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- January 12, 2020 at 12:26 pm #17881soupParticipant
Per Schefter. So in 2 years finally the worthless Depodesta can be fired.
Oh joy. A guy with 1 year as OC that Kubiak did everything on. Let me guess, he’ll also call his own plays.
Saleh was going to bring 2 key SF guys with him. Now we get Depodesta dream. Maybe Stefanski has a good curve ball.
Cleveland Clowns will finish in 4th
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January 12, 2020 at 12:44 pm #17883soupParticipantJanuary 12, 2020 at 12:50 pm #17884MDP Sack AttackParticipantMaybe he’ll bring Kubiak as OC? Would be the only silver lining, here.
January 12, 2020 at 12:50 pm #17885IceKeymasterVideo soup?
January 12, 2020 at 12:57 pm #17886soupParticipantMaybe he’ll bring Kubiak as OC? Would be the only silver lining, here.
If Kubiak is still under contract in Minnesota they can’t because he’s assistant HC. That would give me hope. Look for Kubiak to go to OC in Minnesota with the assistant HC title still there.
Yay for baseball guys picking coaches!
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January 12, 2020 at 1:20 pm #17887MDP Sack AttackParticipantTwo notes on the Browns' search.
• 49ers DC Robert Saleh made a very real impression on the group. I'm told he made the call harder on the Cleveland brass.
• Patriots OC Josh McDaniels did very well. My sense: the "problem" was he wanted sweeping organizational change.
— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) January 12, 2020
Sounds like McDaniels wanted more change in the organization than the Haslam’s were willing to undertake. He wasn’t my first choice, but my biggest criteria was prior experience, so he was my top choice of what was left.
I can put aside anything and everything about the offense he ran in Minnesota. I just don’t see how Stefanski is equipped to unfuck the shitshow we were left with after last year, especially with a new GM trying to make their mark on this roster. We needed a steady, experienced hand.
January 12, 2020 at 2:15 pm #17888soupParticipantThat means Mcdaniels wanted to fire Depodesta
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January 12, 2020 at 2:35 pm #17889soupParticipantSo they apparently made their choice by who was available first. Just when you think this organization can’t be anymore dysfunctional:
Per MKC:
The #Browns HC search came down to Kevin Stefanski and #49ers Robert Saleh, source tells me. Decision not finalized before their head-to-head matchup yesterday.
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January 12, 2020 at 2:36 pm #17890MDP Sack AttackParticipantEarly favorite for GM is bringing back Andrew Berry. Only the Haslams would look to rebuild a front office which went 1-31.
January 12, 2020 at 2:39 pm #17891soupParticipantEarly favorite for GM is bringing back Andrew Berry. Only the Haslams would look to rebuild a front office which went 1-31.
Remember when he bought the team and I said his goal was to move to England? Not looking so silly now am I?
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January 12, 2020 at 2:48 pm #17894the dudeParticipantJanuary 12, 2020 at 2:49 pm #17895the dudeParticipantEarly favorite for GM is bringing back Andrew Berry. Only the Haslams would look to rebuild a front office which went 1-31.
Remember when he bought the team and I said his goal was to move to England? Not looking so silly now am I?
No more until the puke in the mouth video.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
January 12, 2020 at 3:14 pm #17896MDP Sack AttackParticipantWade Phillips and Bill Callahan’s names have come up as potential coordinators, which would make me feel a lot better.
January 12, 2020 at 4:18 pm #17898IceKeymasterSo they apparently made their choice by who was available first.
Words are hard, huh? It doesn’t say they made their choice based on who won, it just says they were still deciding when the game was being played.
If they were deciding based on who won they would surely pick the winner, right?
January 12, 2020 at 4:34 pm #17899MDP Sack AttackParticipantSo they apparently made their choice by who was available first.
Words are hard, huh? It doesn’t say they made their choice based on who won, it just says they were still deciding when the game was being played.
If they were deciding based on who won they would surely pick the winner, right?The advanced statistics our analytics guys have access to showed that, despite what the “football” guys seem to think, the Vikings actually won.
January 12, 2020 at 4:41 pm #17900soupParticipantSo they apparently made their choice by who was available first.
Words are hard, huh? It doesn’t say they made their choice based on who won, it just says they were still deciding when the game was being played.
If they were deciding based on who won they would surely pick the winner, right?Not at all. We are talking about Haslam
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January 12, 2020 at 6:11 pm #17901MDP Sack AttackParticipantPositives: Stefanski favors the run game, play action, and short/medium passes. That definitely suits our roster, especially if we can’t fix our offensive line all in one year
January 12, 2020 at 7:18 pm #17902soupParticipantPositives: Stefanski favors the run game, play action, and short/medium passes. That definitely suits our roster, especially if we can’t fix our offensive line all in one year
You’re assuming he brings the same philosophy Kubiak has (the architect behind this year). That’s a tall order. My head will explode when he states he’ll be calling his own plays.
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January 12, 2020 at 7:33 pm #17903soupParticipantShort version of the MKC article:
Wilks was going to be Stefanskis DC last year with us.
Browns love Salehs leadership (you know, the big go part of being a head coach) but loved how Keenum and Cousins performed under him as QB coach. You know, because in 2018 cousins completed 454 passes in 606 attempts (as a point of reference that’s 70 more passes than Baker this year).
Their offense was heavy pass until Kubiak came into the fold in 2019.
Playoffs on the line in 2018 33 passes to 14 handoffs.
Don’t trust that he’s actually run heavy.
This was a terrible hire of a glorified QB coach soon to be fired.
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January 12, 2020 at 10:05 pm #17906GABrownsFanParticipantI wanted Saleh. But I’m okay with Stefanski. Out of all the remaining candidates after McCarthy, he ended up being my second choice.
Read a tweet from Charles Robinson that said that he expects Stefanski to try and bring over at least one of the Kubiaks to Cleveland.
5. As Stefanski builds a staff, two guys to keep an eye on are the Kubiaks – Gary, the former #NFL HC who is an offensive advisor and asst HC in Minny, and Klint, who is the #Vikings' QBs coach. I'd expect Minnesota to try to keep both, with Stefanski trying to take one or both.
— Charles Robinson (@CharlesRobinson) January 12, 2020
Ice, per MKC, Mike Priefer is staying, and that’s great news.
January 12, 2020 at 10:46 pm #17907GABrownsFanParticipant“You know, because in 2018 cousins completed 454 passes in 606 attempts (as a point of reference that’s 70 more passes than Baker this year).
Their offense was heavy pass until Kubiak came into the fold in 2019.”
I don’t know how Stefanski called the last two games of the 2018 season. Zimmer canned DeFillipo and turned to Stefanski. We don’t have a large sample size to see how he calls games without Kubiak, but he did do some pretty good things this past year.
January 12, 2020 at 11:26 pm #17911DawgSoldierParticipantWhat I’d love to see with this Hire is the installation of a ZBS/WCO which IMO given the personel is the best fit of any O I can think of.
Think back to the days of OC Shanahan, QB Hoyer and RB Crowell and that scheme and aplly the talent on hand on this roster.
OBJ and Juice runnin Horizontal routes makes so much more since as they will present bigger windows for Baker to through into. Let Njoku run the vertical stuff as he has the height advantage for it.
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January 13, 2020 at 8:25 am #17915IceKeymasterTheir offense was heavy pass until Kubiak came into the fold in 2019.
That’s one way to look at it. Another way: ‘Their offense was heavy pass until Cook got healthy.’
January 13, 2020 at 8:49 am #17917DawgSoldierParticipantTheir offense was heavy pass until Kubiak came into the fold in 2019.
That’s one way to look at it. Another way: ‘Their offense was heavy pass until Cook got healthy.’
Both could be true and likely are as nether reason is excludes the other. #Can’tWeAllJustGetAlong!?!? 😀
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January 13, 2020 at 10:34 am #17920soupParticipantTheir offense was heavy pass until Kubiak came into the fold in 2019.
That’s one way to look at it. Another way: ‘Their offense was heavy pass until Cook got healthy.’
Both could be true and likely are as nether reason is excludes the other. #Can’tWeAllJustGetAlong!?!? 😀
Except it’s not true. Kubiak fingerprints are all over their offense. I hope I’m wrong, but last I checked football plays stuff brainiacs in lockers. We need an alpha male to be HC. Not a glorified QB coach
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January 13, 2020 at 10:51 am #17921IceKeymasterAh the old “Kubiak’s Fingerprints” explanation. Very believable.
January 13, 2020 at 11:53 am #17922soupParticipantAh the old “Kubiak’s Fingerprints” explanation. Very believable.
I linked an article from December about Kubiak above. But I guess you don’t believe Zampese was the architect of Mayfields rookie year either.
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January 13, 2020 at 11:56 am #17923soupParticipantHere’s a different one from November for you:
http://m.startribune.com/gary-kubiak-s-offense-gives-life-to-old-school-fullbacks/564960512/
Unless Kubiak comes with him I’m not holding any high hopes for Freddie Shurmur Stefanski as the next head coach
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January 13, 2020 at 12:30 pm #17925soupParticipantAnd another blurb from today:
“Should the Vikings hire from within, assistant head coach Gary Kubiak could replace Stefanski. The franchise brought Kubiak in last offseason to guide the offense with Stefanski while installing core principles from the system he ran over 21 seasons as a head coach or offensive coordinator. “
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January 13, 2020 at 1:55 pm #17933IceKeymasterYou have proven that indeed Kubiak was hired as an offensive consultant.
That’s what you were trying to prove, right?
January 13, 2020 at 1:58 pm #17935DawgSoldierParticipantSo word is one or both Kubiaks might be coming to Cleveland.
Hope it’s true….and a OT at 10th pick as well
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January 13, 2020 at 2:30 pm #17939soupParticipantSo word is one or both Kubiaks might be coming to Cleveland.
Hope it’s true….and a OT at 10th pick as wellNo way Minnesota lets Gary walk. If Gary Kubiak becomes our OC I may actually smile about this. Only way this could be possible is if his Minnesota deal was 1 year
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January 13, 2020 at 3:34 pm #17942DawgSoldierParticipantSo word is one or both Kubiaks might be coming to Cleveland.
Hope it’s true….and a OT at 10th pick as wellNo way Minnesota lets Gary walk. If Gary Kubiak becomes our OC I may actually smile about this. Only way this could be possible is if his Minnesota deal was 1 year
I could be mistaken but I am pretty sure I read it was a one year deal and thats why both Kubiaks could be coming to Cleveland……
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January 13, 2020 at 4:00 pm #17947soupParticipantI haven’t found anything on Kubiak coming here. From all I read no one has any idea what Kubiak deal entails
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January 14, 2020 at 1:02 am #17961GABrownsFanParticipant“I could be mistaken but I am pretty sure I read it was a one year deal and thats why both Kubiaks could be coming to Cleveland……”
I read an article–sorry, can’t remember who wrote it or I’d post a link–that said that the Kubiaks are Stefanski are really close and had even discussed coming to Cleveland together last year if Stefanski had gotten the job.
I’d love to see it happen.
January 14, 2020 at 1:52 am #17966DawgSoldierParticipantGood read
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January 14, 2020 at 9:03 am #17973DawgSoldierParticipantanother good read
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October 12, 2020 at 12:42 pm #19535Dawg E. DawgParticipantI decided to go back and look at everybody’s reaction when we hired Stefanski. This is just too entertaining not to bump. Great stuff here.
Also, after yesterday, it’s seems safe to say the guy so many wanted, Saleh, is more a product of having elite talent than being an elite coach.
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