Horton, Saunders and others round out Jackson's staff

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  • #3905
    MDP Sack Attack
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    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/01/browns_finalizing_deal_for_ray.html#incart_2box

    Good to see he’s backing up his decision to call his own pays by bringing in a few experienced minds to help on the offensive side. That shows me a lot of maturity and humbleness.

    #3908
    BillWunkle
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    So . . . we get to hear more about “big guys that can run and little guys that can hit”. How marvelous.

    Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!

    #3909
    Ice
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    I’m just thrilled that we have a staff filled with names of people I recognize. It turns out being Pettine’s best friend does not qualify someone to run a defense. Who knew?

    #3911
    soup
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    Love that Horton is back. I understand we had Q4 meltdowns, however – he had 1 year:

    2012 (Pat Shurmer) 23rd in total defense
    2013 (RAY HORTON) – 9th in total defense
    2014 (Mike Pettine) – 23rd in total defense
    2015 (Mike Pettine) – 27th in total defense

    Which one of these is not like the other?

    As long as Kirby Wilson and Hue Jackson do their jobs and pound the ball – we have a shot at being a decent team next year.

    Freedom!!!

    #3912
    MDP Sack Attack
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    I’m just thrilled that we have a staff filled with names of people I recognize. It turns out being Pettine’s best friend does not qualify someone to run a defense. Who knew?

    I’m just glad he’s not going Pat “It’s all good, I’ve got this” Shurmer style with the offense.

    #3917
    DawgPoundDude
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    You ask me, it would be very difficult putting together a staff like this. There’s a lot of experience here. I honestly can say that Hue is at the least getting his hands on the best available guys.

    Suddenly, next year doesn’t seem so bad.

    #3920
    Shooter
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    Suddenly, next year doesn’t seem so bad.

    A quick glance at the roster should help change your mind lol.

    #3925
    MDP Sack Attack
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    If Hue doesn’t do a good job selling his vision to our veteran free agents, this roster will look a LOT worse in a few weeks. Like, wistful for Mitchell Schwartz worse.

    #3926
    DawgSoldier
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    I always held scoring Defense Soup a BETTER barometer of success than total defense as points win the game not yards.

    http://cloudassetserver.com/STL/posts/185/sp_04_976x0.jpg

    #3928
    Shooter
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    Mack is gone.

    Aside from an epic, “holy shit he just did that!” Jedi Mind trick, Mack is gone.

    If the Browns have a heart or in any way are merciful, Thomas is gone.

    Who really gives a shit about Schwartz? That’s not really much of a loss.

    The entire O-line is going to have to be revamped. The nerds in the rooms upstairs have their hands full.

    #3930
    soup
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    Mack is gone.
    Aside from an epic, “holy shit he just did that!” Jedi Mind trick, Mack is gone.
    If the Browns have a heart or in any way are merciful, Thomas is gone.
    Who really gives a shit about Schwartz? That’s not really much of a loss.
    The entire O-line is going to have to be revamped. The nerds in the rooms upstairs have their hands full.

    If we trade Thomas then the entire staff should be fired. Screw mercy. He’s the best LT in the game and a HOF player. Our biggest downfall is that we create holes to fill.

    Under Horton Haden was a pro bowler. Under O’Neil he wasn’t even a top 32 CB in the NFL. Horton cab coach. He puts guys where best suited. I have no reservations about this staff.

    Freedom!!!

    #3931
    the dude
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    .
    Our biggest downfall is that we create holes to fill.

    This is a saying the Browns fans use every draft – holes to fill. I think this a really poor way of looking at things and talent. Instead of “filling holes” as we are one big hole, we need to focus more on coaching up the talent that we have.

    Every player in the NFL is an elite athlete. What you do with those elite athletes is the different of winning and losing.

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #3932
    soup
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    . Our biggest downfall is that we create holes to fill.

    This is a saying the Browns fans use every draft – holes to fill. I think this a really poor way of looking at things and talent. Instead of “filling holes” as we are one big hole, we need to focus more on coaching up the talent that we have.
    Every player in the NFL is an elite athlete. What you do with those elite athletes is the different of winning and losing.

    Completely agree. You also can’t dump a HOF player then use a pick to replace him. That’s the issue I refer to. Like letting Sheard walk and picking Orchard. Made no sense. Of course they under utilized Sheard. 2 sacks last year. NE who uses him properly – 8 sacks.

    Freedom!!!

    #3944
    DawgPoundDude
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    Completely agree. You also can’t dump a HOF player then use a pick to replace him. That’s the issue I refer to. Like letting Sheard walk and picking Orchard. Made no sense. Of course they under utilized Sheard. 2 sacks last year. NE who uses him properly – 8 sacks.

    Yeah, Farmer put it to this team pretty good. And while I was initially all for keeping Pettine for continuity, I gotta say we’ve upgraded the coaching staff in every way.

    It’s this new front office system that has me worried. That, and Haslam’s patience with said system.

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