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Officially announced today. That means injured halfway through Q2. Kessler arrives and in Q4 is concussed to enter Mccown for a pick 6
Freedom!!!
I was going to make a thread about RGIII a couple days ago, but I’ll just post my question here. For arguments sake, let’s say he comes in and lights it up for the next four games (unlikely I know). Somehow, we manage a win, maybe even 2. I’m considering this the absolute best case scenario.
Can he be the QB of he future still? What does everybody think? I mean, is it even possible, or are these next four games a waste at QB and it’s just learning time for everybody else?just curious what everybody thinks.
If for 4 games he lights it up then yes, he can be the future. Or at least next year starter to prove it wasn’t a fluke.
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I think that it is near impossible.
The stark reality is that RG3, for all of his talent and athleticism, sucks. Like, bad.
He still can’t read a defense. At all. This was apparent in both the preseason and his lone start. He has no idea how to identify what is happening pre-snap, and post-snap he panics because of it. Often.
He cannot go through progressions. Still, after all his time in the league, he’s a 1-read QB. If his initial target is not open, he does 1 of 2 things. #1, panics. #2, runs. Neither generally end well.
He throws one of the prettiest balls that a player can, and he has a laser, rocket arm. But the biggest issue he has with it is control. He sprays those laser beams all over the field. He’s like Nuke Laloosh from Bull Durham, no one knows where it’s going to go. I think this is still due to him having a janky-ass throwing motion.
He also has no pocket awareness/presence of any kind. For a guy with his ability, he gets hit/sacked waaaaaaaay too often. Yes, I agree the line has much to do with this, but he has more. No way a guy with his athleticism should be getting clobbered the way he does.
That leaves you with a a gifted athletic QB with a cannon arm that can’t read a defense, can’t go through progressions, panics often, is wild with the football (despite what his completion %’s are, it’s a mirage)still always wants to run and is fantastically injury-prone when he does so.
Those 70-yard bombs to Pryor are poetry in motion, no doubt. But the problem is there is almost no other motion of any kind. He can’t sustain drives, can’t move the chains, can’t keep the offense going, and honestly just has no idea what he’s doing out there.
So, no, my answer to the question is no, he has no chance to be the QB of the future.
If we throw 70 yards on every okay and he hits 4 of them we get 28 points. 4 of 40 for 4 TDs and the win!
Freedom!!!
If we throw 70 yards on every okay and he hits 4 of them we get 28 points. 4 of 40 for 4 TDs and the win!
Lol, maybe there is hope after all.
He throws one of the prettiest balls that a player can, and he has a laser, rocket arm. But the biggest issue he has with it is control.
You know who else had control issues? Ricky Fucking Vaughn. We don’t need to draft a new QB, we just need to get RG3 some glasses!
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0We don’t need to draft a new QB, we just need to get RG3 some glasses!
Already tried. Didn’t work lol.
Already tried. Didn’t work lol.
Do you see a skull and crossbones on those glasses?
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0Double post. removed.
Quoted this so you’d know what post I’m referencing without the whole post. But, I basically agree, I don’t think there’s any way in hell that he lights it up.
I want the Browns to do well and win, but I really don’t want RGIII to give us some fools gold that makes Hue think we don’t need a QB in the draft
Do you see a skull and crossbones on those glasses?
I need to get ahold of Zbo to have him photoshop them in hahahahaha
Thanks, don’t need that crap twice!
Feel free to go ahead and refute any of the points that I listed that encompass his suckitude, and I’d be inclined to listen.
The problem is that it’s next to impossible to do. Sure, he’s had some nice stretches here and there where he’s played well, but then that in itself adds yet another issue. Inconsistency.
We don’t need a QB that can play lights out and look like a fucking rock star for 3 straight games, and then turn around and look like a scrub for 5. And RG3 has done just that throughout his career.
That doesn’t get anyone anywhere dude.
Call it crap all ya want, but it doesn’t make it untrue.
I basically agree, I don’t think there’s any way in hell that he lights it up.
I want the Browns to do well and win, but I really don’t want RGIII to give us some fools gold that makes Hue think we don’t need a QB in the draft
I hear ya Dawg E.
Hell yes I want the Browns to do well and win. I’d love to see them go 4-0 over the final 4 games, draft position be damned. But not at the expense of, as you called it, fools gold. Couldn’t agree more.
RG3 would have to go out and play absolutely fucking NUCELAR for 4 straight games to sway me in any way. And when I say nuclear, I mean far beyond stats (even though they as well would have to be spectacular. I’ll get back to that). I’d need to see a total change in the offense. Complete command. I want to see prolonged, sustained drives. I’d want to see 5-6 of them per game, and at least 3-4 that don’t end in settling for field goals. I want to see defense crippling 3rd down conversions. I want to see 1st down, 1st down, 1st down, 1st down, 1st down, 1st down, TD. Move the chains, wear them out, and kill their soul. If the D gets a turnover or forces a 3 and out, make them PAY FOR IT with a backbreaking TD drive. I want to see a defense shredded. I want to see a defense be surgically worked the fuck over. Drive after drive after drive, all game long. I want to not only look like a football team, but a convincing one. One that makes a coordinator go “oh, oh shit we’re in serious trouble right now, we can’t stop him”.
It would take that level of dominance over 4 games to convince me that RG3 is the answer.
Stats? Otherworldy. They would need to be otherwordly. In 4 games I’m talking 12-1400 yards passing, 65% completion percentage, 10-12 TD’s 2-3 picks, and a QB rating well over 100 in every game, and we’d have to win all 4. Don’t care if the defense gives up 38 points. Score 40. Period. No excuses, no bullshit, just go do it. Win.
All of that. For all 4 games.
Maybe, maaaaaaaaaaybe, if that happened, I’d lean a little towards bringing him back next year and seeing how it could play out over the course of full season. But it’d still be weary. because he’s made of balsa wood and cracks like a sand dollar.
If anyone here thinks that that’s possible, hey, more power to ya, I’ll buy you a 6-pack of your favorite beer and fed ex that shit overnight so you can have a few rounds on me if it happens, but I don’t there’s any chance in hell that it does.
@shooter At this point the only thing we need is a fucking win.
Listen, this team better not go winless. They go winless, it will be tough for me to watch anymore. I am serious. This is the worst of worst things that can happen. I know you guys are all about the number 1 pick next year. I don’t care – I can handle only 1 win….but it may be the end of me if they don’t win a game. I have stuck to this forum all year long and have kept on posting. I have been to a game this year and actually going this sunday.
they need to win to keep me as a fan. 1 game. that is all I ask. 1 fucking win.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
they need to win to keep me as a fan. 1 game. that is all I ask. 1 fucking win.
This where we differ.
I too am asking for only 1. But…………if they don’t get it (and I don’t expect them to)……I’ll still be here.I’ll still be here as a fan, and I’ll still be here on this forum.
I’m from Cleveland. I was born and raised there. This is the only team I have ever rooted for, and the ONLY, team I will ever root for.
It’s in my DNA. I don’t have a choice in the matter. This is my team and that’s that. So, as long as they are around, so will I be.
I’m not enjoying myself at all, but I gotta tell ya, when the time comes……….man, it’s fucking great. The Cavs getting it done, holy shit, no words other than “worth the wait”
RG3 lights it up for 4 games I’ll be astonished and ecstatic. Notice that’s a big “if”. I don’t like RG3, but he’s the guy the coaches and front office chose to be the QB and designed the team around.Many people consider the Browns the worst sports franchise in 2 decades. If we’re going to be the worst franchise, lets be the best worst franchise. Let’s go 0-16. Let’s cement it in people’s minds that no one can beat the Browns in losing. We are the best at losing. If we win even one game this year, then we’re just really damn good at losing.
This is the only team I have ever rooted for, and the ONLY, team I will ever root for.
It’s in my DNA. I don’t have a choice in the matter. This is my team and that’s that. So, as long as they are around, so will I be.This right here. This is it in a nut shell.
RG3 lights it up for 4 games I’ll be astonished and ecstatic. Notice that’s a big “if”. I don’t like RG3, but he’s the guy the coaches and front office chose to be the QB and designed the team around.
Many people consider the Browns the worst sports franchise in 2 decades. If we’re going to be the worst franchise, lets be the best worst franchise. Let’s go 0-16. Let’s cement it in people’s minds that no one can beat the Browns in losing. We are the best at losing. If we win even one game this year, then we’re just really damn good at losing.Little misinformation there Ice. They picked RG3 as a 2 year project. Not the guy to build around otherwise you’d have seen a 7 year deal. Not 2.
Freedom!!!
Apparently RG3 just starred in some HGTV show my wife is in love with so now she wants him to be our QB like foreverz.
Apparently RG3 just starred in some HGTV show my wife is in love with so now she wants him to be our QB like foreverz.
Have you mentioned to your wife that when it comes to homes, Griffin is best at destroying them by cheating on his wife, then abandoning her and his baby for a new streamlined piece of ass?
Nothing says “Happy Home” like getting your new girlfriends name tattooed on your arm before you’ve even kicked your wife and kid out of the house!
I’m saving that nugget until a time when she’s really, truly happy with the world. Then I’ll drop it just to see how it affects her.
Because I love her.
RG3 you are our last hope.
Lmao, you were saying?
Something about hope lol?
He’s fucking awful, just like I told you he was, in every way that I told you he was.
RG3 you are our last hope.
Lmao, you were saying?
Something about hope lol?
He’s fucking awful, just like I told you he was, in every way that I told you he was.You know what’s really pathetic? You haven’t even touched on how bad he truly is. And you’ve always hated him. He’s actually worse than you say he is and that’s saying something!
Freedom!!!
What is RG3 starting this week? It sure isn’t playing football. Rehab maybe?
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0Speaking of rehab, Josh Gordon is looking like a GENIUS.
818 mph. 13,723 feet. 3 second burn.
https://youtu.be/hy-3bb1Nqy0And you’ve always hated him. He’s actually worse than you say he is and that’s saying something!
I mean aside from not being able to read a defense in any way shape or form, being a one-read-and-panic QB after the snap, possessing no knowledge of progressions, no pocket presence, being wildly, humorously, and awe-snpiringly inaccurate with his laser beam passes, and generally having no idea how to do anything except get hurt……he’s awesome.
If he can just correct a few of those everythings, and totally reinvent himself from a complete disaster in every category you can check off, he might be able to watch football on TV in the future.
RG3 lights it up for 4 games I’ll be astonished and ecstatic. Notice that’s a big “if”. I don’t like RG3, but he’s the guy the coaches and front office chose to be the QB and designed the team around.- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.