My attempt at the 55 man roster/depth chart

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  • #18970
    DawgSoldier
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    For those that missed it in March the New CBA agreement bumped up the roster to 55. So I did an even split of 26 for the O and the D and left 3 for ST.

    Offense: 26
    WR1 OBJ, DPJ*, Ratley
    TE1 Hooper, Bryant*, Brown
    LT Wills*, Hubbard
    LG Bitonio, Teller
    C Tretter, Harris*
    RG Forbes
    RT Conklin
    TE2 Njoku, Carlson
    WR2 Landry, Higgins, Natson
    QB Mayfield, Keenum, Gilbert
    RB Chubb, Hunt, Johnson, Hilliard
    FB Janovich

    Defense: 26
    DE1 Garret, Gustin
    DT1 Billings, Ogunjobi
    DT2 Richardson, Elliot*
    DE2 Vernon, Clayborn, Thomas
    WLB Phillips*, Grace
    MLB Taki-Taki, Goodson
    SLB Wilson, Harvey
    CB1 Ward, Mitchell
    NB Johnson, Thomas
    FS Delphit* Redwine
    SS Joseph, Sendajo
    CB2 Williams, Jackson, Olumba

    ST: 3
    LS Hughlett
    P Gillan
    K Seibert

    PR DPJ*
    KR Natson
    *=Rookie

    Thoughts?

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    #18973
    Dawg E. Dawg
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    I don’t see how Kendall Lamm doesn’t make the roster. If I have to take a player, I would say 6 TE’s is too many, even for this offense, and Pharoah Brown gets the boot.

    #18974
    DawgSoldier
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    I don’t see how Kendall Lamm doesn’t make the roster. If I have to take a player, I would say 6 TE’s is too many, even for this offense, and Pharoah Brown gets the boot.

    One I am carrying Hubbard as the swing Tackle. He is btter than Lamm. 2 I am carrying 5 TE’s in a 2 TE offence.

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    #18975
    Dawg E. Dawg
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    Yeah, don’t know where I got 6 from. Whoops. Still, I think Brown goes and Lamm makes it, even with Hubbard. Gilbert and D’Ernest Johnson are other candidates. I doubt we keep 4 RBs and a FB. I get Stefanski likes to run, but that’s a lot of guys back there.

    On the defense, all I’ll say is that linebackers corps….yuck. That leaves a lot to be desired.

    #18976
    DawgSoldier
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    Yeah, don’t know where I got 6 from. Whoops. Still, I think Brown goes and Lamm makes it, even with Hubbard. Gilbert and D’Ernest Johnson are other candidates. I doubt we keep 4 RBs and a FB. I get Stefanski likes to run, but that’s a lot of guys back there.
    On the defense, all I’ll say is that linebackers corps….yuck. That leaves a lot to be desired.

    the reason I did 4 RB’s was for special teams and I had to make 55…..soooo

    As for the LB corps. Yeah free agency and the draft next spring LB likely will be top priority IMO.

    Could Laam make it sure, just depends how many OL thgey wana keep.

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    #18977
    BillWunkle
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    I think Chris Hubbard makes the team because he can play both guards and right tackle. He was a swing player in Pittsburgh and that’s the role that suits him best. As I understand it, the Browns will have Drew Forbes and Wyatt Teller battling it out for the starting RG spot; but don’t be surprised if Hubbard gets some reps there as well. After all, the idea is to have the best five that can work as a unit be your starters. Maybe Hubbard does better working in a more confined space, as opposed to being on an island.

    It’s not inconceivable that Kendall Lamm makes the team as the reserve LT, because the Browns are otherwise screwed if Hubbard has to play any appreciable time at LT – even in two TE passing plays. Yes, that would mean that the Browns carry nine O-linemen, but stranger things have been known to happen.

    Also . . . while not very likely, depending on how much of a special teams contributor Johnny Stanton is, it’s not necessarily a given that the Browns carry only one FB. Granted, with the acquisition of Andy Janovich via trade, his role will likely be as a practice squad player; but this is a new head coach with a new offensive system. We know how our head coach loves the TE position, but this system also requires a fullback much of the time. Stanton already knows the system, so don’t count your chickens just yet. A TE that cannot block in-line and is inconsistent catching the football is of little value in the league in general, let alone one that regularly incorporates two of them on running plays. Possibly one or both FBs can flex to TE. We don’t know for certain.

    Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!

    #18978
    Ice
    Keymaster

    On the defense, all I’ll say is that linebackers corps….yuck. That leaves a lot to be desired.

    A year ago we had one of the better LB groups (on paper). Now we have one of the worst. Wilson didn’t really understand the defense until after Christmas and had to be told his responsibility before every play. Now he’ll be in a new defense with no one to tell him what to do. Takitaki only played defense last year because of injuries, if he’s a starter we’re betting on him making a quantum leap. And then the final starter is a rookie we drafted at the end of the 3rd round.

    There has to be a trade or signing coming because that’s awful.

    #18980
    BrownsFan4Life
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    When Kevin Stefanski was with the Vikings, they carried the following:

    QB 2
    RB 4
    TE 4
    WR 4
    FB 1
    OL 10

    DL 10
    LB 5
    DB 10

    ST 3 (a kicker, punter, and long snapper)

    I thought it was a interesting to see how Minnesota’s GM constructed the roster with Stefanski as OC. It seems like he has the right amount of input on the decisions since they all seem to be on the same page.

    With Stefanski using three WRs on 25 percent of the plays last year in Minnesota, I would expect something similar here. With that being said, I don’t see the benefit of keeping six WRs. If they keep 5 WRs and 3 QBs along with the same numbers at other positions, that would be the 55 man roster.

    What do you think?

    #18981
    Ice
    Keymaster

    Excellent post BF4L. You did research.

    With only 3 WR’s seeing the field on offense I think the 4th WR spot is for development/depth and the 5th (and 6th if present) are mainly for special teams. OBJ, Landry, Higgins, and DPJ are locks to make the team so any other WR’s that want to make it have to do so almost exclusively on special teams. If I’m correct about all that then Priefer will be the one deciding whether we keep 5 or 6 WR’s. That 6th WR will have to bring more to special teams than say an extra LB or FB. Very possible we keep 2 FB’s.

    #18982
    DawgSoldier
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    see what I did was ask myself. Whats the minimum number of starters and reserves does a position need?

    1 Starter plus 1 backup is usually the way I went except for the OL. IMO 3 guys can back up 5.

    After that I tried to go where Talent and or special teams lead me. So every body that ends up as 3rd on the depth chart I expect to play a lot of special teams. And of course some of the back ups that fall 2nd on the depth chart as well will play specdial teams as well.

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    #18991
    BrownsFan4Life
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    Thanks Ice. I had read an article and it stated that Stefanski used the third wide receiver only 25 percent of the time and it made me wonder how The Vikings roster was constructed.

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    DS: I appreciate the time it took for you to come up with your roster. I think it will be interesting to see how it pans out.

    #18997
    DawgSoldier
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    Thanks Ice. I had read an article and it stated that Stefanski used the third wide receiver only 25 percent of the time and it made me wonder how The Vikings roster was constructed.
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    DS: I appreciate the time it took for you to come up with your roster. I think it will be interesting to see how it pans out.

    Thanks BF4L appreciate it. I liked yours too and like the way you came at it. It will be interesting to see how AB & KS construct their roster for sure.

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    #19001
    BrownsFan4Life
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    One thing I know for sure is that there will be at least 1 (probably more) player on the roster who isn’t on the team right now. It happens every year. I would prefer that player to be Clowney but don’t think it will happen.

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