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- November 4, 2018 at 10:08 pm #14206
soup
ParticipantLove ya Bill, but I loathe politics. Nothing more useless. Can’t wait until Tuesday is over.
Freedom!!!
November 5, 2018 at 7:06 am #14207BillWunkle
ParticipantI know, Soup. Politics really SUCKS. The only way that it’s going to get any better is to vote the corrupt ones out of office and keep them out.
Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
November 5, 2018 at 7:34 am #14208soup
ParticipantHere’s what politicians “laws” did to my family:
1. Bought a home and in 30 days the yard fell. Builder lied for a year about coming to fix it.
2. 3 months after we closed they sold assets only to a new company.
3. I called the township to ask for the builders insurance. They said they aren’t required to and don’t have it on file.
4. I sued the builder.
5. Arbitration date took 2.5 years to arrive.
6. I won they appealed.
7. Another portion fell in the yard knocking out my fix.
8. Found out 4 years afterwards the township purposely lied to me and had the insurance on file the whole time. Their insurance denied my claim and won’t tell me why. Township hid behind laws written to absolve them of all damages.
9. Fix cost approx $150,000. Out of pocket.
10. DEP, senators office and.state rep response “ well that sucks. Good luck.”
11. Owners had an LLC. They are protected by law. They filed chapter 7. Again protected by law. They became multimillionaires.
New company is off the hook due to laws allowing them to buy assets only.
When I sued, the old company failed to notify their insurance. Guess what? Laws allow them to not have to cover damages because the old company failed to tell them. Due to the LLC and Chapter 7 that company is fully protected.
12. My wife, son and myself are punished to the tune of $150,000.
100% of politicians are corrupt. Voting is useless. I withdrew my right to vote earlier this year. No office will even discuss changing these laws with me. Voting is a waste of precious life. Everyone you vote for is a worthless pile of dogshit that does not care for you at all. They’d put their foot on your head if you were drowning
Freedom!!!
November 5, 2018 at 8:24 am #14209Ice
KeymasterI hate politics. 2 reasons I don’t want politics on the site: 1) People tend to hate those who disagree with themselves politically and 2) This is one of the places I go to get away from all that crap. Political ‘discussions’ on the internet tend to devolve into mudthrowing and people that should be unified by their hatred of the Steelers and sorrow for the Browns are instead split into camps to bicker about which politician is more racist. I just don’t want that here.
This could possibly be last article that I post for this website without having to first submit it to moderators for approval. If that indeed ends up being the case; then I will no longer be a contributor to brownsfootballtalk.com and this website will eventually fade away into the sea of forgetfulness; much like what happened with dawgbones.com.
Wunkle I don’t want you to leave. I don’t want anyone to leave, I like our little group of misfits. But I feel this group is stronger than any 1 individual. Even if I were to quit and shut down this site I bet a Facebook group would emerge for the rest of you to get together and bitch about football.
So one of our esteemed members did what they’re totally NOT supposed to do and posted a story about politics (on the front page no less). What am I going to do about it? In my typical lazy fashion I’m going to do nothing. Wunkle you can continue posting your stories without oversight I just ask you please to make them about the Browns and not politics. Also to be fair if someone from the other side of the aisle wants to post a rebuttal or whatever about their opinion I’ll put that on the front page too.
To everyone, please continue to KEEP POLITICS OUT OF ANY FOOTBALL-RELATED THREADS. Have a great day.
November 5, 2018 at 11:37 am #14224BillWunkle
ParticipantOkay . . . so we can all agree that politics, by its very nature, SUCKS OUT LOUD. I’m also truly sorry to read that Soup had to go through that crazy episode with his home. And to Ice . . . I apologize for the grief that this article has caused you. Your voice is the final word on this website. After all, it’s you who put the money and sweat into it. So from henceforth, I’ll be more than happy to comply with your wishes concerning front page material. And if there’s another member/contributor/moderator whos wishes to express their rebuttal from the left side of the aisle, I would certainly welcome that as well. I just hope, for that person’s sake, that he/she brings an opinion that is factually based. Otherwise that person’s opinions will be verbally ripped to shreds . . . and deservedly so.
Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
November 5, 2018 at 2:19 pm #14229Ice
KeymasterWunkle you are the crustiest of curmudgeons. This is basically where I go when I want to avoid politics, that’s why I don’t want them here. Maybe I’m being greedy and maybe you guys would enjoy arguing about more than the Browns.
If you guys want to have off topic discussions, have at it. These discussions will be UNMODERATED and everyone is responsible for their posts. I won’t even read them. I created a forum just for off topic discussions. I don’t go in there. I don’t want anyone in there bothering me about anything that anyone in there says. If someone in there insults you then leave that forum. If someone in there threatens your safety notify the police, not me.
November 5, 2018 at 2:50 pm #14231soup
ParticipantWunkle. You already know I loathe all politicians.
That said, you left out a major player in your post. Rs and Ds did flip. The flipper wasn’t LBJ. It was JFK. He actually did care. LBJ felt he owed it to Kennedy to see it through. That’s where the shift arises.
Now LBJ and Nixon both committed massive treason. Nixon interfered in the Nam peace talks. That was treason. LBJ knee because, well, he did some illegal things so he let Nixon slide for his treason so he didn’t have to explain how he knew. That makes him an accomplice in the treason.
One thing I state is the right buys the votes of the rich while the left buys the votes of the poor. Meanwhile – both sides cater strictly to corporations.
Obamacare was written by big pharma and insurance companies while the EPA under current admin is controlled by oil and gas.
Freedom!!!
November 5, 2018 at 4:19 pm #14233BillWunkle
ParticipantThat is where you’re dead wrong, Soup. Johnson saw the expansion of entitlement programs and the enactment of affirmative action as opportunities to keep the blacks on the Democratic voter plantation at sub-minimum wages. If you were indeed right, then Southern racist Democrats like George Wallace, Lester Maddox, Bull Connor and Robert Byrd would’ve all left the Democratic Party for the Republican Party. Instead, they remained there until their death.
The big difference between conservatives and liberals is the amount of government control they want over our lives. Conservatives are for as limited government involvement as is humanly possible so that you can live your life and spend/invest your money as you see fit. Liberals want the people to be as dependent upon the government as is humanly possible, and thus have total control over every aspect of your life. That’s one reason the Democrats talk about gun control instead of crime control. If only the military and police are the only ones who have guns, then law abiding citizens are at the mercy of criminals, law enforcement and military alike.
I’m not saying that Republicans are exempt from the mess in Washington. NO, NO my friend. A corrupt politician is a corrupt politician; and it’s high time that the swamp is drained of lifetime politicians.
Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
November 5, 2018 at 4:45 pm #14234soup
ParticipantOh, LBJ was the worst president we’ve ever had. Don’t get me wrong. Kennedy was the “flip” on the “progressive” front.
As for LBJ reasoning, it was Kennedy:
https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2004/summer/civil-rights-act-1.html
I agree with your overall assessment on the left.
However, the right only claims to be for less government. Their actions show otherwise. Less government doesn’t come up with the Patriot Act. Doesn’t try and ban gay marriage, doesn’t keep marijuana (a 100% harmless drug that now in history has od’d on) illegal and taking up prison space.
As a reminder in 2018 I withdrew my right to vote.
Less government is actually the mantra of libertarians. Due to my commonality with their beliefs (there was an in depth quiz that matched your views with all candidates for president) I matched over 90% with the Libertarian candidate and voted for them the last 3 elections.
They are for small government. They are actually fiscally conservative and socially liberal.
Freedom!!!
November 5, 2018 at 6:02 pm #14240Shooter
ModeratorWho wins in a race?:
Bandit, driving his Trans Am.
The Duke Boys driving the General Lee
Michael Knight driving K.I.T.T.
Magnum in his Ferrari 308
Hardcastle and McCormick driving their Coyote
The Fall Guy driving his GMC K-12000 WideSide
Marty McFly driving the Delorean
Nic Cage driving Elenor
Starsky and Hutch in the Gran Torino
B.A. Barackus driving the A-team van
Crocket driving his Ferrari TesterossaL.A. to Vegas. No rules. First one there wins.
November 5, 2018 at 6:19 pm #14242Ice
KeymasterBandit. Also how dare you mention Marty McFly with those men.
November 5, 2018 at 7:19 pm #14244DawgPoundDude
ParticipantBandit. Also how dare you mention Marty McFly with those men.
Fuck that, Marty belongs there.
Is it the Delorean that flies? If so, Marty, hands down. Also true if he can get it to 88 MPH at any point.
In terms of “coolness” carrying them to Vegas, gotta go Bandit here.
November 5, 2018 at 8:14 pm #14245Ice
KeymasterWrong DPD. Marty drives for shit and the Delorian breaks down constantly. Bandit wins easily while Marty goes back in time and almost humps his mom.
November 5, 2018 at 10:39 pm #14246DawgSoldier
ParticipantHere’s what politicians “laws” did to my family:
1. Bought a home and in 30 days the yard fell. Builder lied for a year about coming to fix it.
2. 3 months after we closed they sold assets only to a new company.
3. I called the township to ask for the builders insurance. They said they aren’t required to and don’t have it on file.
4. I sued the builder.
5. Arbitration date took 2.5 years to arrive.
6. I won they appealed.
7. Another portion fell in the yard knocking out my fix.
8. Found out 4 years afterwards the township purposely lied to me and had the insurance on file the whole time. Their insurance denied my claim and won’t tell me why. Township hid behind laws written to absolve them of all damages.
9. Fix cost approx $150,000. Out of pocket.
10. DEP, senators office and.state rep response “ well that sucks. Good luck.”
11. Owners had an LLC. They are protected by law. They filed chapter 7. Again protected by law. They became multimillionaires.
New company is off the hook due to laws allowing them to buy assets only.
When I sued, the old company failed to notify their insurance. Guess what? Laws allow them to not have to cover damages because the old company failed to tell them. Due to the LLC and Chapter 7 that company is fully protected.
12. My wife, son and myself are punished to the tune of $150,000.
100% of politicians are corrupt. Voting is useless. I withdrew my right to vote earlier this year. No office will even discuss changing these laws with me. Voting is a waste of precious life. Everyone you vote for is a worthless pile of dogshit that does not care for you at all. They’d put their foot on your head if you were drowningMaaaan thats some crooked shit. I am so sorry that bastards got away with screwing folks.
As for my politics all ya have to do is look at my facebook. I am a fan of this POTUS. But I don’t think that this topic needs to be here.
Heck shooter gave me grief for a military beer drinking story I posted just for a laugh.
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November 6, 2018 at 12:00 am #14247Dawg E. Dawg
ParticipantWinked, I, for once have no issue with the post. If anybody doesn’t like it, it’s easy enough to ignore. And let’s be honest, there aren’t THAT many commentirs and topics around here that it’s crowding space we would be using.
Just to put my two for short cents into your OG post, my biggest issue with politics is the 2 parties have become so overwhelmingly strong, that everything’s is boiled down to either 1, or 2. Black or white.
You want to be a Democrat? Ok, here’s your list of everything you believe in. A republican? Ok, here’s your list. Now remember, you have to argue with each other every time they support something that’s not on your list.
You can’t tell what politicians actually believe, because they adopt their parties beliefs, or risk losing their all-importantant backing.
I had hoped in the last presidential election, mutual disdain for the 2 candidates would lead to a strong 3rd party showing by Libertarian candidate, but his campaign was ill-run, in my opinion, and it wasn’t meant to be. So, I’ve all but given up hope that it will change anytime soon.
Ok, that’s my 2 cents and change.
November 6, 2018 at 7:19 am #14248Shooter
ModeratorAlso how dare you mention Marty McFly with those men.
Well it’s because of the car, the Delorean rocks. And you smoke meth, it doesn’t break down at all it just runs out of gas and nuclear fusion, big difference.
And to answer DPD’s question, not the flying Delorean, the grounded version lol. Time circuits off however. I mean, that’s super cheating.
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