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Desparation move. Haslam more than likely said “you’re fired if you don’t win a game.”
Hue needs to dial it back and start running it again. We refuse to run twice in a row
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I disagree. Before the game it was made clear that Hue told Cody to stretch the field. Kessler continued to play captain check down and I think Hue was trying to send him a message. Kessler is playing too cautious and the yards he has accumulated this season have come in garbage time against prevent defenses in soft coverage. He needs to throw for 300 yards in a win, he needs to throw downfield and he needs to take on a bit more of a “gunslinger” attitude. There’s a reason Hue was looking for a “spark”. 1 INT in all his starts is great game management. 6 TDs is piss poor production. While I’m not ready to cut bait with Kessler just yet, the odds that we take a QB at #1 are increasing. Hue said there could be a potential franchise QB in the upcoming draft and I find that very interesting. They reached on Kessler, and I believe they could reach on another QB at #1 (pointing back to last night and saying “he was always our guy, we knew it back then”).
In terms of what Haslam says, he needs to STFU. Fire Jackson (regardless of our record) and we’ll be longing for the days of Pettine. This roster, while young and improving, is a complete shit show largely devoid of NFL caliber talent. Fire Hue, even if it is completely deserved, and you won’t be able to convince a Pop Warner coach to come to this team. The past sins of our knee jerk Owner means we’re stuck if we ever want a shot at hiring a decent coach in the future. People need time to forget what happened to Chud/Lombardi/Pettine/Farmer and the absolute Charlie Foxtrot we’ve been since Haslam took over. Patience is a virtue. Haslam has no leverage. Imagine what would happen if Haslam tries to play big dick and Hue quit. There wouldn’t be a winning season in Cleveland until we got a new owner and Hue would have a job next season.
This team MIGHT be relevant in 2020 if the next two drafts prove productive. It’s going to be a long, hard road to get there though.
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0He said he wanted a spark.
Yes, Kessler led us on a TD drive, but other than that, that was it. We had 100 yards of offense. 100. That’s abysmal and pathetic.
I’ve stated this multiple times, while I like Kessler, like the way he protects the ball, and I like his accuracy, there’s nothing special about Kessler whatsoever. I’d love to have him here for another 10 years, as a backup. I’d always feel good about Kessler coming into a game, or taking over a stretch of games for an injured starter because I’d have confidence that we could still win. But as a full-time starter? No.
Kessler cannot push the ball downfield. His lack of an arm prevents it. He can’t take any chances with the receivers, they need to be in perfect position or very wide open or he can’t make the completion. That leads to checks-downs, sacks, and throw aways. (the latter of which is actually impressive to see, most rookies don’t know how to throw it away, he seems to be pretty decent at making that decision although there are still some times he holds the ball way too long).
I’ve said it before and I’l say it again, his ceiling is Chad Penninton. If you’re looking for a current comparison, he’s weaker armed version of Alex Smith.
Kessler can dink and dunk very well, and if the ground game is working well he can lead drives and score points. But if the run game is stifled or struggling and the Browns are behind, there’s really nothing that Kessler can do because he doesn’t have any kind of arm throw receivers open, stretch the field, or beat a blitz. Safeties can cheat up on him and linebackers can pin their ears back. He’s just a very conservative QB. he has to be, he doesn’t have the arm to be anything else.
That is just not a long term solution for the Browns. I’ve been saying that for weeks now. I like the kid, I do, but c’mon, 91 yards passing? 100 yards of offense? We’ve skewered QB’s in this town for that type of production and offensive ineptitude.
You have been saying that, now look at the flipside. The gunslinger came in and threw two picks with a total of 3 turnovers. There was nothing open downfield. Baltimore D did the same to Pittsburgh last week. The problem with Kessler right now is Hue is throwing too much with a 3rd round rookie. Putting it all on him. All on a guy who wasn’t supposed to play this year.
AND @dawgstyle, calling Kessler a reach in round 3 Is beyond silly. If he doesn’t end up starter he’s proven he’s a very solid back up. That’s fine use of a 3rd round pick.
Overall right now people are t he owing a kid with 6 starts under the bus. A kid whow finally isn’t killing us with turnovers. A 3rd round rookie throwing to a 1st year Wr and rookie WR isn’t going to be throwing for 300 yards a game with 3 TDS and 1 pick each week. You have to lead up to the deep ball on a team like this. Not force it. When it was there he looked off the safety and dropped a perfect 25 yard pass to the TE for a TD. Forcing down field where no one is open ends in turnovers. Just ask McCown.
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It was clear yesterday that apples to apples, Kessler was better than McCown. It was also clear that Kessler is content to check down way too often.
I’m fine with Hue pulling the QB in order to try and spark the team. The offense was going nowhere, let’s put in the other guy. It turns out that the problems on offense are much bigger than QB. OMG ERVING
I don’t really think I’m throwing him under the bus at all. It’s not like I’m picking the kid apart, and talking about how he sucks, saying he was a wasted pick or has no value to us. That, would be throwing him under the bus.
I’m not doing that and i don’t believe any of that to be true. I like him, and hope that he’s here for a long time because as you mentioned, having a quality backup QB in the NFL is a fantastic luxury to have, and coming at a 3rd round pick is indeed good value.
Are you really gonna play the “it’s on Hue” card now? The offensively minded “QB whisperer”? Come on Soup, you’re better than that. We all know that you have the weird tendency to fall in love with a below average QB (i.e the Charlie Frye incident), but if you’re honest and you use the simple eye test you can clearly see that Kessler is just an average, nothing special but capable QB.
I’m not knocking the guy. I’m not. Having an adequate backup is needed and as I mentioned It’s great to have. But Kessler just isn’t a bona-fide, face-of-the-franchise lead the team to the promised land QB. He’s just not, and he’s not going to be.
It doesn’t mean he doesn’t have talent, or doesn’t have value to us because he very much does.
While I will concede that it is a reach that (at least for the moment) seems to have worked out in our favor, he was widely regarded as a 5th round talent. It happens. Brady wouldn’t have been a reach at #1 overall, however, at the time, based on what was known about him, taking him in the first would have been a colossal mistake. Don’t confuse luck for skill.
As for the rest of your post, I agree. He seems like a very capable back up and I’m happy we spent a third round pick on him, but only if we couldn’t have used our 5th round pick on him and still got him. That’s where you have to look at value in the draft (as a Bills fan, I’m sure you remember when Buffalo took EJ Manuel in the first round). If it works, you’re a genius, if it doesn’t…
Hindsight is 20/20.
As for throwing him under the bus, certainly not. He hasn’t lost us a single game this year. I think the point that I and most others are trying to make though is that he hasn’t won us a game either. We need a QB that can win some games in spite of our roster. Put Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers, Eli Manning, Joe Flacco, Carson Palmer, etc. under center and I would argue that the Browns wouldn’t be winless. Now, they might not have more than 3-4 wins either, but that’s the kind of impact you need from the QB position, the kind of impact Kessler hasn’t shown he can deliver.
I personally think Hue want’s to show Cody that he can just as easily be benched for being too cautious as he can for being reckless. We need to stretch the field so teams pay if they stack the box against us. We have Coleman and Pryor who can win a fair share of contested catches (though they’re yound and still improving). Play action passes, which you and I both love, often utilize deep routes. If your QB can’t (or won’t) capitalize on it, it becomes just as ineffective as when you stop running the football. Back on point though, if Hue didn’t believe in him, I don’t think we see what we saw last night. That was tough love, and hopefully Cody learned the lesson.
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0I don’t really think I’m throwing him under the bus at all. It’s not like I’m picking the kid apart, and talking about how he sucks, saying he was a wasted pick or has no value to us. That, would be throwing him under the bus.
I’m not doing that and i don’t believe any of that to be true. I like him, and hope that he’s here for a long time because as you mentioned, having a quality backup QB in the NFL is a fantastic luxury to have, and coming at a 3rd round compensatory pick is indeed good value.
Are you really gonna play the “it’s on Hue” card now? The offensively minded “QB whisperer”? Come on Soup, you’re better than that. We all know that you have the weird tendency to fall in love with a below average QB (i.e the Charlie Frye incident), but if you’re honest and you use the simple eye test you can clearly see that Kessler is just an average, nothing special but capable QB.
I’m not knocking the guy. I’m not. Having an adequate backup is needed and as I mentioned It’s great to have. But Kessler just isn’t a bona-fide, face-of-the-franchise lead the team to the promised land QB. He’s just not, and he’s not going to be.
It doesn’t mean he doesn’t have talent, or doesn’t have value to us because he very much does.the part I’m throwing on Hue is that in the first half we threw twice as much as we ran. That’s asking too much of a rookie QB. He also had some questionale playcalls for the first time. run for 3 yards, followed pointlessly by a quick throw to Coleman for a 4 yard loss. Why not run it again? Get 2 to 3 yards you have 3rd and managbable. the one thing I’ve really noticed – especially yesterday – is a refusal to run twice in a row. Run on 1st is followed by 2 throws no matter what.
In Hue’s and Kessler’s defense yesterday – 2 3rd downs were unquestionably pass interference that wasn’t called. It’s not like it was a 1st or 2nd down. Next play only option was a punt. You can’t complete passes when the defense is allowde to hit you early. No way around that.
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Excellent points DS.
OMG ERVING
Duuuuuuuuuuuude. What a pussy. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a guy so big get manhandled so easily.
What’s the issue with this guy? Is it mechanics? Is it footwork? Or is he really just a big fucking nancy-boy? Not only does it seem he’s always out of position, when he actually IS in position, he’s equally effective as when he isn’t. He’s getting his QB’s just destroyed. I know people wanna poo-poo McCown’s performance last night, but all of his turnovers came because he had dudes in his face had his arm hit etc, 2 of them were on Erving and 1 was on Thomas (the fumble). It’s like there isn’t even anyone in the middle. That’s beyond unacceptable. He is freaking terrible. Awful.
Hue Jackson is a great coach. He is the best ever. We are doing so much better under him than we have with any other coach of the last 17 years. He is a second coming of Jesus on the bench. [/sheep]
Ray Horton is a proven winner. Ray Horton has continued to be a proven winner in Cleveland. He has made some of the best decisions on our defensive ball. He has the guys tackling and covering great. Best play caller we have besides the offensive genius of Hue Jackson. [/sheep]
Glad everyone in here is so in love with this garbage. Everyone here definitely knows the answer is in Hue and Ray. Great stuff we have been seeing.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
To compare Hue vs Pettines times here is so pointless. I don’t know why you are comparing the two. Firing Jackson doesn’t mean anything. This program is garbage. 0-10. Pettine didn’t go 0-10.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
All of us get what you’re saying, but the reality is all of us disagree with you. We all understand what was/is happening, and most of us have been prepared from the start for what we all knew was going to be a terrible season. I’ve been saying no wins since the beginning.
You don’t want to understand a very important, fundamental concept that the rest of us know, understand, and realize. This was not a rebuild. This was a complete and total teardown. Of the entire organization from the very very top to everything you see on the field, in the locker room, the offices, to the directions on how to use the copier properly.
Veterans, gone. Free Agents. Gone. Busted, useless draft picks from past regimes, gone. Almost our entire roster is made up of rookies and 2nd year players. We are by far the youngest team in the NFL. That, leaves us woefully bereft of talent. Now while you may not agree with that concept, it in no way changes it from being absolutely true. It is. It’s a fact. I don’t care if Beliicheck was running this team, at most they might have a win or two. The coaches and coaching staff can only do so much, and believe me they are doing all that they can with what they have to work with. They are being tasked with a monumentally impossible job right now. We are starting the entire organization completely over from scratch. We are the equivalent of an expansion team, and honestly without any advantages that even an expansion team gets.
Hue Jackson and Ray Horton are solid, sound, fundamental coaches with great ability, and have had success everywhere they have been. I believe, and most of us here do as well, while recognizing that this team really fucking sucks right now at an almost unbearable embarrassing level, there is light at the end of the tunnel and for good reason. As the roster is built, as talent starts to become infused into this team, as we start to spend cap money and get some FA’s in here, as we draft a ridiculous amount of players with the incredible amount af draft picks we have acquired, as the offensive and defensive systems move into their second and even 3rd years, as the players understand their jobs and develop into these systems and have the added bonus of not having to think and can just go play, and as the culture of putrid failure is scrubbed the fuck outta here once and for all, there will be a turnaround. There will be development. There will be success. There will be a legitimate, NFL-caliber, holy-shit-look-at-that real fucking football team, and ultimately, there will be
wins.Now I’m not gonna sit here and argue with you anymore about this because it’s pointless. Your mind isn’t going to be changed and it’s clear that you have no desire whatsoever to realistically look at the factors facing this team and observe things from the longview.
So bitch and gripe and piss and moan all you like, just keep in mind that #1, we’re going still to continue to suck gigantic hairy rhinocerous sack, we’re most likely going to go 0-16, and it’s going to be awful to sit through no matter how much you bitch. And #2, No one is going anywhere, this organization is going to see this through, so once again all your griping is moot, useless, and has no merit. Nor will it.
I suggest just sitting back and watching the plant grow. We just got the seed in the ground, but you want the full blown flower. Maybe you can help fertilize it with all your bullshit.
Well said Shooter. My only disagreement – I don’t believe Hallam is near part enough to let this work. I know we are on the right path.
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My only disagreement – I don’t believe Hallam is near part enough to let this work.
My only real fear.
I don’t trust him. At this point I’m just hoping, hoping, that he sees this through and doesn’t get all Haslamy about shit. I’m trying to find confidence that a man who turned a gas station into a multi-billion dollar corporation can find a way to get a football team to score more points than the other team 10-12 times a season.
I haven’t found it yet, but I’m trying.
I hope the move to St. Louis.
Makes total sense. That way we have no football team. Great idea. Sounds awesome.
This is the part where I tell you to go root for Buffalo.
(Is it just me, or is anyone else feeling like the dude is turning into Steve Buscemi at the end of Armageddon?)
You’re jumping the shark my friend, go watch the Indian Cricket Leage on ESPN the Ocho for about 6 months, then come back to us.
For the record, I don’t want to beat Dude down here.
This shit fucking sucks. This is no fun for anyone. I understand the frustration. We’ve been a joke of a franchise for going on a score here. This is ridiculous to have to put up with.
There’s like 5 of us left. And I don’t mean on this website, I’m talking overall. 5. 5 Browns fans, I think there’s 5. No “Nation” no “backers” no “brownstown”…….I think there’s 5 of us left. Total.
This shit is unspeakable. I have no words to describe what this feels like. I want to be pissed. I want to be angry. I want to feel hatred and throw shit.
I guess I’m just past that point now. I’m just here……..watching.
I know what the Browns used to be. I know the history of the AAFC. I know how the Browns busted into the NFL. I know who Otto Graham is. I know 10 straight championship games and his Hall of Fame career. I know Jim Brown. I know the Cardiac Kids. I know Monday Night Football.
I know Bernie, I know Webster. I know Clay and I know Byner. I know what it’s like to be at a playoff game when the Browns won. I know it because I was there. I was in the stands when we beat the Patriots in 94. I remember the entire stadium breaking out into a “we want Pitts-burgh!” chant.
I know.
At the same time, I’m happy.
I’m happy that this franchise has finally come, after horrible, horrible, attempts tries and recarnations, full circle.
This is fuckin’ brutal.
But it’s Rock Bottom. It is…..the floor. We can’t get any lower. Even for us. Even for the Browns. There is no “yeah ya can” rug to be pulled out from under us. This is it.
I’m still here. And I ain’t goin’ nowhere.
Call me whatever ya like, but I’m here. I’m still here. So are they. I’m not fucking going anywhere. I’m riding this til the end.
All 5 of us.
Dude you are not tearing me up….you can mouth off what ever bullshit you want….I am going to continue to speak my opinion of this team.
I am purely more sick of hearing the excuses – we are young, we are hurt, coaches show potential. Nope – I don’t buy into this garbage. These guys make so much money they are expected to be professionals. These players and coaches are not. Instead, because the media said they would be 0-16, they have accepted the expectation. It is completely wrong and anyone on this board who accepts 0-16 as improvement is completely wrong. Every coach needs to be fired and start over again. 0-16 is the worst of all time. There is no improvement from this point on. No one in upper management should have a job.
Kessler being benched was complete garbage. We were winning the game. Whoever’s decision that was should not be part of this team. If it was ownership meddling back into the program, then they need to sell the team.
So shooter, back to your original rant – what would you rather have a team that goes 0-16 or no team what so ever?
Hue Jackson is a loser.
Easy. An 0-16 team for 1 year that ends up improving in the following years. It’s your own fault you can’t see the truth, no one elses.
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Easy. An 0-16 team for 1 year that ends up improving in the following years. It’s your own fault you can’t see the truth, no one elses.
what do you judge by improvement 1-15?
Hue Jackson is a loser.
Easy. An 0-16 team for 1 year that ends up improving in the following years. It’s your own fault you can’t see the truth, no one elses.
what do you judge by improvement 1-15?
An improvement will be an owner finally giving 5 years to implement a system. If we end up with 12 on IR again then yeah 1-15 is an improvement. As much as I knew Pettine was a failure the moment he got hired, I am on record saying we have to stick with it for 5 years no matter the outcome
I won’t bore you with the truth of why as you’ll just ignore it.
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Since you are so confidant soup in the organization, why don’t you buy season tickets.
so 1-31 and coaches maintain their jobs. cool deal brah.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
Since you are so confidant soup in the organization, why don’t you buy season tickets.
so 1-31 and coaches maintain their jobs. cool deal brah.Because I have a 2 year old and don’t live in Cleveland so it would be impossible to go to all the games. So 10 games in and Hue is 1-31? Did you take math in school?
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Reading was not your strong skill in school. we are talking about him not winning a game this season and winning 1 next year which would make him 1-31.
Would you give him a promotion? You are a big shot, I am sure you could sell the tickets with this successful program. You talk a real big game Soup….but you just can’t walk the talk.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
I don’t buy into this garbage. These guys make so much money they are expected to be professionals.
You keep mentioning this point, and I still get baffled by it.
#1, I’ve already pointed out that these guys get paid dick. You’re acting like we have multiple guys on both sides of the ball that are raking in multi-million dollar deals and that’s just simply not true. Haden and Thomas are getting paid. That’s it man. 2 guys. Literally everyone else is on rookie deals or vet minimums. Say that again however many times you need to to both understand and come to grips with it. If we had signed a bunch of FA’s or rewarded breakout players with huge deals and they were just sucking, I’d be inclined to agree with your point. But considering that NOBODY IS GETTING PAID HUGE MONEY, it’s totally moot, not to mention completely nonsensical. You’re just wrong man, these guy aren’t making “so much money”. At all.
I am purely more sick of hearing the excuses
And you’re just not grasping the difference between an excuse, and a reason. Saying that we don’t have any talent on our team is not an “excuse”, it’s the very simple reason why we suck. Bad players play bad. If we had a bunch of good players, we’d be playing good. This is an even easier concept to latch onto than the previous one. Say it again, with me: “We. Have. Bad. Players.”
It’s the main reason why NONE OF THEM ARE MAKING ANY FUCKING MONEY!!!!!!!!!!
Do you suggest that we should go ahead and ink all of these scrubs to high dollar contracts just so you actually have a valid reason for bitching about them sucking? Dafuq sense does that even make?
We have no depth. We have no players. We got rid of all of them to start over.
This is the equivalent of you waking up in the morning and finding out that your cars engine was taken out. Instead of you understanding that a car can’t drive without an engine, you’re on the phone with the dealer bitching them out because it can’t and saying things like “I don’t care if it doesn’t have a motor, that’s just a shitty excuse, it’s a car and cars should run”. It’s not an excuse that a car doesn’t run without an engine, it’s just a fact that CARS DON’T FUCKING RUN WITHOUT AN ENGINE!!!!!!!! I don’t give a shit how much you paid for the car. It could be a Ferrari. No motor, it’s a NoRunni.
We are a car without a motor. We just gutted it to take into the shop to have it rebuilt. How many races do you think we’re going to win while it’s not actually in the fucking car? Would you guess 0? I’d say 0. 0 seems like solid guess on the number of races you’ll win with a car with no motor. It’s not an excuse, it’s a reason.
So shooter, back to your original rant – what would you rather have a team that goes 0-16 or no team what so ever?
Is that a serious question? The 0-16 team, duh. The 0-16 team can always get better, and in the future win games. The non-existant team can’t, what with all the not existing going on.
Stupid fucking question.
Reading was not your strong skill in school. we are talking about him not winning a game this season and winning 1 next year which would make him 1-31.
Would you give him a promotion? You are a big shot, I am sure you could sell the tickets with this successful program. You talk a real big game Soup….but you just can’t walk the talk.Can’t walk what walk? Because I’m not willing to spend thousands to sit in a car for 5 hours 8 Sundays a year while having a 2 year old?
Would I promote Hue? No, he’s the head coach. I don’t belive in giving head coaches a dual role that includes GM and president.
Let’s say we go 7-9 next year. Would you still want him fired?
Freedom!!!
I am going to try to quote this garbage
I don’t buy into this garbage. These guys make so much money they are expected to be professionals.
You keep mentioning this point, and I still get baffled by it.
#1, I’ve already pointed out that these guys get paid dick. You’re acting like we have multiple guys on both sides of the ball that are raking in multi-million dollar deals and that’s just simply not true. Haden and Thomas are getting paid. That’s it man. 2 guys. Literally everyone else is on rookie deals or vet minimums. Say that again however many times you need to to both understand and come to grips with it. If we had signed a bunch of FA’s or rewarded breakout players with huge deals and they were just sucking, I’d be inclined to agree with your point. But considering that NOBODY IS GETTING PAID HUGE MONEY, it’s totally moot, not to mention completely nonsensical. You’re just wrong man, these guy aren’t making “so much money”. At all.You are not Donald Trump. Stop using the word huge. It is stupid. These guys make more than me and you in 4 games….Its not the maxiumum amount of money in the league….they don’t deserve that….but it doesn’t mean that they ARE NOT AT THE HIGH LEVEL OF PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE AND SHOULD PLAY LIKE THAT. Do you understand.
One more time, do you understand?
You are paid a lot of money – people in the stands, people at home – spend a lot of money to watch you perform and you cannot tackle? Better yet – cam erving – WHAT THE FUCK???????????????????????
I am purely more sick of hearing the excuses
And you’re just not grasping the difference between an excuse, and a reason. Saying that we don’t have any talent on our team is not an “excuse”, it’s the very simple reason why we suck. Bad players play bad. If we had a bunch of good players, we’d be playing good. This is an even easier concept to latch onto than the previous one. Say it again, with me: “We. Have. Bad. Players.”
It’s the main reason why NONE OF THEM ARE MAKING ANY FUCKING MONEY!!!!!!!!!!
Do you suggest that we should go ahead and ink all of these scrubs to high dollar contracts just so you actually have a valid reason for bitching about them sucking? Dafuq sense does that even make?
We have no depth. We have no players. We got rid of all of them to start over.
This is the equivalent of you waking up in the morning and finding out that your cars engine was taken out. Instead of you understanding that a car can’t drive without an engine, you’re on the phone with the dealer bitching them out because it can’t and saying things like “I don’t care if it doesn’t have a motor, that’s just a shitty excuse, it’s a car and cars should run”. It’s not an excuse that a car doesn’t run without an engine, it’s just a fact that CARS DON’T FUCKING RUN WITHOUT AN ENGINE!!!!!!!! I don’t give a shit how much you paid for the car. It could be a Ferrari. No motor, it’s a NoRunni.
We are a car without a motor. We just gutted it to take into the shop to have it rebuilt. How many races do you think we’re going to win while it’s not actually in the fucking car? Would you guess 0? I’d say 0. 0 seems like solid guess on the number of races you’ll win with a car with no motor. It’s not an excuse, it’s a reason.Your gibberish is running worst than our running game. Your reasons are not acceptable. So I challenge you to buy season tickets too. I am sorry for you that you would accept a press conference from Hue Jackson that would go like this:
“Hey fans we appreciate your support today. We tried hard as we could. Glad you spent your hard earned money on us who barely make any money. It really goes deep down inside of us. Do you mind drinking the kool aid and spreading the word that we have REASONS to be 0-16 and by the way don’t call our poor play calling, our poor offseason preparation, or the fact that we have no coverage skills or tackling an EXCUSE!”
I am glad Shooter, you are in that stage of acceptance. I have been there for 17 fucking years and I WILL VOICE MY MOTHER FUCKING OPINION ABOUT IT. Get it brah?
So shooter, back to your original rant – what would you rather have a team that goes 0-16 or no team what so ever?
Is that a serious question? The 0-16 team, duh. The 0-16 team can always get better, and in the future win games. The non-existant team can’t, what with all the not existing going on.
Stupid fucking question.Stupid question? So you would rather waste 4 hours of your weekend watching garbage….might as well be something like swamp people than not have a reason….good for you.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
Can’t walk what walk? Because I’m not willing to spend thousands to sit in a car for 5 hours 8 Sundays a year while having a 2 year old?
Would I promote Hue? No, he’s the head coach. I don’t belive in giving head coaches a dual role that includes GM and president.
Let’s say we go 7-9 next year. Would you still want him fired?You don’t have to bring your child to the games….no one said a big baller like you has too…..come on MOUTH….walk the talk.
If he makes it out of 0-16 with a win, and hey gets 5+ wins next year, I would not fire him. If he goes 1-31, I call Trump and tell him he is here illegally.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
Stupid question?
Yes, it was a stupid question. You just asked a lifelong die-hard Browns fan if he’d rather not have them because right now they’re shitty. That’s a stupid fucking question dude. A really stupid one. The Indians were shitty for 3 decades. I’ve seen them in 3 World Series in the last 21 years. That’s 1 Championship appearance every 7 years on average. Guess what, I’m damn glad to have them. I felt that way in the 80’s when they lost 105 games to set the MLB record for losses in a year. I sure as shit feel that way now.
The Cavs always sucked. Aside from a few flashes in the late 80’s/early 90’s, and again on LeBron’s first tour that fizzled, other than that they were jokes, especially during the Ted Stepian years. 5 short years ago they set the All-Time NBA record for most consecutive losses at 26 in a row. I still wanted my team. Still rooted for my team. Now I have a fucking Championship to brag about forever.
Don’t ever sit here and ask a guy like me a stupid, insulting fucking question like that.
If you’re so pissed, if you hate it so much, if you can’t stand the team, want them to move, and just can’t take it anymore, and just want to spew stupid bullshit, then quit following them. Quit rooting for them. Find a new team and shut the fuck up. You’re griping about being a shitty team as if you think none of us notice that they fucking suck. Thanks for the newsflash bro, maybe with your keen eye for observation and stellar inside scoop skills you should start a media empire.
They suck. We know they suck. We’re tired of them sucking, and we’d all reeeeeeeeeeeally like them to stop sucking.
I can understand being upset about a garbage football team. Ya think I’m enjoying this? It’s embarrassing. This sucks. But I clearly can’t help you see that this isn’t “same ‘ol same ‘ol” and that the Browns are just completely starting over, that things like continuity, solid drafting, and actually executing a long term plan for once are on the horizon in a way that this team has never done before but should have. That this approach is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overdue. That talent deficiency isn’t an excuse, but instead a factual, actual reason. I notice you completely ignored everything else in my post. I even used simple yet clever analogies for you to make it easy. I refuted all of your shtty, whiney points. You responed with nothing, which leads me to believe that all you’re doing is bitching just to bitch.
Shut up about it already.
Christ man.
Can’t walk what walk? Because I’m not willing to spend thousands to sit in a car for 5 hours 8 Sundays a year while having a 2 year old? Would I promote Hue? No, he’s the head coach. I don’t belive in giving head coaches a dual role that includes GM and president. Let’s say we go 7-9 next year. Would you still want him fired?
You don’t have to bring your child to the games….no one said a big baller like you has too…..come on MOUTH….walk the talk.
If he makes it out of 0-16 with a win, and hey gets 5+ wins next year, I would not fire him. If he goes 1-31, I call Trump and tell him he is here illegally.Being away from my son for 9 hours for 8 Sundays isn’t what I’m about. If you think that means I didn’t “walk the walk” then you know nothing about life.
Freedom!!!
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