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- October 23, 2017 at 10:31 am #9806
the dudeParticipantI have no clue what your man love is for Love Smith. He had a ton of problems with dudes on his team having off the field problems. You just wrote a big long paragraph and when Smith coached the Bears he had guys with tons of off the field issues. You are so confusing.
Also, why did you only point out Kizer? Why is the news only picking on one player when there were multiple other Browns players he was out with? It wasn’t saturday night before the game?
This is ridiculous that anyone is making a deal about this after Johnny Manziel
Hue Jackson is a loser.
October 23, 2017 at 12:06 pm #9807
ShooterModeratorI’d like to know how you come to many of the conclusions/accusations you come to.
Coaches wanted to stay at 12. Front office traded back and took a guy with no NFL position.
1 how do you know this? Were you there? Were you in the room? Do you know anyone who was? And Peppers position is safety. That’s what he was drafted as. Last I checked, safety is an NFL position. I could be wrong on that I’ll have to double check it, but I’m confident that it still is.
As for Hue Jackson. He has lost the team. It’s done. He’s not respected.
You know dick about the locker room.
How do we determine this?
1. Corey Coleman out past curfew this week.
2. Kenny Britt out past curfew this week AND he received zero punishment for it.
Coleman is on IR, Britt is an idiot bum doing whatever the fuck he wants. Neither were going to play and didn’t know that the curfew rules applied to them as a result. Both were punished for the transgression. This incident says absolutely nothing, and I stress NOTHING, about the level of respect Hue Jackson has in the locker room. It’s simply you inventing shit and attempting to pass it off as fact, as is your M.O.
3. Kizer out until 130am partying Saturday morning (Friday night).
Uhhhhh, this speaks to only the commitment and level of maturity to the player. A 21-year-old moron not taking his job seriously and shirking responsibility of his team. Hmmm, sounds familiar.
In no way speaks to the level of respect Hue holds in the locker room. At all. In any way shape or form.
Couple that with 1-22
Okay. So what? Yes, players get frustrated with losing, I get that, ut what else is your point? Do you think a guy like Joe Thomas doesn’t know that this team has no talent? Of course he does. Again, there’s very little Hue can do with this. Sashi has fucked him over and set him up for nothing but failure, has nothing to do with Hue. Any player in the league worth his salt already knows this, and some have even spoken about it (Pacma Jones).
Again, this says absolutely nothing about the respect Hue has in the locker room. It says a ton about your ability to invent shit though. Lemme tell ya, it’s 2nd to none.
Lovie Smith
Jesus fuck all we’re here again? We’re back to Lovie fucking Smith again with you? Are you SERIOUS bro? Let it fucking go.
October 23, 2017 at 1:00 pm #9811
soupParticipantDon’t recall his name. The reporter in the draft room on draft day stated:
1. Coaches had to fight to get Garrett. Front office wanted Trubitsky
2. Hue Jackson wanted Hooker at 12 and didn’t want to trade back
As for Lovie Smith:
81-63 in Chicago with a Super Bowl appearance with Rex Grossman as his QB. 3 playoff appearances overall.
Year one with Tampa Bay – no QB (McCown and then Glennon) 2-14.
Year 2 – Improved to 6-10 with Jameis Winston as his rookie starter. Then he was let go.
2016 – new coach – 2nd year Winston 9-7 This year? Tampa is 2-4.
Lovie is a vet coach with some success. It’s either that or another college bust or unknown bum.
Freedom!!!
October 23, 2017 at 2:40 pm #9819Dawg E. Dawg
ParticipantRumors aside, I don’t think Hue makes it past the bye. He’s getting desperate for a win, that’s the only possible reason for pulling Kizer yesterday. I was behind his moves with Hogan, but yesterday just bewilders me (and I mm a Kessler fan).
Pulling Kizer for Hogan was good to send a message to Kizer that he’s not invincible. Pulling him again for Kessler says Hue has no faith in him and thinks he’s trash. Hue has dicked this all up.
He should’ve started the season with Kessler. If Cody struggles, you can go to Kizer and there’s no pressure on him for the whole season. But by starting with Kizer, he left nowhere to go when Kizer struggled. DUMB. I have no idea why Hogan was ever above Kessler in the order.
He’s dicked the qb situation up so much that I’m now completely indifferent to this coaching staff and FO. When they were hired, I would’ve argued tooth and nail that they should get 3 years regardless of record. Now? I’m so meh about the whole thing it’s not even funny.
October 23, 2017 at 3:34 pm #9822
ShooterModeratorPulling him again for Kessler says Hue has no faith in him
Well throwing your league leading 5th INT in the redzone this year will do that to ya. His other INT was just a horrible throw. Any semblance of decent QB play and the Browns are up 2 scores in that game.
He’s dicked the qb situation up so much
Has he? Because I’m inclined to think that Sashi is the one far more behind the dicking up of the QB situation seeing as he’s the one who drafted/signed all of these guys. I had huge, giant, enormous reservations about Kizer coming out of college, and they’ve all proven to be true and real. Kessler was a “what the fuck are you…..this guy? Seriously?” pick a couple years ago. Just puzzling and head scratching. Kessler was mediocre to below average at best in college. Why he was even drafted in the first place, let alone in the 3rd round, is inexcusable. Kevin Hogan was drafted in the 5th by the Chiefs and cut. Because he’s Kevin Hogan.
In that time, the Browns have passed on Carson Wentz, Jared Goff, and Deshaun Watson.
Even Paxton Lynch would’ve looked and fared better here than this trio of total suck. And they let an adequate veteran like McCown go when he could have been steering the ship while one these younger guys learned at a good pace. He’s got the Jets, the goddamn Jets, at .500 this year.
Again, it’s harder and harder for me to find fault in Hue when the reality is he was given a gigantic pile of shit without a shovel. What can he do? His options all suck, because his QB’s all suck. And suck baaaaaaaaaaaaad.
October 23, 2017 at 3:58 pm #9824Dawg E. Dawg
ParticipantI think I could accept Hue pulling him for his performance if Hue didn’t keep going on and on in his pressers about how Kizer is the future and we still believe in him and we’re in it for the lon haul yada yada yada. If you’re not in it for a full game, you’re not in it for the long haul.
As for Sashi, I’ll continue to defend the Kessler pick because he is a solid backup, which is what you can expect out of a typical 3rd round pick. I think he’s actually played well enough to justify his draft spot.
However, I completely agree about the Goff, Wentz, Watson argument. Sashi lost my support when he failed to get one of the top 3 qb prospects in the draft his year. He dicked the Browns qb situation as well.
But Hue has taken what he was given and made it worse. Think of it like an episode of Chopped. Hue was given ground up roadkill and asked to make a steak dinner. Ok, nobody is gonna look great there. But Hue took the road kill and burnt the shit out of it and served it with frozen peas and told the judges “I thought it looked like a pretty good steak.”
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