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Manziel – clearly doesn’t respect them.
West – clearly doesn’t respect them.
Gordon – Clearly doesn’t respect them.
Tate – clearly didn’t respect them.
Gilbert – clearly doesn’t respect them.
Joe Thomas – most vocal in the media he’s ever been in his 8 years.
Halftime and pre-game speeches in turnarounds always attributed to the veteran players.
In short – we made a huge mistake letting the last staff go and hiring these guys.
Freedom!!!
Manziel – Clearly doesn’t respect any authority. Allegedly got into a shouting match with an assistant coach in college and also turned his back on his head coach while the HC was talking to him then walked away.
West – Not sure why you think West doesn’t respect them. Haven’t heard any reports of that. Regardless he’s not exactly Sister Egret the Pious.
Gordon – Doesn’t seem to respect anyone but Gordon. Doesn’t follow rules pure and simple. Football doesn’t seem to be his main priority.
Gilbert – Being late to practice shows a disrespect not only for the coaches but for the team and job as a whole.
Joe Thomas – Being vocal because some players are being disrespectful… calling them out in public. That’s leadership.
What I’m saying as a whole is that aside from Gordon this staff decided to fill this team with guys who have problems with authority (Gordon is from the last staff). I find more fault in the choosing of the players than the coaching of the players. All these players have demonstrated issues with authority at the college level. It isn’t a lack of discipline in the current coaching staff that caused these problems.
Pettine has been VERY hard on these players. He has told them what he expects of them and punished them when they have not lived up to the bare minimum expected of them. Manziel was nailed so hard to the bench that it took a disaster of calamitous proportions on Hoyer’s part to get Manziel on the field. Gilbert started the offseason as a starting QB and through lack of effort (and possibly other issues that we’ll never hear about) he fell so far down the depth chart that he only saw daylight when everyone else got injured. He was behind two other rookie CB’s who were drafted in the 4th round and undrafted, despite having immensely more potential than either of them. I suspect that Gordon would have been benched the first time he quit on a route in this last game. Pettine seems to have taken all the steps he could to ‘educate’ these misfits. He publicly called them out. He allowed the team vets to publicly call them out. He fined them. He suspended them. The problem is NOT with the coaches, it’s with the players.
The big issue was he went real easy on them in OTAs. He was afraid to set an example. The moment Johnny went to Vegas instead of working extra was the moment Hoyer should’ve been named starter and Shaw #2. Had he done that then everyone would’ve seen that you have to work.
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eh…I think Haslam is the reason why Manziel got away with what he did. I think that changes this year, but I’m not sure any of us see Manziel as our franchise QB.
Haslam has to let the front office do its thing and stay out of it.
(I know I am speculating, but I really don’t see Pettine as a “let the players walk all over me” type of coach. So I think Haslam is the reason why we have Manziel.)
i think it is so funny that any one can debate someone that says “clearly doesn’t respect them” as if they really know something.
as far as i am concern, haslem can cut any one of the players who don’t respect the coaching. haslem owns the team and these players are paid a significant amount of money to perform and fit in. if 10 people at my job hate my boss, but he runs the best program that we have seen in years, then may be we need to access ourselves who the problem is.
although, i will not debate with some guy who sits on his couch and clearly says “no one respects them” its fucking asinine.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
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