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OT G. Robinson & WR B.Perriman……both players were initially drafted to be franchis cornerstone players at franchise cornerstone position.
They both have FAILED miserably at that for the Rams/Lions for Robinson and the Ravens for Perriman.
Dorsey did some damn good dumpster diving to find some talented band aides for these 2 crucial positions.
Question is will these 2 continue you to develope or are they are what they are NOW? As they are 26 & 25 respectively.
With Robinson You could drfat a better guy and Move him over to RT.
At WR though You have Landry Calaway and Higgins as your top 4. If You drfat a guy who gets bumped Higgins or Perriman? Or do you stick with what you got?
Both Robinson and Perriman got drafted high because they are really really talented athletes and great college players. As pros though. They have been very meh to getting fired.
So what do you all think about these positions and these 2 guys?
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Perriman and Mayfield are starting to form a connection. Robinson can be upgraded but has really helped the line over Harrison debacle. People made fun of me about stating he wasn’t that sick and they used it as an excuse, yet oddly he hasn’t been mentioned again since Robinson took over.
Freedom!!!
People made fun of me about stating he wasn’t that sick and they used it as an excuse,
I didn’t. That’s where suckabetes came from lol.
People made fun of me about stating he wasn’t that sick and they used it as an excuse,
I didn’t. That’s where suckabetes came from lol.
clearly he still has it because he hasn’t been seen lately! There’s no cure
Freedom!!!
Robinson, I’d like to bring in another veteran to compete for the LT spot, but especially with Bitonio next to him I don’t see a need to spend a high draft pick on a left tackle, unless that’s the best player out there. He’s not elite, has plenty of holes in his game, but he has all the tools and is at least an average left tackle. That’s fine.
Perriman is a non-factor. He’s had some good plays, but a few two-catch games don’t make you a number one receiver.
Robinson, I’d like to bring in another veteran to compete for the LT spot, but especially with Bitonio next to him I don’t see a need to spend a high draft pick on a left tackle, unless that’s the best player out there. He’s not elite, has plenty of holes in his game, but he has all the tools and is at least an average left tackle. That’s fine.
Perriman is a non-factor. He’s had some good plays, but a few two-catch games don’t make you a number one receiver.Problem is it is by all estimation I have seen and read its a thin class at LT and WR talent wise…..
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As for Robinson unless their is a second coming of Joe Thomas in the mid first round I’d rather put Have the pick used somewhere else, as for Perriman maybe he works just as a #3 or 4 wr but look at the catches he makes that 3rd and 11 when we were backed up in our end zone was legit.
Ahh suckabetes. There no NFL protocol for coming back from that. Manziel has to go to Canada to get treatment for his, and still, the prognosis isn’t good.
But for WR and LT, this is how good teams are built. At least we’re talking about upgrading weak positions and not fixing massive holes. That in itself is an improvement.
Also, Ricardo Louis may be able to push Perriman next year when he’s healthy. Of course, that’s assuming he got a double hand transplant to cure his own case of suckabetes.
Robinson, I’d like to bring in another veteran to compete for the LT spot, but especially with Bitonio next to him I don’t see a need to spend a high draft pick on a left tackle, unless that’s the best player out there. He’s not elite, has plenty of holes in his game, but he has all the tools and is at least an average left tackle. That’s fine.
Perriman is a non-factor. He’s had some good plays, but a few two-catch games don’t make you a number one receiver.Problem is it is by all estimation I have seen and read its a thin class at LT and WR talent wise…..
Then you definitely don’t force it.
Dorsey did a great job of filling roster holes through free agency and trades this off-season, some he could hide his cards at the draft (except the obvious hole at QB, which there’s no point in trying to hide at #1 overall). No reason to think he won’t do the same this year.
I haven’t begun to look and see who is or isn’t available in FA next year, but I’d have to assume that a good tackle or two will be hitting the market, same with WR. The Browns will have a shit ton of cap room again, so the ability to fill holes is going to be there via that route.
As for the draft, I’d have to assume that a WR will be the first target of Dorsey.
Take the best player at a position not currently filled with a star. If the BPA is a DB then take him.
But if we’re just strictly talking about our need, WR is way higher IMO than tackle. Robinson’s arrow is pointing up. We haven’t talked about Hubbard in weeks. What we need is a reliable #1 receiver to blow the top off of any coverage and draw a double team. Right now the guy getting doubled is Landry.
What we need is a reliable #1 receiver to blow the top off of any coverage and draw a double team.
Yell that shit from the rooftops bro.
If we are able to add that…….look out. Baker and Landry will absolutely shred teams on underneath and crossing routes, and if/when they make an adjustment to that, whoops, you just got scorched over the top.
Offensively it’s really the only piece of the puzzle that we’re missing to take us from good to great/elite.
Now granted, that guy has to be a stud. Just having a body out there doesn’t do much. A 6-4 inch 4.3 40 running pile of shit that can’t run a route or shake off coverage does nothing. He doesn’t need to be Julio Jones, but a Devante Adams or Michael Thomas would be nice.
What we need is a reliable #1 receiver to blow the top off of any coverage and draw a double team.
Yell that shit from the rooftops bro.
If we are able to add that…….look out. Baker and Landry will absolutely shred teams on underneath and crossing routes, and if/when they make an adjustment to that, whoops, you just got scorched over the top.
Offensively it’s really the only piece of the puzzle that we’re missing to take us from good to great/elite.
Now granted, that guy has to be a stud. Just having a body out there doesn’t do much. A 6-4 inch 4.3 40 running pile of shit that can’t run a route or shake off coverage does nothing. He doesn’t need to be Julio Jones, but a Devante Adams or Michael Thomas would be nice.https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/wide-receivers
I am not really sure if that guy exists in this draft class or not Shooter. I’d like him to though. Theres Paris Campbell but the Browns kind of have that type of WR in Antonio Callaway already so……. I am not sure there is a big WR with speed in this class yet. The combine will help that out possibly.
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Same with free agency…biggest early names are Golden Tate and Randall Cobb. Neither is really going to demand double coverage.
I’d be fine throwing a 2nd round pick at whatever WR turns into a diva and demands a trade this off-season…it’s bound to happen.
In FA that wr from the Chargers might be available Tyrell Williams I think is his name he’s 6’4″ and 205 he’d probably command about 4 mil a yr he’s 27 might be worth it.
When the team gives up 1 sack in 4 games something is working. If Robinson continues to play st a high level then there is no reason to replace him.
Perriman is developing a nice chemistry with Mayfield. Time will tell but yeah we definitely need another WR.
Both are making fine cases to be resigned I believe. Thought I’d revisit this and bump this thread.
Thoughts?
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No reason not to resign either, but also no reason either should just be handed a job. I think competition at both positions is appropriate, especially at WR where no one has turned into a #1 WR. Both Perriman and Callaway have breakaway speed but neither is demanding a double team. We should still be looking for that guy.
No reason not to resign either, but also no reason either should just be handed a job. I think competition at both positions is appropriate, especially at WR where no one has turned into a #1 WR. Both Perriman and Callaway have breakaway speed but neither is demanding a double team. We should still be looking for that guy.
Agreed
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When Perriman came out from South Florida, the book on him was . . . very good size, great speed, couldn’t catch a cold. Before coming to Cleveland, the book was pretty much the same. What changed? Did Perriman finally have an epiphany and realize that, if you’re going to play receiver at the NFL level, you’d better be able to catch the football? When the Browns picked him off waivers, I thought to myself, “Well . . . that’s a wasted move.” As things have turned out thus far, it was far from it.
As for Robinson . . . he was struggling since early on in camp. Now he’s playing like a legitimate starting NFL LT. What changed? Did he finally get comfortable at the position? Did Freddy Kitchens or Bob Wylie (a.k.a. Coach SET-HUT) finally draw things up in a way that he can understand it?
Regardless of how the switch got turned on, I’m glad that the switch got turned on . . . for both players.
Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
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