the radio, and from the sounds of it, I’m glad I wasn’t able to watch.
    That said, your statement is still ridiculous. Development doesn’t come THAT fast. He’s extremely young, and making just his second start. Let’s give him more than 5 minutes to figure out the NFL. The migraine, meh. It’s not good, but if it’s a one time thing nobody will remember it this time next year. If it becomes a habit, then we can start to worry. But the sky’s not falling just yet.

    When you’re responsible for 6 of 7 sacks you take week 1, then week two hold the ball longer than week 1 – that’s unacceptable. That was the improvement I expected.bjust release it quicker even if you dink and dunk a few times to what in the habit. But he actually held it LONGER.

    I wasn’t looking for all pro. I was looking for progress. In one game he went backwards.

    Freedom!!!

    #9466
    the dude
    Participant

    So in soups one thread Kizer is worst ever and holds on to ball too long.

    Then in next thread Britt and coleman are butter fingers and trash.

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #9473
    DawgPoundDude
    Participant

    Man, you all should know there’s no gray area with Soup…it’s either black or it’s white.

    That said, when you expect a rookie QB to pass the ball 764 times against a defense that basically bitchslapped a veteran QB the week before the same way, it goes beyond the QB. Fact is, he had no business throwing that much. And if you were expecting a mistake-free rookie playing what could likely be the best defense we play all year and pass the ball every damn play…

    Run the fucking football. Especially when it’s not working through the air. It’s almost as if Hue was trying to be sneaky with the run game. Shove the ball down their throats! That’s the type of team we’re supposedly trying to build, right?

    #9475
    soup
    Participant

    Man, you all should know there’s no gray area with Soup…it’s either black or it’s white.
    That said, when you expect a rookie QB to pass the ball 764 times against a defense that basically bitchslapped a veteran QB the week before the same way, it goes beyond the QB. Fact is, he had no business throwing that much. And if you were expecting a mistake-free rookie playing what could likely be the best defense we play all year and pass the ball every damn play…
    Run the fucking football. Especially when it’s not working through the air. It’s almost as if Hue was trying to be sneaky with the run game. Shove the ball down their throats! That’s the type of team we’re supposedly trying to build, right?

    I agree on running (obviously). Again – I did NOT say mistake free. I said show me improvement – his biggest issue is holding the ball too long. He didn’t even feign correcting that and he held it longer. The guy from yesterday is exactly why I was so mad we used such a high pick on him. It’s what I expect each week.

    Freedom!!!

    #9476
    the dude
    Participant

    He is playing against probably the best 2 defenses in the NFL. I am not sure what one could level as improvement from game 1 to game 2 with our shitty wr core.

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #9477
    DawgPoundDude
    Participant

    I will say this: a migraine (a true migraine, not that bullshit the wife pulls when you’re getting frisky) is one of the worst conditions a human can go through.

    I knew a guy who would get them so badly that he had the bathroom in the middle of his home set up with no lighting and away from as sound as much as possible, because if any of that reached him, the unspeakable pain was intensified tenfold. He would literally leave knuckle marks punching the door frame, and broke his hand several times to distract the pain from his head. Oh, and he was a steelworker, so there’s really no questioning his toughness.

    To call Kizer a pussy because he had a migraine is a tad unfair unless you really know what he goes through…yeah?

    #9479
    Ice
    Keymaster

    Yeah, what DPD said. When I get a migraine my day is DONE. Straight to bed, even put blinders over my eyes because the amount of light that my eyelids let in when shut is painful. Even a very mild one that doesn’t completely incapacitate me puts a fog over my mind making me slow to react and think. No one can play football in those conditions. I’m amazed he came back at all. I guarantee you he was still feeling the effects when he came back and that it affected his play because they don’t go away in 30 minutes no matter what medicine you take.

    #9480
    Dawg E. Dawg
    Participant

    He punted himself into a corner with this. Don’t know if you guys saw, but he’s said he typically gets 1-2 a year, and they’re typically 5-6 months apart.

    Not saying migraines are completely predictable, but with him coming out and saying that, it’ll be a real bad look if it happens again. Though, I doubt that it does.

    #9481
    the dude
    Participant

    Neither one of your wives have pulled that on me before… Just sayin

    People see stars or barely can sit up when they have one. Soup can call him as big of a pussy as he wants as he sits behind his desk 5’8 128lbs. I eat pussies like soup for dinner.

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #9482
    Dawg E. Dawg
    Participant

    Personally, I’m more worried about why it looks like we’re playing against Tony Gonzalez every week than a less than perfect outing from a rookie QB.

    #9484
    soup
    Participant

    There’s medicine he could take prior to a game to prevent it. My friend takes it.

    Migraine triggers include stress. Which he’s under n the NFL.

    Freedom!!!

    #9485
    DawgPoundDude
    Participant

    There’s medicine he could take prior to a game to prevent it. My friend takes it.
    Migraine triggers include stress. Which he’s under n the NFL.

    Absolutely. But the point is, he had one, and it’s not something you’re going to play through, period. And maybe he’ll be more cautious in the future, or maybe the medicine didn’t work this time.

    And fuck you Dawson. I’m the reason for your wife’s “headaches”. Just sayin’. ?

    #9487
    soup
    Participant

    There’s medicine he could take prior to a game to prevent it. My friend takes it.
    Migraine triggers include stress. Which he’s under n the NFL.

    Absolutely. But the point is, he had one, and it’s not something you’re going to play through, period. And maybe he’ll be more cautious in the future, or maybe the medicine didn’t work this time.
    And fuck you Dawson. I’m the reason for your wife’s “headaches”. Just sayin’. ?

    The point is he knew he’s prone to them.he can take the medicine 16 times a year. He didn’t. Doesn’t matter anyway he’s shown us he’s the same garbage from college. Indy will win.

    Freedom!!!

    #9488
    Shooter
    Moderator

    As far as the migraine thing goes, does anyone remember Terrel Davis missing a good chunk of the Broncos Superbowl because of one? I do.

    I don’t recall anyone calling him a pussy for that. And he’s a Hall of Famer, so……

    #9489
    Shooter
    Moderator

    As far as the migraine thing goes, does anyone remember Terrel Davis missing a good chunk of the Broncos Superbowl because of one? I do.

    I don’t recall anyone calling him a pussy for that. And he’s a Hall of Famer, so……

    #9490
    soup
    Participant

    You mean a concussion before concussion protocol was implemented?

    Freedom!!!

    #9491
    Ice
    Keymaster

    There’s medicine he could take prior to a game to prevent it. My friend takes it.
    Migraine triggers include stress. Which he’s under n the NFL.

    I’m glad your friend found a medicine that prevents his migraines. Most of us who have suffered from them have not. The best most of us can do is try to recognize the symptoms as soon as they start and do whatever seems to work best for us. If there were a magical migraine prevention pill I’d be thrilled.

    #9492
    soup
    Participant

    There’s medicine he could take prior to a game to prevent it. My friend takes it.
    Migraine triggers include stress. Which he’s under n the NFL.

    I’m glad your friend found a medicine that prevents his migraines. Most of us who have suffered from them have not. The best most of us can do is try to recognize the symptoms as soon as they start and do whatever seems to work best for us. If there were a magical migraine prevention pill I’d be thrilled.

    Terrell Davis took it before games too. He “forgot” and took a knee to the head to trigger it.

    Freedom!!!

    #9493
    soup
    Participant
    #9495
    the dude
    Participant

    Lol soup migraine expert now…. Just like browns head coach expert and gm too… Why not rofl

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #9499
    Ice
    Keymaster

    Soup you should totally send that article to the team doctor. You’ve cured migraines!

    #9500
    Shooter
    Moderator

    You mean a concussion before concussion protocol was implemented?

    No, I was talking about migraines.

    I’ve never suffered from a migraine before, but I’ve had a former girlfriend and a few friends that I’ve known over the years that have and I know and have seen the effects of them and how utterly debilitating they are to the sufferers.

    That said, I know dick about migraines. By your statements it’s quite easy to deduce that you now dick about migraines too. The difference between the two of us is 1) I readily and freely admit my lack of knowledge on the subject while you are writing a comical doctoral thesis on the subject that you are actually taking seriously. And 2) I don’t mock people who suffer from things simply because I do not, and therefore feel it’s made up, while you clearly do. What you’re doing is the equivalent of looking at someone with epilepsy while they’re having a seizure and saying “knock off that shaking and drooling you pussy, there’s fucking medicine you can take to prevent that”.

    I’d like to point out that both of those things make you look like a gigantic, ignorant douchebag.

    #9502
    soup
    Participant

    Soup you should totally send that article to the team doctor. You’ve cured migraines!

    Instead of being an ass, try it. Learn about her and know that the Lakers use her nutrition recommendations. I believe she was their team doctor. I started following a lot of her stuff and feel better than I have in years.

    Instead of staying ignorant, start researching what goes in your body and the effects it has. Read her book Deep Nutrition then try it. Give it a month, you’ll b shocked.

    Freedom!!!

    #9503
    soup
    Participant

    You mean a concussion before concussion protocol was implemented?

    No, I was talking about migraines.
    I’ve never suffered from a migraine before, but I’ve had a former girlfriend and a few friends that I’ve known over the years that have and I know and have seen the effects of them and how utterly debilitating they are to the sufferers.
    That said, I know dick about migraines. By your statements it’s quite easy to deduce that you now dick about migraines too. The difference between the two of us is 1) I readily and freely admit my lack of knowledge on the subject while you are writing a comical doctoral thesis on the subject that you are actually taking seriously. And 2) I don’t mock people who suffer from things simply because I do not, and therefore feel it’s made up, while you clearly do. What you’re doing is the equivalent of looking at someone with epilepsy while they’re having a seizure and saying “knock off that shaking and drooling you pussy, there’s fucking medicine you can take to prevent that”.
    I’d like to point out that both of those things make you look like a gigantic, ignorant douchebag.

    Really? That’s priceless! How about reading the testimonials about her here. And in your response why don’t you educate everyone who those testimonials are from and WHAT PROFESSIONAL SPORTS TEAM THEY PLAY FOR.

    http://drcate.com/about-drcatecom/

    If you find advice from the properly researched and educated people, you may want to try it out.

    Freedom!!!

    #9504
    Ice
    Keymaster

    Instead of being an ass, try it. Learn about her and know that the Lakers use her nutrition recommendations. I believe she was their team doctor. I started following a lot of her stuff and feel better than I have in years.
    Instead of staying ignorant, start researching what goes in your body and the effects it has. Read her book Deep Nutrition then try it. Give it a month, you’ll b shocked.

    She is basically a nutritionist. I have no doubt about the value of nutrition in sports, but her ideas about migraines have not been through studies or tests and are not peer reviewed. They are just her opinions on the subject.

    What you should really be saying is “I have a friend who had migraines and found a pill that prevents them, so I just assumed it would work on anyone. That’s why I was frustrated that Kizer would leave the game with a migraine. I thought he forgot or refused to take a simple pill. I was wrong, now I realize there is no magic migraine medicine that works on everyone so I retract my statement about Kizer being a pussy.”

    #9505
    soup
    Participant

    No, she’s a doctor that did a ton of studying on nutrition after she came to the realization as a PCP that doctors nutrition courses are all but non existent and full of shit.

    And that pill – Terrell Davis took it before games too. He supposedly forgot before the super bowl then took a knee to the head which triggered it. (Imagine that, a knee to the head causing your head to hurt). So the pills exist.

    As for the doctor I’ve posted here, go ahead and ignore it that’s fine. But know that you choose what you eat. I advise you to learn about what you are putting in your body. Read ingredients. Also research online about vegetable oil, canola oil, etc and the effects they have on you. I guarantee you if you cut way back on carbs/refined sugars and cut out vegetable oils completely (all kinds) and switched only to healthy oils in a month you will feel better than you have in years.

    I’ve done it. The effects are amazing. And if you read the testimonials you’ll see raves from guys like Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard.

    Feel free to eat things as is. Feel free to keep getting migraines. OR try something different to prevent them.

    Freedom!!!

    #9506
    Shooter
    Moderator

    Also research online about vegetable oil, canola oil, etc and the effects they have on you. I guarantee you if you cut way back on carbs/refined sugars and cut out vegetable oils completely (all kinds) and switched only to healthy oils in a month you will feel better than you have in years.

    I can’t believe that Soup has discovered the cure for migraines on a Cleveland Browns football message board. Crazy!

    It is now your duty sir to go forward and spread this information with the rest of the known world. As you acquire your vast fortune and immense wealth at such a discovery, my only request is that you not forget the little people and maybe kick in a few bucks to help us run and maintain the website.

    Humbly yours,
    All of humanity

    #9507
    soup
    Participant

    Also research online about vegetable oil, canola oil, etc and the effects they have on you. I guarantee you if you cut way back on carbs/refined sugars and cut out vegetable oils completely (all kinds) and switched only to healthy oils in a month you will feel better than you have in years.

    I can’t believe that Soup has discovered the cure for migraines on a Cleveland Browns football message board. Crazy!
    It is now your duty sir to go forward and spread this information with the rest of the known world. As you acquire your vast fortune and immense wealth at such a discovery, my only request is that you not forget the little people and maybe kick in a few bucks to help us run and maintain the website.
    Humbly yours,
    All of humanity

    Cool. Keep killing your immune system and brain.

    Freedom!!!

    #9508
    Shooter
    Moderator

    Cool. Keep killing your immune system and brain.

    I don’t get migraines.

    As I mentioned previously.

    So, I don’t need a cure for one. My brain and immune system are just fine.

    #9509
    Ice
    Keymaster

    I’m glad you found a diet that works for you Soup. Seriously.

    No diet has been proven to cure migraines. You began this thread by calling him a pussy for not playing through a migraine. It was an ignorant statement. Then you said he should have just taken a pill before the game. That’s another ignorant statement. Now you are trying to convince us to eat healthy, which is very nice of you. Lets try to get back to talking football.

    #9510
    Ice
    Keymaster

    Personally, I’m more worried about why it looks like we’re playing against Tony Gonzalez every week than a less than perfect outing from a rookie QB.

    Get out of here with your football analysis, this is a forum on migraines!

    #9512
    Shooter
    Moderator

    You began this thread by calling him a pussy for not playing through a migraine. It was an ignorant statement. Then you said he should have just taken a pill before the game. That’s another ignorant statement.

    Oh don’t do that.

    Kizer is a pussy because he doesn’t get enough Canola oil in his diet and as such suffers from migraines, which there is a pill for to prevent anyway.

    Keep it on the level Ice, stop bringing reality down the rabbit hole.

    #9513
    Ice
    Keymaster

    #9514
    soup
    Participant

    Big pharma has you doggies trained beautifully.

    A headache, including migraine, consists of constricted blood vessels in the brain (call it inflammation in the blood vessels). When people take an Aleve it relaxes them and eases inflammation.

    Canola oil
    Vegetable oil
    Soy oil
    Cottonseed oil
    Sunflower oil
    Corn oil
    Grapeseed oil
    Safflower oil
    Non butter spread like margarine

    Excess sugar
    Excess flour/bread especially white (carbs are treated like sugar in your body)

    All CAUSE inflammation. Eliminate those foods and greatly reduce sugar and inflammation reduces in your body making it less likely to get things like migraines and more likely for your body to heal. Why? Because in the case of the oils your immune system attacks them. Those oils also lower brain function. They are inhibitors and basically attack your brain.

    Why? Because the processing of them adds a 3rd chemical to it which turns into a trans fat which is ultra deadly. This happens when heated. So when Canola oil says “no trans fat” it’s a half truth. As soon as it’s heated it turns into trans fat. That’s what actually clogs arteries.

    Science can be your friend. If you change what you put in your body you eliminate needing big pharma (which can destroy your body).

    That’s a small crash course for you in the way the body works with food.

    Feel free to look up Tom Brady diet. There was a big article on it a few days ago.

    Freedom!!!

    #9515
    Dawg E. Dawg
    Participant

    Soup, 2 things: 1.) there are multiple things that can cause headaches beyond just diet. Genetics, exercise level, stress, on and on. medicine is not black and white, there is no cure all for everybody.

    2.). WTF does any of this have to do with Deshone Kizer? Do you know what his diet his? I don’t. He could be a vegan or vegetarian or or could eat 3 steaks a day or he could be whatever those people are that only eat what cavemen ate. I don’t know and I don’t care. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH FOOTBALL.

    If your argument is that Kizer is a pussy because he didn’t take his magic pill and he ate canola oil on his eggs Sunday morning (both of which you have 0 knowledge of whether or not they occurred) then you’ve reached a new level of ridiculous. And I’m talking a level that scientist previously thought unreachable. I mean, this is so far out there it would blow Neil Degrase Tysons mind.

    #9516
    soup
    Participant

    Genetics can be changed through diet by “Awakening” cells in your body that are “asleep.” Genetics can be changed through proper diet.

    The proper diet also alleviates stress and changes moods.

    Have fun being a big pharma lapdog.

    He’s a pussy. He left a game for a migraine. Quite frankly, I think it was a lie. It wasn’t a migraine at all. There was something deeper. His migraine went away awfully fast. Too fast to be one.

    Freedom!!!

    #9517
    Dawg E. Dawg
    Participant

    Genetics can be changed through diet by “Awakening” cells in your body that are “asleep.” Genetics can be changed through proper diet.

    You’re fucking impossible. You can’t change your genes by eating wheatgrass. Canola oil doesn’t give you migraine genes. I honestly can’t tell if you believe that shit or if your just trolling me on an expert level. You might be the Tom Brady of trolls.

    #9518
    Shooter
    Moderator

    you’ve reached a new level of ridiculous. And I’m talking a level that scientist previously thought unreachable

    It’s fun though isn’t it? We’re witnessing Soup jump the shark.

    You’re fucking impossible. You can’t change your genes by eating wheatgrass.

    I have to be honest, I really never thought that this was something that ever would, or would need to be, said on a football message board.

    I honestly can’t tell if you believe that shit or if your just trolling me on an expert level.

    I entertained that thought briefly as well, but I think it’s pretty clear that he’s serious.

    His migraine went away awfully fast. Too fast to be one.

    As a board certified expert on migraines and skilled dietitian on the prevention and treatment of migraines, you of all people should be very well aware of the fact that migraines vary wildly in time. Sometimes they could last 20 minutes, sometimes it could be 4 hours. They didn’t teach you that in genetic re-modification school?

    #9519
    the dude
    Participant

    Today I miss Tree. I wish I could tell him he isn’t the biggest idiot in the world.

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #9520
    Ice
    Keymaster

    Soups reasons why Kizer is a pussy:
    * Not playing through a migraine
    * Not taking the pill that prevents all migraines
    * He recovered TOO FAST from his migraine

    Also food is bad for you. Have I summed up the thread?

    #9522
    Shooter
    Moderator

    Soups reasons why Kizer is a pussy:
    * Not playing through a migraine
    * Not taking the pill that prevents all migraines
    * He recovered TOO FAST from his migraine

    Also food is bad for you. Have I summed up the thread?

    You forgot that genetics can be changed through diet.

    That’s an exact quote btw. “Genetics can be changed through diet”.

    What do you suppose I need to eat to be 6′-5″? This whole 5-10 thing has pretty much run it’s course for me and I’d love to finish my life as just a large, physically imposing man. Also, blue eyes. I’d love some blue eyes. These dark brown darlings have melted some hearts over the years, but I’d like some piercing blues to really change my look. What do you think that’d take, maybe more broccoli? Should I start pounding down lean cuts of salmon and tuna to go from brown to blue?

    Also, nearly 20 years together and 3 kids is a testament to my prowess in the adult activities arena, but I’d like to send my wife out on a high note the next 20 or so years by just dropping a meat hog out of my boxers. What sort of herbal/vegetable concoction do you think I need to start swilling daily to Boogie Nights-ize my nether region?

    If I lay off the Red Bull will my hair start growing back?

    I’m so excited about the possibilities of the future with my newfound knowledge. I started off in this world as a little man with sandy brown hair and dark brown eyes, and I’m gonna go out as a blue-eyed giant with a full head of thick black hair and an enormous, dinosaur sized thundercock. I don’t know about you guys but I am pumped as fuck about that.

    I can’t wait to get started.

    #9523
    Dawg E. Dawg
    Participant

    Do you think it’s possible the Browns have had the exact same caterer over the last 18 years, and THATS what’s making them all slow, stone-handed, injury prone bums?!

    We need to tell Jimmy about this!!

    #9524
    DawgPoundDude
    Participant

    Well, what about grasshoppers? They’re good for you, right?

    Though in this case, it looks like it was the cause of the headache…

    …Or how about these birds, feeding that nice man?

    God…this thread is toast. But, highly entertaining. I never in a million years thought I’d see the day Dawson missed Tree…calendar marked.

    #9526
    Shooter
    Moderator

    God…this thread is toast.

    Oh but so, so full of Charlie Sheen level awesomeness.

    #9542
    soup
    Participant

    For those talking about the Ravens defense and how “great” they are, Blake Bortles Mr. Terrible awful bust, has thrown 3 TDs against them. Currently up 30-0.

    Enough excuses.

    Freedom!!!

    #9543
    Shooter
    Moderator

    Enough excuses.

    I agree, stop dodging my question and tell me what I need to eat to change my genetics and be 6-5.

    I know you know dude, tell me.

    #9544
    soup
    Participant

    He’s a close 2nd to Manziel for worst QB we ever drafted. He’s exactly what I thought we got. A pile of shit drafted a minimum 3 rounds early solely due to his size. Inexcusable to draft a guy in the 2nd round that was benched in college for his suckiness. Hogan needs to be starting. Be done with this already. Also, cut Britt tomorrow.

    Freedom!!!

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