2016 Free Agency

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  • #4314
    DawgPoundDude
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    It’s coming. And we have some holes that need filled, even BEFORE the Big Four that we have (Mack, Schwartz, Benjamin and Gipson) hit the market. Who do we try keeping? Who should we bring in?

    #4356
    DawgPoundDude
    Participant

    Looks as if we’re gonna be losing those guys…with some serviceable replacements that we are currently showing some interest in.

    Wisniewski (C) from Jacksonville, who isn’t bad but ya might want to keep him out of the shotgun…apparently the cause of two fumbles last year. Still, he isn’t gonna command an insane price tag. Plus, he was drafted by the Oakland team that Hue was on, so he is familiar with him. Not sure if we should expect good things here.

    Adam Jones (CB) from Cincinnati, has gotten phone calls as well…and while I think “greatness” is behind him, the guy can still play football. Plus, he hates Joey Porter. That alone makes him OK in my book. Sign him immediately.

    We’ve also resigned Tank Carder, Jamie Meder, and RB Raheem Mostert (he returned a couple of decent kicks at the end of last season). Also tendered four RFA’s: DB Don Jones, OL Austin Pasztor, WR Terrelle Pryor, and good ol’ Bloodbath LB Scott Solomon.

    So…yeah. That’s what we got.

    #4360
    the dude
    Participant

    Dude Here.

    Besides Adam Jones still being a thug, he has stayed out of trouble off the field and he is still pretty good in the backfield. Its too bad we have to even look at him.

    I sadly think we are going to show really how bad it is in cleveland now that some of these players are free agents and we have drafted subpar backups.

    I hope the new coaching scheme works on getting younger players more playing time and experience. Sitting young players like the last coaching group decided to do really hurt this team.

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #4363
    Ice
    Keymaster

    I think our best chance at winning next year would come from putting together an unstoppable team…. of spies and sabotage artists. Mess with the other team’s planes so they don’t get to the game in time, release fleas into the hotel rooms of opponents, send hookers and blow to the more susceptible players on other teams.

    That’s how we win.

    #4372
    MDP Sack Attack
    Participant

    Sounds like Mack is getting signed by the Falcons. Damn, that’s two big hits to our offense today.

    Marvin Jones is signing in Detroit, so our quest for a wide receiver continues. He was probably our best hope in free agency.

    #4373
    MDP Sack Attack
    Participant

    We’ve reportedly retracted our offer to Mitchell Schwartz. Ice can rest easy.

    #4374
    DawgPoundDude
    Participant

    Sounds to me as if we better get to signing somebody. Either potentially replacing who we lost or…ugh.

    Hope we aren’t hell bent on letting everyone walk with nothing to add.

    #4379
    Ice
    Keymaster

    Apparently the Browns think that free agency starts next week.

    #4382
    DawgPoundDude
    Participant

    In the meantime, we’ve lost 4 starters. What the fuck are they thinking?

    #4394
    soup
    Participant

    Can we end the Sashi Brown and Moneyball losers reign of terror already? Enough is enough.

    Alex Mack – gone
    TaShaun Gipson – gone
    Mitchel Schwartz – gone
    Travis Benjamin – gone
    Marvin Jones – essentially laughed at their offer
    Rishard Matthews – didn’t bother with us.

    Now they are attempting to trade for a worthless bum with no accuracy who couldn’t even beat out Blaine Gabbert – yes folks – these idiots are trying to trade for Colin Crapperneck.

    They are proving me correct. Losing on purpose to move the team.

    Freedom!!!

    #4406
    Shooter
    Moderator

    I’m in agreement with you.

    Right up until you lose all sense of reality with this:

    Losing on purpose to move the team.

    Seriously, you need to stop with that shit.

    #4407
    soup
    Participant

    I’ll stop when they quit hiring morons like Sashi Brown and some baseball bum who knows nothing about the game to run the team. This is just absurd. To lose 4 starters and sign 0 guys in free agency is moronic. At this rate they need to have all 10 picks in the draft become starters and excel next year

    Freedom!!!

    #4408
    the dude
    Participant

    What are you guys talking about? We never sign guys right at free agency. We wait until players have no hope and have burnt their bridge with their current team.

    Guys WE HAVE MONEYBALL!

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #4411
    BillWunkle
    Participant

    Dawson errrrrrrrr Dude is right. The Browns will sign some free agents – even if only a few – but they’ll be “second tier” free agents. No clue as to whim they may be targeting.

    It was disappointing to see both Mack and Schwartz go. Evidently, the Browns had an offer on the table that wound up being more than what he settled for in KC. However, the Browns said “If you leave the room, then that offer goes away”. Schwartz wanted to shop around and found that no one wanted to offer him what Cleveland did, but by then it was too late. Thus, he signed with the Chiefs.

    Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!

    #4413
    the dude
    Participant

    Dawson errrrrrrrr Dude is right. The Browns will sign some free agents – even if only a few – but they’ll be “second tier” free agents. No clue as to whim they may be targeting.
    It was disappointing to see both Mack and Schwartz go. Evidently, the Browns had an offer on the table that wound up being more than what he settled for in KC. However, the Browns said “If you leave the room, then that offer goes away”. Schwartz wanted to shop around and found that no one wanted to offer him what Cleveland did, but by then it was too late. Thus, he signed with the Chiefs.

    I know, I am just being the most optimistic browns fan.

    I am really sad to see us lose Mitchell. I don’t think he was the best, but I don’t think he was bad. Mack pretty much said after we became a loser again, he was going to test the waters.

    What really scares me is Irving at Center. Like he was really bad last year. He go blown of the ball and had no technique. Whoever is in the backfield, better watch the center position if you dont want to get your head ripped off.

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #4429
    DawgPoundDude
    Participant

    We just signed OL Alvin Bailey from Seattle, LB Justin Tuggle from Houston. Woo, Super Bowl.

    Well, at least we signed someone.

    #4431
    soup
    Participant

    Role players. Lose 4 starts and bring in role players – meanwhile tell the fans you are building through the draft – then offer a high draft pick for Kapernack. Same old story. Clueless front office. Reboot in 2 years again – get rid of a bunch of 25 and 26 year olds and re-draft the same position, put a stamp on it and call it “building.” My 30 seconds of optimism with the hire of Hue has ended. If it looks like shit, smells like shit and tastes like shit – then guess what. It’s the same old shit.

    Freedom!!!

    #4435
    Ice
    Keymaster

    Let’s not grade the offseason just based on the first 2 weeks. If we know one thing about this front office, we know they are using a plan. These guys have a cerebral approach and definitely intended to lose the players they lost based on our very small offers.

    #4436
    soup
    Participant

    Let’s not grade the offseason just based on the first 2 weeks. If we know one thing about this front office, we know they are using a plan. These guys have a cerebral approach and definitely intended to lose the players they lost based on our very small offers.

    So their approach involved making the roster worse by losing 2 25 year Olds and a 26 year old.

    They told you they are smart. Believing them is stupid.

    Freedom!!!

    #4437
    Shooter
    Moderator

    Soup, I want to argue with you so bad. I want to tell you you’re crazy. I want to say you have no idea what you’re talking about and that you have, as usual, gone off the deep end.

    I really really do.

    #4438
    DawgPoundDude
    Participant

    Well, what sucks is he’s usually right. Still, new guys in the office, new coach…it’s either wait and see, root for Buffalo, or stop watching altogether.

    I’ll wait and see…even though I don’t like any of my options.

    #4439
    soup
    Participant

    Soup, I want to argue with you so bad. I want to tell you you’re crazy. I want to say you have no idea what you’re talking about and that you have, as usual, gone off the deep end.
    I really really do.

    But you can’t because you know I’m right.

    The fact that we lost all of our free agents from our own roster is unsettling. Especially when it’s a fact that the people behind them are not better. Therefore our roster got worse.

    Josh Gordon, of course, is our most talented WR. But is he going to be able to contribute? Who knows. Will he be reinstated? No one knows.

    Travis Benjamin, therefore, is the best WR that was on the roster. Is he a #1? Nope. Is he a #2? Potentially. Is he a #3? That’s where he’s best suited. That’s where he’d be pretty much uncoverable. On a team devoid of WR we got worse at the position.

    Alex Mack – by far the best center on the team, that said – they get a pass here. He’s turning 31 and he opted out of the contract and took $500k LESS to play elsewhere. that’s okay.

    Tashaun Gipson – pro-bowl player. Always in the right spot. Would excel in a defense like Horton. Didn’t even try resigning him.

    Schwartz – while people here hate him. He’s a solid RT. He tested the market and the Browns had him priced right – the BROWNS then removed the offer he was going to take when he realized he couldn’t get $8 million. We created a massive hole at RT by being foolish and not leaving the offer on the table. He was by far the best RT on the roster.

    Bademosi, solid ST player. Absolutely terrible at CB/S anytime he played there. We at least replaced him with Tuggle.

    My overall point is that this regime is just like all the others. They are purposefully creating holes because they “didn’t draft that player.”

    So with 10 draft picks we added:

    Starting RT
    ANOTHER Starting WR
    Starting safety

    Yes folks, these “people with a cerebral plan” have just wasted 3 draft picks that weren’t necessary to waste. they aren’t building. They are rinsing and repeating the sins of the past.

    We may end up being the first team ever fined for not spending the required MINIMUM amount of money on the roster.

    Freedom!!!

    #4440
    Ice
    Keymaster

    To put it in other terms, I’m currently in the process of building an outdoor 10×16 office for my wife. Step 1…. dig trenches in the ground that will eventually be filled with gravel upon which the trusses will sit.

    Soup you’re basically looking at the trenches I’m digging and saying my office is going to suck just based off of the holes in the ground.

    I don’t understand their plan at all. I’d have liked them to at least keep Bademosi (for ST). But I don’t know what the plan is, all I know is that it doesn’t involve overpaying a C, RT, S, or WR. It’s way too early to judge.

    #4442
    soup
    Participant

    They have no plan. It’s the same old running on ice. I explained.

    Freedom!!!

    #4444
    Shooter
    Moderator

    But you can’t because you know I’m right.

    And I gotta tell ya it’s pissing me off something fierce.

    I’m not gonna go quite as far as saying “they have no plan”, but whatever it is, it’s goofy as fuck.

    To put it in other terms, I’m currently in the process of building an outdoor 10×16 office for my wife. Step 1…. dig trenches in the ground that will eventually be filled with gravel upon which the trusses will sit.

    Soup you’re basically looking at the trenches I’m digging and saying my office is going to suck just based off of the holes in the ground.

    Well to be fair Ice, you’re probably digging those trenches with shovels, pickaxes, and wheelbarrows, or maybe even with a backhoe.

    The Browns are using pitchforks and huge buckets of water, leading to the very simple questions “okay, what the fuck are they doing?” and “explain to me how the hell that’s gonna work?”

    It makes me almost pull my own skin off, but I pretty much have to agree with Soup here. So far, this regime has gotten off to at best, a calamitous start.

    #4452
    the dude
    Participant

    To put it in other terms, I’m currently in the process of building an outdoor 10×16 office for my wife. Step 1…. dig trenches in the ground that will eventually be filled with gravel upon which the trusses will sit.

    We’ve known you for a long time Ice. You do not have to lie to us. Your wife is making you build a DawgHouse for you to watch your Browns games and post on BFT. Please post pictures when you are done with your little princess castle.

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #4453
    the dude
    Participant

    They have no plan. It’s the same old running on ice. I explained.

    It is hard to say. Like everything I have seen so far is they have no plan. But in reality, they could just be cleaning house. I am sure Mack was not a good player in the locker room since his attitude all year was leaving cleveland and some of the other players could have been the same way. Many of the vets just plain out quit trying half way through the season.

    I am no pro keeping a player based on their name, but based on their attitudes. It is very difficult for us from the outside to be able to say one way or another, but we knew at the beginning of the season a couple of these guys wanted out.

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #4458
    Shooter
    Moderator

    Please post pictures when you are done with your little princess castle.

    lmao @ “princess castle”

    #4468
    DawgPoundDude
    Participant

    Looks like we signed someone…Demario Davis, LB, 2 years, 8 million, 4 of it guaranteed. 90 tackles splitting time.

    Not great, but not shabby. I’m more interested in the castle that Ice built.

    #4469
    soup
    Participant

    Browns signed ILB Demario Davis, formerly of the Jets, to a two-year, $8 million contract.

    And the Browns are on the board. After playing hardball and missing out on their free-agent targets the first week of the league year, Cleveland has finally found someone to take its money. Davis was a 16-game starter last season but hasn’t put anything on tape to suggest he’s anything more than an average starter. Mar 16 – 9:24 AM

    Source: Manish Mehta on Twitter

    Freedom!!!

    #4479
    DawgPoundDude
    Participant

    Another star player signed. Safety cut by Houston, Rahim Moore.

    #4481
    the dude
    Participant

    Browns signed ILB Demario Davis, formerly of the Jets, to a two-year, $8 million contract.
    And the Browns are on the board. After playing hardball and missing out on their free-agent targets the first week of the league year, Cleveland has finally found someone to take its money.<strong class=”d4pbbc-bold”> Davis was a 16-game starter last season but hasn’t put anything on tape to suggest he’s anything more than an average starter. Mar 16 – 9:24 AM
    Source: Manish Mehta on Twitter

    hey at this point average is pretty good on this roster!!

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #4483
    MDP Sack Attack
    Participant

    @ice, but if someone dug said trenches for you, would you fill them back in and re-dig them just so you knee they were “your trenches”?

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