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Wyoming QB Josh Allen passes the eyeball test – until he starts throwing
Pat Forde
Yahoo SportsJanuary 24, 2018MOBILE, Ala. — Josh Allen aced the morning here at the Senior Bowl on Tuesday.
He was measured at 6-foot-4 and 7/8 inches. He weighed in at 237 pounds. His right hand is 10 1/8 inches. Those are all great numbers for an NFL quarterback.
Later, Allen was a gracious, polite and patient interview subject. The Wyoming graduate shook a lot of hands, looked people in the eye and remembered names. He was charming with the child reporter who interviewed him. He diplomatically answered questions about the terrifying possibility of becoming a Cleveland Brown. He did not treat the interview session like an ordeal.
Unfortunately for Allen, the day didn’t end there. Tuesday afternoon, there was practice. And let’s just say that he did very little to dispel concerns about his ability to throw the football accurately.
With receivers running routes against air, Allen’s first pass sailed about five yards over the head of Wisconsin tight end Troy Fumagalli. Other passes went awry thereafter, in a scrimmage situation. There were some impressive throws that showcased Allen’s big arm, but also some short tosses with way too much velocity that receivers could not hang onto.
And all that came with Denver Broncos general manager and vice president John Elway, in possession of the fifth pick in the draft, standing at the 50-yard line watching. And with fellow Hall of Fame quarterback Dan Marino at his side. And with representatives of every NFL team looking on from the sidelines or the stands at Ladd-Peebles Stadium.
On a day of generally uninspiring quarterbacking at the Senior Bowl, Allen’s first on-field impression left a lot to be desired. And he knew it.
“It was OK,” he said. “I had a few easy misses. You knew it was going to be ugly the first day, learning the timing of new receivers. Tomorrow will be better.”
It needs to be, if Allen hopes to live up to the somewhat lazy NFL billing as The Next Carson Wentz. Some are worried he might be closer to The Next Ryan Mallett — a big guy with a big arm who passes the look test but not the actual playing test.
“He’s the perfect decoy,” said private quarterback coach Rich Bartel, who was in the stadium watching Tuesday. Bartel suspects Allen’s prodigious measurables will seduce NFL execs to the point that they overlook his biggest flaw: He has never been a very accurate passer.
Allen ranked 83rd nationally in completion percentage in 2017, at just 56.3 percent. His pass efficiency rating ranked 73rd. In 2016, his only previous season of appreciable playing time, he completed 56 percent of his throws.
Then there are his numbers in Wyoming’s games against opponents from Power Five conferences. Facing Iowa and Oregon in 2017 and Nebraska in ’16, Allen was 48 of 96 for 427 yards, with one touchdown and eight interceptions. Disastrous numbers.
Bartel pointed out that quarterbacks who come into the NFL with accuracy issues don’t tend to improve dramatically — they are who they are. And with the smaller windows in which to throw passes, that problem becomes magnified.
Senior Bowl executive director Phil Savage said NFL scouts wanted to evaluate Allen this week “from the neck up.” They wanted to see his intangibles and leadership ability.
“He looks like an NFL quarterback,” Savage said.
Looks can, of course, be deceiving.
Allen comes with a compelling backstory. He was raised on the family farm in Firebaugh, California, a town of about 7,500 that is 20 miles from the nearest freeway. He went to sleep every night with a San Francisco 49ers football in his arms, and his dad threw him passes in the living room while they watched “Monday Night Football.” Love of the sport coursed through his veins.
“This is the only thing I’ve ever wanted to do,” Allen said Tuesday.
But few college coaches were interested in helping him do it. Allen went largely unrecruited in high school, including nearby Fresno State, and opted for junior college. From there he went to Wyoming to play for Craig Bohl, the guy who coached Wentz at FCS power North Dakota State.
Given his size and physical tools — Allen said he has thrown the ball as far as 82 yards in practice — and the ties to Bohl, people were eager to plug Allen into the Wentz mold. It’s not an exact fit, but the two did talk last year about whether Allen should enter the 2017 NFL draft.
Just 20 years old at the time, Allen was concerned that he didn’t have the maturity to lead a team of older men.
“If you’re not mentally ready,” he said, “it will eat you alive.”
Josh Allen told a Cleveland radio station: “If I’m fortunate enough to become a Cleveland Brown, you can expect everything from me. I want to be the guy that turns around the Cleveland Browns. The guy that does that is going to be immortalized in Cleveland forever.” (AP)
Now at the ripe old age of 21, Allen figures he’s ready. He graduated in December to commit himself to the draft process, and moved to California to train under quarterback guru Jordan Palmer. (He’s sharing a house with USC quarterback and draft competitor Sam Darnold.) And unlike a lot of players who declined Senior Bowl offers or pulled out of the game, Allen seems genuinely happy to be here.“I’m the ultimate competitor,” he said. “I’m not going to bow down to anybody, not going to back away from anybody. … Coming from Wyoming, I think people wanted to see me play against some quote-unquote better competition. I want [NFL execs] to walk away thinking, ‘That could be our guy, should be our guy.’”
Most of those who watched Senior Bowl practice Tuesday probably did not come away with that thought in mind. But Wednesday is another day, and another chance for Josh Allen to ace the on-field
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I’d say it’s pretty damn simple: don’t waste a 1st on him if he doesn’t improve. Granted, it’s Day 1 of practice with unfamiliar players, but yeah, judging thus far, I would say he still has much to prove if he wants to go early.
I’m sure it doesn’t help that O’Brien is the one coaching him either.
the 1st day always looks looks like that. Go back and look at Wentz’s 1st day at the semior bowl.
The WR’s aren’t precisely sure where they are supposed to be and nether are the QB’s as they have never worked together and it’s a new play book as well.
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the 1st day always looks looks like that. Go back and look at Wentz’s 1st day at the semior bowl.
The WR’s aren’t precisely sure where they are supposed to be and nether are the QB’s as they have never worked together and it’s a new play book as well.We’ll see how the week progresses. Disclaimer before my next statement: I don’t want Mayfield.
That said reports are that he lit it up with accuracy and timing at practice day 1. So while things are new for all QBs one displayed no accuracy and the other a ton of it in the same situation.
Again, we’ll see how practice progresses. Obviously QB is our #1 need so when we find things on them they’ll be posted here.
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We already have Josh Allen on the roster in Kizer. If accuracy can be fixed there’s no reason to waste a top pick on Allen.
We already have Josh Allen on the roster in Kizer. If accuracy can be fixed there’s no reason to waste a top pick on Allen.
at a minimum Allen is somewhere between 1.5 &2 times the athlete and thrower Kizer is.
Allen can do Madden Video Game Level stuff on the run throwing the ball.
Kiper and Mcshay both have said Allen can make throws that no QB in the league can.
The kids God given talent are credulous and far surpass Kizer’s.
That said if shows himself to be inaccurate at the Senior Bowl I am all in on Darnold.
On the other Hand if he shows himself to be accurate.
You may end up with a RARE occurrence. Myself, DawgStyle and Wunkle agreeing about a QB prospect.
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According to reports off Twitter from today, he can’t hit the broad side of a barn. Throwing ints and missing tons of people still.
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Fantastic snadbagging by Allen.
This will drive up the value of the others ensuring that the Browns can take Barkley at 1, then still come back and take Allen at 4.
I hope he throws 4 picks during the game.
We already have Josh Allen on the roster in Kizer.
I think that’s pretty disrespectful to Allen. I’m willing to bet that there is a handful of things that Allen is far superior to Kizer at. Like knowing how to play football, counting, knowing who is and isn’t on your team…..stuff like that.
Not to mention I’d also like to think that when he’s out on the field playing football, he’s actually thinking about football. Unlike Kizer, who’s out there pondering the mysteries of the universe like why the Maya disappeared and how the pyramids were really built instead of watching the defense. Or his teammates. Or down and distance markers. Anything really that has to do with football while actually out on the field.
I’d find it fascinating if Allen is the same level of dopey, clueless idiot.
According to reports off Twitter from today, he can’t hit the broad side of a barn. Throwing ints and missing tons of people still.
Not that your wrong but I have seen tweets from both perspectives saying he did will and others saying he didn’t…..
Best comment I saw had 2 differing quotes on Allen and said it must be draft season. Made me LOL.
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Reports I read said that Allen had a shit day yesterday. Missed receivers and had no touch on passes. Allen blamed it on being the first day and says it’ll get better going forward.
According to reports off Twitter from today, he can’t hit the broad side of a barn. Throwing ints and missing tons of people still.
Not that your wrong but I have seen tweets from both perspectives saying he did will and others saying he didn’t…..
Best comment I saw had 2 differing quotes on Allen and said it must be draft season. Made me LOL.Lol. I saw a couple raves on deep throws, and the rest trashed him to no end including a video with no rush, him completely missing a massive net. Not just the hole he was aiming for, but the entire net. Ine tweet said at least 4 overthrows.
It’s definitely draft season! If we take his m, I have a lot more faith n Dorsey and Highsmith than I ever did I’ve the baseball guy and the lawyer.
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Reports I read said that Allen had a shit day yesterday. Missed receivers and had no touch on passes. Allen blamed it on being the first day and says it’ll get better going forward.
Search “Josh Allen” on Twitter and tons of things from today pop up. The majority is major bashing.
The funniest thing I read was from a few days ago to paraphrased:
1. You can see why a GM will take Allen 1st round.
2. You can see why that GM and staff fired in a year.
Lol. As another tweet said – he’s the biggest boom or bust prospect in the draft
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The video of McShay’s comments is spot on from what I read so far.
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I’m starting I feel like Allen is the qb equivalent of the Family Guy “mystery box.”
As in “you can have the great qb prospect, or you can have the mystery box.”
“Well, a great qb prospect is just a great qb prospect, but the mystery box, that could be anything! It could even be a great qb prospect, you know how much we’ve wanted one of those!”
Tis is where I see h complete Kizer in him. A couple of – how in the hell did he do thatthrows? With the old adage – IF we can fix the rest he’ll be the best ever! The rest involves being way off target and never gets corrected.:
Wyoming quarterback Josh Allen again started practice with inaccurate tosses against air, which isn’t a major problem, because he’s throwing to receivers with whom he’s not familiar. Happens to many signal callers at the Senior Bowl and Combine. Soon thereafter, Allen redeemed himself with two ridiculous touchdown passes in one-on-one drills. Both came from the 40-yard line, drove through the slight wind and were perfectly accurate. The first score was a dime to Iowa State wideout Allen Lazard. The second touchdown was to Colorado State wideout Michael Gallup. However, Allen’s accuracy issues resurfaced in team drills with a variety of errant passes, one of which was an overthrow that resulted in an interception.
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As a quick reference I spot checked 1st round QB’s all the way back to Peyton Manning (with the exception of including Drew Brees). I probably checked 10 guys. Only 2 improved on their college completion % for their career. Peyton Manning went from 62-65% and Brees went from 61-66%. Everyone else went down. Take it with a grain of salt – but that’s why Rosen scares me so much. That 56% mixed with some of these practice throws I’ve seen and it doesn’t bode well for a bright future. Two “How in the hell did he make that throw” throws per game isn’t worth the other “What the hell was he thinking??? That guy was wide open – how’d he miss it!” throws per game.
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I have heard the idea postulated that his accuracy issues are because his footwork is crap. As he over strides and doesn’t take uniform steps and is herky jerky in his lower body mechanics.
“”IF”” thats true fixing his footwork mechanics “”SHOULD”” fix his accuracy.
I know from teaching marching as well as rifle marksmanship that even the most graceless among us can be taught how to be mechanically repetitive so that the results are constant.
It’s not like Wyoming had top flight coaches. Take Wentz year 1 to Year 2 in the jump he had after he cleaned up some of his mechanics and had pro coaching.
The level of coaching disparity Allen has had and will get in the NFL has yet to be actually discussed. Especially as it pertains to the topic you brought up soup.
Food for thought.
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Those are excellent points. The one caution I’d throw at the Wentz comparison was he was over 60% in college (I think he was 62%). Allen is at a while different level at that 56%.
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In the video Mayock explains the infamous miss on the net that Allen threw.
The net has 3 square hole arranged in a diagonal line. He was told to throw it in the top hole and missed by a foot. While not a great throw it’s not egregious as twitter would lead you to believe according to Mayock.
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I knew what and where he was aiming, but in that situation he should hit the net 100% of the time. Missing that square wasn’t the issue. That throw was like Wild Thing before he got his glasses.
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I admit, I was pretty impressed watching one of his highlight clips on Youtube. I get what the Allen guys like about him. But to me, I don’t see his accuracy improving all that much as a pro. For me, it’s Mayfield (I’m in the minority on that, I know) or Darnold.
Personality goes a long way with me. Rosen and Mayfield are two incredibly cocky, arrogant asses. I’ve already seen that show here before with Johnny, I don’t care to see it again. Confidence is fantastic, constantly peacocking around because you know you’re the best ever is not. Arrogant pricks don’t handle failure or struggling well at all, and if success isn’t immediate the pouting begins and poor play follows right behind it.
Darnold and Allen seem to be far more humble than Rosen or Mayfield. I’ll take the “aw shucks” kid over the “pick me and let’s go wreck this league” kid every time.
It’s an important attribute to consider.
Personality goes a long way with me. Rosen and Mayfield are two incredibly cocky, arrogant asses. I’ve already seen that show here before with Johnny, I don’t care to see it again. Confidence is fantastic, constantly peacocking around because you know you’re the best ever is not. Arrogant pricks don’t handle failure or struggling well at all, and if success isn’t immediate the pouting begins and poor play follows right behind it.
Darnold and Allen seem to be far more humble than Rosen or Mayfield. I’ll take the “aw shucks” kid over the “pick me and let’s go wreck this league” kid every time.
It’s an important attribute to consider.Big Ben is the most arrogant QB in the league and he has 2 rings.
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Big Ben is the most arrogant QB in the league and he has 2 rings.
Tom Brady has turned into quite an asshole too.
I’m not saying there aren’t exceptions to the rule, I’m just saying that more often than not the guy with quiet confidence has more success than the guy who struts about like the cock of the roost.
Arrogant QB’s rarely go far. People like that are quick to blame others, accept little responsibility of their own, react poorly to failure and don’t take very well to criticism. Ben and Brady have been able to avoid acting this way in spite of their arrogance. (Mostly because for both of them, they spent the first half of their careers shutting up and doing what they were told). And in Brady’s case, he was a hard-working well-liked guy until about ring #3. Besides it’s kind of difficult to not walk around like your shit doesn’t stink when you’re headed to Superbowl #7.
All I’m saying is that there are a lot more Ryan Leafs and Akili Smiths than there are Bens and Bradys. There’s also a reason why guys like the Mannings, Rodgers, Brees, and Flacco’s have rings and guys like Michael Vick, Phillip Rivers, Cam Newton, Jay Cutler and Jameis Winston don’t.
Jay Cutler and Cam Newton should have way more rings than Ben and Brady because they have far more natural ability than them, but they don’t even have 1 because they’re arrogant pricks that know way more than their coaches and teammates and pout like petulant children when things don’t go their way.
I don’t want a personality like Cam Newton, or Cutler or Phillip Rivers on my team. There’s a reason they don’t win, and it isn’t talent. It’s attitude.
Darnold and Allen seem to be far more humble than Rosen or Mayfield. I’ll take the “aw shucks” kid over the “pick me and let’s go wreck this league” kid every time.
Give me the one who is the best QB. Arrogance (or lack of it) is not nearly as important as skill.
I’d take this ALL DAY
If we’re winning games.The best 2 guys out of the bi 12 in the last 10 years are what Tannehill & Bradford yeah okay…passs
BTW Iam well aware I wass a Tannehill fan. But I said he’d be better than RG3 and his record isn’t that much different than lucks.
Darnold or Allen after that nope
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The best 2 guys out of the bi 12 in the last 10 years are what Tannehill & Bradford yeah okay…passs
BTW Iam well aware I wass a Tannehill fan. But I said he’d be better than RG3 and his record isn’t that much different than lucks.
Darnold or Allen after that nopeBradford would be great if he didn’t get injured when he bends over to tie his shoelaces.
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Well Bradford will likely be available so there ya go
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I’d take this ALL DAY
If we’re winning games.
I guess that’s the point I’m trying to make, guys like that aren’t known for winning.
Well Bradford will likely be available so there ya go
Don’t want him because he’ll injure his arm and end up on IR for the year putting down the pen from signing his contract
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I’m hearing more and more that Dorsey is becoming enamored with Mayfield.
I’m going to be irate if he drafts Mayfield #1 overall.
on Allen. Heres the best comparison I have found though Allen is a better athlete.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/matthew-stafford-1.html
56% career passer at Georgiahttp://www.nfl.com/player/matthewstafford/79860/careerstats
in the NFL he is a 62% career passerIf Stafford was FA there isn’t a Browns fan that wouldn’t want the FO to back up the Brinx truck.
BTW for those don’t remember or want to google it Stafford was taken 1st overall as well.
The next thing folks usually say is well what has Stafford won. The same thing as AP till he had Brett Farve.
You put Allen with Barkley with coleman gordon njokuu devalve and doook and sprinkle in some pryor from FA.
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I’m hearing more and more that Dorsey is becoming enamored with Mayfield.
I’m going to be irate if he drafts Mayfield #1 overall.He could just be trying to drum interest son he can auction off pick 4 after he takes the guy he wants at 1. It would be a very art of the deal Trumpian like move.
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Personality goes a long way with me. Rosen and Mayfield are two incredibly cocky, arrogant asses. I’ve already seen that show here before with Johnny, I don’t care to see it again. Confidence is fantastic, constantly peacocking around because you know you’re the best ever is not. Arrogant pricks don’t handle failure or struggling well at all, and if success isn’t immediate the pouting begins and poor play follows right behind it.
Darnold and Allen seem to be far more humble than Rosen or Mayfield. I’ll take the “aw shucks” kid over the “pick me and let’s go wreck this league” kid every time.
It’s an important attribute to consider.Funny, by your own standards, you would disqualify yourself just based on personality.
Not that I disagree with you at all on this subject.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
I’m hearing more and more that Dorsey is becoming enamored with Mayfield.
I’m going to be irate if he drafts Mayfield #1 overall.Probably 4….that leaves a lot of open possibilities of number 1….maybe big trade?
Hue Jackson is a loser.
It turns out those rumors of Dorsey loving Mayfield came from where most draft rumors come from; a reporter throwing shit at a wall hoping it sticks. I’m too lazy to look it up, but this stems from some reporter saying that Mayfield is the TYPE of QB that Dorsey loves. Then the shit starts piling up and soon people are reporting that Mayfield IS the QB Dorsey loves. It’s all based on nothing.
on Allen. Heres the best comparison I have found though Allen is a better athlete.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/matthew-stafford-1.html
56% career passer at Georgia
http://www.nfl.com/player/matthewstafford/79860/careerstats
in the NFL he is a 62% career passer
If Stafford was FA there isn’t a Browns fan that wouldn’t want the FO to back up the Brinx truck.
BTW for those don’t remember or want to google it Stafford was taken 1st overall as well.
The next thing folks usually say is well what has Stafford won. The same thing as AP till he had Brett Farve.
You put Allen with Barkley with coleman gordon njokuu devalve and doook and sprinkle in some pryor from FA.Good find. The only thing I can see there is in his final year he was over 60%. that said – he was 57% for his career so he improved drastically. Whoever we pick – better be right. If it’s Allen, he better come with an Alex Smith to keep him on the bench a couple years.
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It turns out those rumors of Dorsey loving Mayfield came from where most draft rumors come from; a reporter throwing shit at a wall hoping it sticks. I’m too lazy to look it up, but this stems from some reporter saying that Mayfield is the TYPE of QB that Dorsey loves. Then the shit starts piling up and soon people are reporting that Mayfield IS the QB Dorsey loves. It’s all based on nothing.
Yep, it was an unnamed source who said dorsey loves the type of QB’s like Mayfield. It’s pure absurdity.
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on Allen. Heres the best comparison I have found though Allen is a better athlete.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/matthew-stafford-1.html
56% career passer at Georgia
http://www.nfl.com/player/matthewstafford/79860/careerstats
in the NFL he is a 62% career passer
If Stafford was FA there isn’t a Browns fan that wouldn’t want the FO to back up the Brinx truck.
BTW for those don’t remember or want to google it Stafford was taken 1st overall as well.
The next thing folks usually say is well what has Stafford won. The same thing as AP till he had Brett Farve.
You put Allen with Barkley with coleman gordon njokuu devalve and doook and sprinkle in some pryor from FA.Good find. The only thing I can see there is in his final year he was over 60%. that said – he was 57% for his career so he improved drastically. Whoever we pick – better be right. If it’s Allen, he better come with an Alex Smith to keep him on the bench a couple years.
I used College Career and NFL career stats be cause the big question: Is can he improve and be consistent?
Mathew Stafford to me is a very similar case that shows the possibility of this happening and it not being a stretch….well at least in my opinion.
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Look at the Senior Bowl game film. Admittedly, he had a slow start where he was something like 3 of his first 8 throws; but turned it on later in the game to include 2 TD passes – one of which was perfectly thrown with a LB covering the TE like stink on crap. When this kid is on, he’s incredible. Is he streaky? Perhaps, but working out the kinks in his footwork can and will fix the issue.
I think the slow start in the beginning of the practice week was more a matter of him getting to know an entirely new group of receivers. Give him time and this kid will kill the opposing defense. Make him move out of the pocket and he can kill you with the deep ball as well. Call me crazy if you like, but I like the kid; and he won’t do anything to embarrass the organization when he’s off the field either. He’s spent the last 2 seasons in a pro style offense – much like Carson Wentz did at ND State. In fact, it’s the exact same system. I’m not saying that he’s the next Carson Wentz, but the physical attributes and style of offense lend to those comparisons. I’ll be interested to see how the combine shakes out with all the QB’s, not just Josh Allen.
Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
Funny, by your own standards, you would disqualify yourself just based on personality.
I’m not arrogant at all. I’m just fucking awesome and I know it. Big difference.
I’m also not trying to be the starting QB for the Browns.
It’s all based on nothing.
It better be.
If it’s Allen, he better come with an Alex Smith to keep him on the bench a couple years.
This is exactly the plan that I hope for.
I stand corrected. Allen was 2 of 5, not 3 of 8.
Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
I prefer Mayfield to Allen. We already have Allen on the roster. Mayfield at least is a winner. Allen looked scared to death the entire game.
I prefer Mayfield to Allen.
I’ve seen that movie. While the jump passes were fun and Andre Davis’ 99 yard TD was pretty cool, I don’t care to watch it again.
I prefer Mayfield to Allen. We already have Allen on the roster. Mayfield at least is a winner. Allen looked scared to death the entire game.
Don’t go full Soup on us…never go full Soup.
DA and Flaco aren’t the same player though they are similar.
Jamarcus Russel Cam Newton Logan Thomas snd Cardale Jones aren’t the same player ether though they were similar prospects.
Bottom line don’t mistake similar for the SAME.
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I prefer Mayfield to Allen.
I’ve seen that movie. While the jump passes were fun and Andre Davis’ 99 yard TD was pretty cool, I don’t care to watch it again.
I was at that 99 yard TD game. Unbelevabke moment. One of the few good memories I’ve made in that stadium. Of course, I also went to the season opener in 2007, so that more than cancels out the feel goods.
We already have Josh Allen on the roster in Kizer. If accuracy can be fixed there’s no reason to waste a top pick on Allen.
Should have kept Kizer I guess
Hue Jackson is a loser.
No hate on Baker but I think Allen is the better QB after 3 years
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Definitely so far, but with the growth Baker has shown this year, I’m excited to see how he improves when he finally has the same system two years in a row.
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Definitely so far, but with the growth Baker has shown this year, I’m excited to see how he improves when he finally has the same system two years in a row.
I don’t disagree on Bakers improvement. And am excited for year 2 under KS. PERFECT system for Baker in my view.
But Josh IMO will likely always be better QB because he is more physically gifted.
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Maybe, who knows. When Baker puts his mind to something, it seems unwise to doubt him.
What Allen has done, improving his accuracy since college, is remarkable! Almost unheard of.
I don’t disagree on Bakers improvement. And am excited for year 2 under KS. PERFECT system for Baker in my view.
But Josh IMO will likely always be better QB because he is more physically gifted.Damn report button and my fat fingers. Whoops.
Anywho, to play devils advocate, you could have said the same thing about Carson Went the last couple years. Not saying Allen is Wentz, but to say a more physically gifted QB will always be better is ludicrous. That’s like saying Roethlisberfer will always be better than Brees. Doesn’t make any sense. Or, Roethlisger will always be better than Russel Wilson. Doesn’t make sense. And no, I’m not going to go back and fix the spelling on shitbags name.
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