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Good Riddance. Now hopefully we can play some defense.
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I’m not upset, but I won’t be happy until I see the replacement. If they go with a 3-4 guy, it’ll be a huge setback.
Too bad I didn’t bet @shootrr about his guarantee of a top 10 D with him.
30th overall
28 against the ru
25 against the pass
22 in sacks
21 in PPGBottom half of the league all over the place.
That said, if we get a 3-4 I’ll scream. I’m sure Dorsey spoke about his thoughts on defense during the process and that 3-4 won’t be happening
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With kitchens as HC it would be a strange dynamic to say the least if Williams were to stay as HC. But I will miss his aggressiveness on defense and frankly on offense too.
It’s a very understandable change. I hope Williams the best. I liked him a lot, but I am not going to lose any sleep. His blitzing if that’s what you want to call it was not very good.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
They gave up a lot of yards costing us field position and time of possession but it isn’t like we have 11 studs on defense either.
They created turnovers but all those yards make it more difficult for the offense to score when they have to go 70 or more yards the majority of the time.
I’m in standby mode waiting to see who the DC will be.Never said top 10. I said top half.
In total defense.
And we did.We did? Since when is finishing 30 in D the top half?
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My “Gregg Williams becomes head coach of the Bengals and beats the Browns all the time” scenario is coming true!
It’s the Browns…Lucy has to pull that ball away at some point…
Losing Jones is not a loss. Special teams have been atrocious. I’m betting our ‘RB coach’ Ryan Lindley gets promoted to QB coach. I’m thinking we retain WR coach Henry too.
Right so far Ice, wonder who he’ll bring in? even though the guy’s only been a position coach and short term OC before today he’s been in the league for what a decade or more so I’m sure like all coaches he has people he’s admired and worked with.
They should of kept Blake Williams as DC IMO. I think all the moves made today way under value continuity.
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I think all the moves made today way under value continuity.
Except for the fact that it values greatly the most important relationship of a team, HC and QB. In that aspect,. this move was made solely and specifically because of continuity.
Stop being the Debbie Downer Browns fan of yesteryear. Those days of doom and gloom are over. The other shoe is not dropping. We have a killer Front Office, a hungry, talented team, and a stud QB with a young HC that can be together for the next 12 years.
Smile. Quit pouting.
I think all the moves made today way under value continuity.
Except for the fact that it values greatly the most important relationship of a team, HC and QB. In that aspect,. this move was made solely and specifically because of continuity.
Stop being the Debbie Downer Browns fan of yesteryear. Those days of doom and gloom are over. The other shoe is not dropping. We have a killer Front Office, a hungry, talented team, and a stud QB with a young HC that can be together for the next 12 years.
Smile. Quit pouting.Hey I am just calling it like I see it. Same I did when I started lamenting Harrisons play at LT. Till he contracted a nasty form of Suckabetes.
That said, I am kind of concerned on what kind of scheme the new DC will bring and if it actually fits the players on the roster. IE imagine the rebuild they’d have to do to go back to the 3-4.
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I think all the moves made today way under value continuity.
Except for the fact that it values greatly the most important relationship of a team, HC and QB. In that aspect,. this move was made solely and specifically because of continuity.
Stop being the Debbie Downer Browns fan of yesteryear. Those days of doom and gloom are over. The other shoe is not dropping. We have a killer Front Office, a hungry, talented team, and a stud QB with a young HC that can be together for the next 12 years.
Smile. Quit pouting.Hey I am just calling it like I see it. Same I did when I started lamenting Harrisons play at LT. Till he contracted a nasty form of Suckabetes.
That said, I am kind of concerned on what kind of scheme the new DC will bring and if it actually fits the players on the roster. IE imagine the rebuild they’d have to do to go back to the 3-4.No need for continuity with the 30th ranked defense in the NFL.
As for a 3-4 DC, what major mistake has Dorsey made to lead you to believe he’d draft differently year two and undo year 1?
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I was just pointing what an issue a 3-4 DC would be.
A 4-3 Tampa 2 that takes Peppers out of the box might be an issue as well for example.
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Although if we moved to a Tampa 2 I’d like to see Peppers moved to LB and take advantage of our depth and put Kindred at SS. Peppers is the perfect fit for that role.
Also all it would take is one good DT/DE in the 1st round of the draft to make a great 3-4 front. Rookie DE, Ogunjobi DT, Ogbah DE then Garrett and Avery are the pass rushers. That’s a hell of a front.
At least Peppers will never have to read the QB through binoculars again.
This was the first thing to pop in my mind.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
Although if we moved to a Tampa 2 I’d like to see Peppers moved to LB and take advantage of our depth and put Kindred at SS. Peppers is the perfect fit for that role.
Both players are perfect in this type of scheme….
Hue Jackson is a loser.
Also all it would take is one good DT/DE in the 1st round of the draft to make a great 3-4 front. Rookie DE, Ogunjobi DT, Ogbah DE then Garrett and Avery are the pass rushers. That’s a hell of a front.
Sigh. You mean a guy like Carl Nassib? Or maybe Danny Shelton?
This kind of thinking is why we keep spinning our wheels. “It’s just one or two guys.” Then some of the guys you have don’t make the transition as well as you hoped, and before you know it you have 3 or 4 holes to fill in one off season.
If we even sniff a 3-4 guy, I’ll lose my shit, 2 year old temper tantrum style.
Sigh. You mean a guy like Carl Nassib? Or maybe Danny Shelton?
I’m pretty sure I used the word ‘good’. Perhaps I should have strung a few more words in there to be more clear.
Also all it would take is one really fucking good DT/DE in the 1st round of the draft to make a great 3-4 front
The overall point I’m making is that we’ve got a solid core on defense that can be flexible on scheme. I’d like a coach who lines us up in a variety of different ways to create matchup problems.
Sigh. You mean a guy like Carl Nassib? Or maybe Danny Shelton?
I’m pretty sure I used the word ‘good’. Perhaps I should have strung a few more words in there to be more clear.
Also all it would take is one really fucking good DT/DE in the 1st round of the draft to make a great 3-4 front
The overall point I’m making is that we’ve got a solid core on defense that can be flexible on scheme. I’d like a coach who lines us up in a variety of different ways to create matchup problems.Which means entirely new assignements and schemes. Switching to a base 3-4 is a massive mistake of epic proportions. We’d be back to running on ice.
We’d be Jon Gruden. Get rid of Khalil Mack to draft a pass rusher. Get rid of Cooper to draft a #1 WR.
Running multiple fronts is great, doing it from a base 3-4 after getting rid of your 3-4 guys to go 4-3 is asinine
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I’m not talking about running the team in a 3-4 constantly. I’m saying that we are one stud away from being able to switch to it when needed and providing one hell of a flexible front. And that studly DT would also help us out in our 4-3 base as well.
I’m not looking to change the whole look of the defense, I’m saying we could run multiple looks because of the personnel we already have. I’m pretty sure I said that very clearly, I think @Soup didn’t read the last paragraph of my prior post.
I’m not talking about running the team in a 3-4 constantly. I’m saying that we are one stud away from being able to switch to it when needed and providing one hell of a flexible front. And that studly DT would also help us out in our 4-3 base as well.
I’m not looking to change the whole look of the defense, I’m saying we could run multiple looks because of the personnel we already have. I’m pretty sure I said that very clearly, I think @soup didn’t read the last paragraph of my prior post.I get you now. I agree being flexible and having a variety of looks is good, but I also agree with Soup that we should stick with the base 4-3. Which, either way I agree we need a DT.
I’m just sick of the switching back and forth and watching Jabaal sheard and Phil Taylor get replaced by Shelton and Nassib and Orchard who get replaced by Garret and Ogunjobi and on and on, and it has nothing to do with their talent level and everything to do with constantly changing schemes.
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