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DK Metcalf has insanely low body fat percentage at NFL Combine
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Height:98
Weight:95
Wingspan:98
Arm Length:99
Hand Size:98Butler’s listed size drew Mike Evans comparisons, and the real measurements were even more impressive. Butler measured at 6’5 3/8” 227 pounds, with 10 3⁄4” hands and 35 1⁄4” arms. He set a record for the longest wingspan to be recorded by a wide receiver at a whopping 83 7/8”. If he shows off in the vertical leap on Friday, the first round talk could start heating up.
This guy is going to flash today. Wait until he jumps. Just wait. I don’t even care what his 40 time is (though I think it will be respectable). At over 6’5”, with that wingspan and the leaping ability he’s about to show, he’s literally always open.
This kid has a chance to be great. Calvin Johnson great. Game recognizes game, and Johnson’s involvement with Butler is no coincidence. I’m doubling down. Before he jumps. Before he runs. Before he drills. I think he’s the best WR in this draft, and I think he has a legitimate shot at being one of the best WRs in history.
No hyperbole. He, like Mahomes, has a set of incredible physical traits that are so very rarely seen together in a single player.
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0What shocked me was DK beating out Butler in wingspan measurables.
Hakeem Butler Iowa St. ht6053 wt227 hn10 3/4 ar35 1/4
D.K. Metcalf Mississippi ht6033 wt228 hn9 7/8 ar34 7/8
But good lord Butler has 1st basemen’s mitts for hands
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If I were a GM I’d be very careful about moving guys up and down the draft board based on measurables.
Why isn’t he a TE? Can you imagine if he had gone to a TE school like UM? He’d be an impossible mismatch.
I don’t disagree Ice. However, Butler has been at the top of my draft board for months, he was productive in college, and his measurables lead me to believe his dominance will continue at the next level (he has a Shaq like differential in measurables compared to the majority of his peers – look at those hands).
And DS for the record, DK Metcalf’s wingspan is being reported at 82 7/8, Butler measured 83 7/8. I’m given to understand Metcalf was measured first, broke the record, and Butler then broke Metcalf’s record.
The knocks against Butler; route running; focus – are all things that can be improved with practice and reps (especially with a guy like Jarvis Landry on the roster to push him).
To me, Butler is Vincent Jackson with more top end speed, ++ leaping ability and +++ body balance. DK definitely has the stronger physique, but it is that +++ body balance that makes Butler the better prospect (and it’s evident in Butlers 22 yard per catch average).
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0For the record, this class with Metcalf and Butler reminds me a lot of AJ Green and Julio Jones. I think both receivers have a ton of potential and two teams are going to find themselves in great situations moving forward.
With our QB1 finally on the roster, if I were GM, I’d draft Butler and then move right back up and take Metcalf with the next pick (future picks).
Imagine:
QB: Mayfield
RB: Chubb, Hunt, Johnson
WR: Butler, Metcalf, Landry
TE: NjokuAddress D and OL in 2nd round and later (deep D draft) and FA.
Who could stop that?
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0imagine getting them BOTH as outside receivers….
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Twin towers. Completely unstoppable. We would impose our will on teams any way we wanted to.
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0Twin towers. Completely unstoppable. We would impose our will on teams any way we wanted to.
I wonder if it would be actually a good idea to do that?
Say go all in a FA Grab 4 patriots. LT T.Brown DE Flowers DT’s Brown & Shelton.
Then go all in with your draft capital to get these 2 WR’s.
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I do think, based on what Dorsey did in Kansas City, he is a believer in the power of explosive talent at the skill positions. I don’t know that Butler and Metcalf necessarily fit his prototype, but I don’t know that they don’t either. Tyreek Hill and Kareem Hunt both possess elite physical traits, but size is not among them.
Personally, I am a fan of stacking position groups. Not only does it provide depth, it creates mismatches against an opponent’s position groups. Name the cornerback group capable of shutting down Butler, Metcalf and Landry. Which Chubb, Hunt and Johnson on the roster at RB and Njoku at TE, what safety help are you going to get on the WRs?
There’s a million different ways to build this team, and I’m excited to see what John will do.
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0Not that it means a whole lot position wise. but metcalf put up 27 reps on the bench….damn.
Shows massive dedication and hard work in the weight room for sure. Which are good things in his favor.
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Butler’s first pass just came in at 4.49! And he looked HORRIBLE coming out of the blocks.
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0Butler ran 4.50 on his second attempt. He again looked TERRIBLE getting out of the blocks. A track star he is not, and I maintain that he plays faster than his timed speed indicates.
I can’t wait to see him jump.
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0Butler ran 4.50 on his second attempt. He again looked TERRIBLE getting out of the blocks. A track star he is not, and I maintain that he plays faster than his timed speed indicates.
I can’t wait to see him jump.Well getting of the line and getting off the blocks track stance wise are all about quickness and reflexes… but that is a damn good 40 for the guy.
I’ll eat the crow and say I though he was a lot slower.
I wondering if DK will run a 4.4 flatish..
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A lot of it is technique though. Butler isn’t a track athlete, and because his stride is SO long, he “looks” slower than guys who much slower than he did. N’keal Harry’s 4.54 looked faster than Butler’s 4.49 (and Harry isn’t a small receiver).
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0I’m not sure what the deal is, but some of the QBs are screwing around during the toe drag and gauntlet drills. It got so bad that Steve Smith went down and “coached up” one of the QBs about screwing with a WR’s money.
DK Metcalf just jumped 40 1/2”.
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0Metcalf just ran a 4.33!!!!!
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0Metcalf just ran a 4.33!!!!!
Holy shit!…I new he was fast but damn……Welp looks like I will be switching to Hakkem Butler in my mocks….Aint no way Metcalf lasts to 17 now
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Metcalf’s second 40 time came in at 4.38
Steve Smith brought up an interesting point about Metcalf:
Has he already peaked? With his size, speed and body fat, Smith feels he won’t see the gains other players do when they join the NFL because his conditioning is already so good.
Then Julio Jones was brought up, and it was nearly a concensus that it doesn’t matter if there’s room for development, he can be physically dominant in the NFL now.
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0Butler’s official time in the 40 now stands at 4.48.
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0Metcalf’s second 40 time came in at 4.38
Steve Smith brought up an interesting point about Metcalf:
Has he already peaked? With his size, speed and body fat, Smith feels he won’t see the gains other players do when they join the NFL because his conditioning is already so good.
Then Julio Jones was brought up, and it was nearly a concensus that it doesn’t matter if there’s room for development, he can be physically dominant in the NFL now.Thought that was a dumb segment. He can be a really good WR with 4.5 speed. But he has 4.3 speed. SO I don’t get the knock at all.
Bigger Freak DK or Butler….for me it is DK.
Te kid is the Bo Jackson of WR’s IMO, Crazy big strong and fast.
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I want to see what Butler jumps before I finish forming my opinion. I expected this from Butler (as my prediction on his 40 proved spot on), but Metcalf has been a surprise due to his injury.
Again, I don’t know what metrics are used to call this a weak WR class. Record breaking college production, freakish athletes – I see 7 potential pro bowlers:
Hakeem Butler
DK Metcalf
AJ Brown
N’keal Harry
Parris Campbell
Marquise Brown
Deebo SamuelAnd honestly, there are 3 more based on college production that I believe will be legit #2 or solid slot receivers.
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0I want to see what Butler jumps before I finish forming my opinion. I expected this from Butler (as my prediction on his 40 proved spot on), but Metcalf has been a surprise due to his injury.
Again, I don’t know what metrics are used to call this a weak WR class. Record breaking college production, freakish athletes – I see 7 potential pro bowlers:
Hakeem Butler
DK Metcalf
AJ Brown
N’keal Harry
Parris Campbell
Marquise Brown
Deebo Samuel
And honestly, there are 3 more based on college production that I believe will be legit #2 or solid slot receivers.I was reading other folks work/takes and that was the consensus then. SHould have done more of my own work. But I was busy at the time. So oh well egg on me.
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I wasn’t calling you out. It’s definitely been a theme in the media. I just don’t understand why. The production is on par with previous classes, I heard them say that this may have been the most athletic class ever. I don’t understand how the narrative started.
That said, looks like DK wins the freak title. While impressive in their own right, Butler’s 36” very and 128” broad jump are no match for DK’s results (40.5”/134”), especially when paired with his bench and 40 time.
I still think both are going to be incredible, and I still think both have the physical tools to be in the conversation for greatest ever if they stay healthy. I still like Butler better, but I like Metcalf too and I’m not sure he won’t be the better receiver. I see this very much being like Goff vs. Wentz. The teams that end up with these guys are going to be better for it.
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0the biggest difference IMO between the 2 is I think the 4.33 speed eliminates 8 man boxes totally for chubb, where as there are corners in the the league here and there that can cover butler 1 on 1. IE Talib for example.
Other than that, I think both will add more points 1st downs and efficiency.
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I’m going to caution you against putting too much stock in 40 times. So much of it is technique. Josh Gordon ran a 4.52 at his pro day, Antonio Brown ran a 4.47 at the combine. Good times don’t always translate onto the field and bad times aren’t indicative of a lack of speed. As was pointed out earlier in this thread, against the same opponent, with the same number of receptions, Butler’s YPC was significantly higher. I attribute that to his Spider-Man like body control/balance.
That said, I think both Butler and Metcalf are uncoverable in single coverage in today’s NFL. I look at what Gordon did to Talib and, with the current rules, I can’t imagine him getting the upper hand on either of these guys.
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0comp game after today:
Metcalf comp Josh Gordon is spot on IMO but the nFL Julio Jones comp was damn interesting
Butler reminds me of Plaxico Burress and Terrell Pryor
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I think the comparison to Jones is far more fitting for Metcalf than a comparison to Gordon. Metcalf is a much more explosive athlete than Gordon, who was much more smooth and rangy. I don’t say this lightly, but I think Metcalf is a more explosive, stronger version of Jones.
To my eye, Butler is the more adequate comparison to Gordon. He is sneaky fast. He is smooth. He has exceptional body balance. He is not as explosive as Jones or Pryor (or Butler for that matter), but he is faster and smoother and has much more balance than Plaxico despite the similarity in their appearance. I think Butler’s best comparison is AJ Green. The smoothness, the speed, the body balance that gives him the ability to reach behind himself (and over the defender) to catch an underthrown ball – Butler is not the 1 dimensional vertical WR that Burress was.
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0Butler ran a 4.48 40, 18 reps at 225# 36″ vert 128″ broad not bad I was more impressed with D.K. Metcalf and less impressed with K Neal harry from Ariz.
I love the combine as much as everyone, but it’s primary purpose is to expose red flags, not predict success at the next level.
As great as DK Metcalf’s performance was, his college performance was underwhelming (in part due to injury). He had 646 yards and 7 TD in 2017. He had 569 yards and 5 TDS in 7 games in 2018 while averaging 21.9 yards per catch before succumbing to injury.
Butler recorded 697 yards and 7 TDs in 2017, and recorded 1318 yards and 9 TDS in 2018 while averaging 22.0 yards per catch.
It’s not what you have, necessarily, it’s what you do with it. “Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane” is a saying for a reason. Carson Wentz is a prime example. Incredibly gifted athlete, and great when he plays. He was injured in college and has injuries in the NFL made Nick Foles a lot of money.
Now I’m not trying to take away from DK Metcalf’s combine performance, but film first. I’ve seen him run down from behind. Vs. the same opponent (TTU) both receivers caught 4 passes. Butler’s 4 receptions went for 148 yards and a touchdown (37 yards per catch). Metcalf recorded 81 yards and a TD (20.3 yards per reception). If you had to match the combine performance to the stat line, who would you guess had which stat line?
From where I sit, Butler’s combine performance confirmed everything I’ve been saying about him. Not a single one of his numbers worries me, and when I look at what he did at Iowa State, breaking their receiving record with 3 different QBs, I continue to believe that this guy is the best WR (Not athlete) in the 2018 draft class. I said this kid was a first round talent when the rest of the world said he was a late 2nd, early 3rd rounder. Now look at the headlines:
Hakeem Butler in play for Cleveland Browns at 17 after 40-yard dash
But his focus, his route running, his…
I get it. He still has some work to do. The thing is, he’s 22 years old. Most WRs have this criticism coming out of college. In addition to working real hard in the NFL, emerging science about brain development suggests maturity isn’t reached until 25. My point? The game is going to come to him. His weaknesses, revolving mostly around focus, will naturally improve as he ages.
I’m doubling down. I said he has the skills to be one of the greatest WRs in history, I’m going to give him the NFL comp he truly deserves:
Calvin Johnson.
Why? Because it just so happens that Calvin Johnson agrees.
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0One of the greatest WR’s in history? Would you even call him one of the best college WR’s this year???? Let’s see him play against pros before we fit him with a gold jacket.
He’s really good. He destroyed Oklahoma. But right now he’s a 1 trick pony. He runs a 9 route and out-athletics anyone around him to make a play. In the NFL he won’t be out-athleticking (it’s my made-up word I get to decide how to spell it) everyone. He’s got work to do on all the other routes.
I absolutely would say he was one of the best WRs in college this year, especially given Iowa State’s instability at college.
If you think all he ran was a 9 route, I’d challenge to go back and look at his game film. He made some huge splash plays running the 9, but He was lined up at X, Y and Z (he actually played the slot quite frequently) and running the rest of the tree. He has highlights on the left, right and middle of the field. The only routes I really didn’t see him run much of was the 3 and 4.
Here’s why I’m all in on this kid. I believed that we should have taken Mahomes at #1 but tempered my opinion because Garrett is such a great talent. While I hinted at it, I didn’t expressly state it. I could be completely wrong, but so far, everything I said about this kid in my initial post has come to fruition. For me this is about the accountability of calling my shot. I’m telling you that the same thing that made me say he’s a first rounder are the same things that are going to make him abuse NFL corners like Gordon abused Talib.
If I’m wrong, you can point and laugh. If I’m right, the amount of attention you pay to my posts goes up.
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https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0I’m definitely in the minority, but I don’t necessarily see getting as jacked and bulky as Metcalf being much of a positive for a WR. A huge part of the game is being able to contort your body to make awkward catches in space around other bodies, and land super awkwardly without getting injured. That’s why it’s traditionally a lanky, flexible player’s position. Frankly he strikes me as an injury risk.
I agree with you MDP. If being build like a linebacker made you a better receiver then more receivers would be built like linebackers. David Boston was the last guy with a LB build to play receiver and the year he bulked up like crazy was the year he started sucking. With all that muscle you lose flexibility and quickness. With DK you could see it in the stats. While his 40 was amazing, his 3 cone drill score was among the worst WR’s, and was worse than even most TE’s. It’s the same story with his shuttle drill.
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The kid is getting more love. I’m telling you, he’s going to be a great one. Keep an eye on this kid in the draft. No way he makes it out of the first round.
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