THE WAGER… DOUBLE DOWN!!!!!

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  • #11208
    Shooter
    Moderator

    1. Darnold will be the #1 pick. It’s a lock.

    Any interest in making a wager on that?

    #11210
    DawgSoldier
    Participant

    1. Darnold will be the #1 pick. It’s a lock.

    Any interest in making a wager on that?

    What he said

    http://cloudassetserver.com/STL/posts/185/sp_04_976x0.jpg

    #11214
    DawgPoundDude
    Participant

    1. Darnold will be the #1 pick. It’s a lock.

    Any interest in making a wager on that?

    Not me. Yer boy Soup, however, has a sig that needs refreshing.

    #11215
    soup
    Participant

    1. Darnold will be the #1 pick. It’s a lock.

    Any interest in making a wager on that?

    Not me. Yer boy Soup, however, has a sig that needs refreshing.

    I’ve got nothing wager wise yet. Can’t think of anything

    Freedom!!!

    #11217
    Ice
    Keymaster

    That said, Ice . . . Do you think Quenton Nelson has what it takes to play left tackle?

    I don’t want to find out. If we did draft him Bitonio would slide over to LT and Nelson would play LG. Guard is perhaps the ONLY position the Browns don’t have a need in, so chances of us drafting one with a top 5 pick are slim/none.

    #11218
    Ice
    Keymaster

    1. Darnold will be the #1 pick. It’s a lock.

    Any interest in making a wager on that?

    #11223
    Shooter
    Moderator

    Name your terms. (rubs hands together slowly as new victim approaches).

    #11224
    GABrownsFan
    Participant

    I missed the Shooter/Soup bet when it was made. This should be interesting….

    #11225
    Shooter
    Moderator

    This should be interesting….

    #11226
    Ice
    Keymaster

    Darnold will be the first overall pick, and it’ll be the Browns that make the pick.

    Exceptions:
    1) Darnold has an accident or some sort or health issue before the draft that we don’t know about now. Piano falls on him, docs discover a heart issue, brain cloud, etc.

    2) Browns sign or trade for Kirk Cousins or other current top 10 QB before the draft.

    If either of those very unlikely incidents happen then we call the contest off and neither of us loses.

    What terms do you recommend?

    #11227
    Shooter
    Moderator

    Darnold will be the first overall pick, and it’ll be the Browns that make the pick.

    Exceptions:
    1) Darnold has an accident or some sort or health issue before the draft that we don’t know about now. Piano falls on him, docs discover a heart issue, brain cloud, etc.

    2) Browns sign or trade for Kirk Cousins or other current top 10 QB before the draft.

    If either of those very unlikely incidents happen then we call the contest off and neither of us loses.

    I accept.

    What terms do you recommend?

    I’ll let you pick from a list of options.

    1) Sigline. If you’re right you pick mine, if you’re wrong I pick yours, very simple. Let’s say 6 months (I’m not going to punish you as bad as Soup)

    2) Avatar. Same amount of time, no porn (although watching you make posts with a pic of a dude blowing himself for 6 months would make me giggle the entire time).

    3) The Doubledown. I contend that they’re gonna take Barkley at 1. If they do, I control both your avatar and sigline for 6 months. If they take Darnold, you control both of mine. If they choose someone other than our 2 stated predictions, it’s a wash. (Ex: they pick Allen #1, there is no winner and nothing happens).

    #11228
    Ice
    Keymaster

    I like option 1. I think option 3 is just an easy way for you to back out because it’s not going to be Barkley, it’d be some other QB. But I have a very big concern about your option two. There’s a pic of a guy blowing HIMSELF on the internet? And you know this HOW?

    #11241
    soup
    Participant

    Make it a year long bet. Quit being pansies.

    Freedom!!!

    #11242
    Ice
    Keymaster

    Make it a year long bet. Quit being pansies.

    Doesn’t matter to me. Who do you think will win?

    #11244
    Ice
    Keymaster

    Who will win THE WAGER

    • Ice (30%, 3 Votes)
    • Shooter (70%, 7 Votes)

    Total Voters: 10

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    #11245
    soup
    Participant

    I voted @shooter. oddly, I see us with Mayfield when all is said and done. Just a hunch. Nothing to bet on.

    Freedom!!!

    #11247
    DawgSoldier
    Participant

    I think the guy that drafted Mahomes last year will draft Allen this year.

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    #11248
    Shooter
    Moderator

    I think option 3 is just an easy way for you to back out

    It’s actually an out for both of us, but carries twice the risk. I back out from nothing.

    it’s not going to be Barkley

    I know stuff.

    There’s a pic of a guy blowing HIMSELF on the internet?

    Lot’s of them.

    And you know this HOW?

    Everyone has started out on a simple internet quest and found themselves in a place they never wanted to be, seeing things that cannot be unseen. Don’t even act like you don’t know what I mean or that you haven’t gone down the rabbit hole.

    #11249
    Ice
    Keymaster

    Everyone has started out on a simple internet quest and found themselves in a place they never wanted to be, seeing things that cannot be unseen. Don’t even act like you don’t know what I mean or that you haven’t gone down the rabbit hole.

    I’d like to tell you just how wrong you are about this, but I remember when Soup sent me that friend request on Facebook and I thought to myself ‘gosh I wonder what that guy looks like’.

    #11250
    GABrownsFan
    Participant

    I need a little clarification. Is the bet that Sam will be the #1 guy or that Sam will be the #1 pick and the Browns will be taking him?

    For Ice to win, for example, could the Giants trade up with us and take Darnold?

    #11251
    Dawg E. Dawg
    Participant

    I need a little clarification. Is the bet that Sam will be the #1 guy or that Sam will be the #1 pick and the Browns will be taking him?
    For Ice to win, for example, could the Giants trade up with us and take Darnold?

    I was wondering about that too. I haven’t seen or heard anybody saying the Browns LIKE Darnold, but I’ve seen him being predicted as going first based on evaluators thinking he’s the best QB. I’ve seen the Browns rumored to be in the trade down market (asinine) which could easily lead to some other team picking Darnold.

    For reference, the 2 QB’s I’ve seen the Browns linked to are Josh Allen and Baker Mayfield. Odd, considering how disimilar those 2 are. Also odd, is I haven’t seen Josh Rosen linked to any team not based in New York (technically New Jersey).

    #11252
    Ice
    Keymaster

    For me to win it needs to be both. Browns take Darnold #1.

    Really I should get some odds. For me to lose any of the 32 teams could take any of the over 7 billion other people on Earth with the first pick.

    #11253
    the dude
    Participant

    Loser has to hand write a letter to that Loser Hue Jacksom informing him that you are a Loser just like Loser Hue Jackson.

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #11254
    the dude
    Participant

    Shooter knows dudes blowing dudes. Don’t ever question him.

    Also, i think shooter wins. I don’t like drafting running backs with top 5 picks, but when elite is there, you have to take elite. Also, I don’t doubt we still may get Darnold with the number 4 even though we need an elite receiver more than anything.

    Finally, I would love to see someone instead of using words, put a picture of someone’s wife in their signature or a picture of them wearing a stoolers jersey…. Soup should have some spares around.

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #11255
    Shooter
    Moderator

    or that Sam will be the #1 pick and the Browns will be taking him?

    Yes. If he’s not, I win.

    Really I should get some odds.

    Nope sorry that time has passed. The naming your terms window has officially closed.

    Shooter knows dudes blowing dudes.

    I said a dude blowing himself, not another dude. Big difference.

    Finally, I would love to see someone instead of using words, put a picture of someone’s wife in their signature

    I’m gonna use words to tell you that that’s fucking retarded.

    Although I am still waiting to hear about the triple pickle.

    #11256
    Ice
    Keymaster

    The third pickle is key.

    #11257
    DawgPoundDude
    Participant

    Man, that vote is just admin power abuse.

    #11258
    Ice
    Keymaster

    Joe Thomas just came out and said he thinks it’s Darnold.

    #11259
    the dude
    Participant

    @ice in January Joe Thomas was pleading with Kirk cousins who just became a free agent.

    Personally, I do not like him all that much and his numbers have just never impressed me…. Let someone else overpay the shit out of him.

    I wish we would think about drafting receiver at 4. We still have nobody to throw too…. Josh Gordon is still 100% unreliable. And Corey Cole man’s career can be summed up on his last play. We need someone with hands and who isn’t afraid to run up the middle on a nasty North division.

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #11262
    Ice
    Keymaster

    I agree with a lot of what you just said @dude. If there was an amazing stud WR in this draft class he might be my choice at 4th. There just isn’t a WR good enough to be considered there.

    You and I feel the same about Cousins. He would have had 4-5 wins on last year’s team winning a lot of those close games we lost. But when we have a playoff caliber team he’ll hold us back.

    #11267
    the dude
    Participant

    I think we will be idiots and draft a running back that will be an NFL bust.

    I know it’s not the popular opinion, but if we draft Barkley at 1, then maybe we should work with Kizer. He did show some signs of being good…. But this team was pure shit specially the second half of the season. I am not sure cousins would have even made a difference in those few games that were close. We literally division 2 receivers.

    Hue Jackson is a loser.

    #11271
    DawgPoundDude
    Participant

    …are you guys gonna make this bet happen, or does a fourth pickle need to be added?

    #11277
    Shooter
    Moderator

    Oh this bet is on.

    #11290
    Ice
    Keymaster

    @Shooter who do you think will go 1st overall?

    #11292
    BillWunkle
    Participant

    If in fact the Browns are only considering the QB position – which is Ice’s best case scenario – with the first overall pick, he has only a 1 in 4 chance of being correct. That’s a 25% possibility. If you add the possibility of the Browns taking a position other than QB, the percentage goes down to anywhere from 20% to 16.67%. If you add the possibility – albeit extremely slim – that the Browns get blown away with a draft day trade offer, the percentage goes down to anywhere from 16.67% to 14.29% that Ice is correct. It all comes down to which quarterback the Browns think is absolutely their guy that they cannot do without. That said, at this point of the silly season, I’m leaning towards Cleveland taking Josh Rosen with the first overall pick. However, a lot can transpire between now and draft day. In short, because of the numbers, I’m thinking that Shooter will win the bet; and I can only hope that Shooter will keep the avatar above the belt.

    Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!

    #11293
    Shooter
    Moderator

    @shooter who do you think will go 1st overall?

    The pick will be Barkley. Here’s why:

    It all comes down to which quarterback the Browns think is absolutely their guy that they cannot do without

    And therein lies the rub: there isn’t one. These QB’s are all interchangeable as far as prospect status goes. They all have potential and upside, and they all have flaws and concerns. No one has separated themselves from the pack.

    Let’s exclude Baker Mayfield from this discussion and take the big 3 of Rosen, Darnold, and Allen. If one of these guys just absolutely leaped off the board for the Browns, logic says that at 1 you take him. Yes, more than likely Barkley is not going to fall to 4 because he’s considered the best player in this draft, by far, but if you absolutely know who your guy is QB, man you take him. Period. End of story and it doesn’t matter if you miss out on Barkely.

    But if you’re wrong on that guy, and he flames out, now you bombed on your QB pick, AND you missed out on a generational talent.

    But no one has become that guy for the Browns. No one has stated the case “take me, I’m changing your franchise”. As it stands, these guys are all equal. There’s no way to distinguish who is going to fail, who is going to succeed, and who is going to outperform who. No one is rising to the top. And THAT, is why Barkley is the pick.

    Taking Barkley at 1 ensures you get the best player in the draft and add a transcendent talent to your roster. Even at the beleaguered position of running back, he’s a stud for you for 8 years. And adding him at 1 means that with your pick at 4, you are still guaranteed at least one of the QB’s. You also have to factor in that there’s no guarantee that the Giants are taking a QB. The Colts don’t need one, and the price to trade up for another team will be exorbitant, so the reality is that there is a strong chance that at 4, 2 or possibly still even all 3 of them are there to pick from. But that doesn’t even matter, because however it shakes out the Browns are still guaranteed to get 1 of them. Now, you have a future face of the franchise QB AAAAAAANNNNND the best player in the draft. If the QB busts, you still walk away with Barkley. Do it the other way and take the QB first, if he busts, you get neither.

    The Browns cannot afford a failure of that magnitude, they’ll be 1-15 for the next 5 years if that happens. There is no one Andrew Luck-ing their stock into this draft. If there were, sure, take him and roll the dice on Barkley. But there isn’t. Be smart. You take Barkley and lock that down, and now you wait and see. Again, they’re GUARANTEED to get at least one of them, with strong odds that 2 will still be there, and a solid chance that all 3 could still be on the board at 4.

    I am absolutely guaranteeing, unequivocally and without any hesitation, that the Browns are taking Saquan Barkley #1 overall, and for those exact reasons. Go ahead and read it twice of you need to.

    #11296
    soup
    Participant

    How do you figure the Colts don’t need a QB? Luck has been injured for 14 months and talk isn’t too optimistic of him coming back. Rumors also have swirled of him not ever being able to play again. He was supposed to be back week 4 last year. Don’t count the Colts out unless Luck does some fast healing between now and the draft.

    “the comments from the Colts’ front office and coaching staff regarding Luck’s recovery have been positive even though he hasn’t been able to throw a football yet.

    March 7, 2018 is when this is from.

    Freedom!!!

    #11298
    Ice
    Keymaster

    @Shooter, how confident are you that the 1st pick will be ‘generational talent’ Barkley? I’m even more confident that you’re wrong about Barkley than I am that I’m right about Darnold.

    Care to double down?

    #11301
    Shooter
    Moderator

    How do you figure the Colts don’t need a QB?

    Everything you said about Luck is absolutely valid. But there is zero chance the Colts are looking to start down the road of Life After Luck right now. It’s just soon. Should they? Possibly. And the situation is serious. But they aren’t going to use the #3 overall pick on a QB. They either ride things out with Luck and grab BPA, or they simply trade down and gather future draft capital in the event that Luck is indeed done for. If they do trade, it will almost assuredly be to a team that needs/covets a QB.

    @shooter, how confident are you that the 1st pick will be ‘generational talent’ Barkley?

    It’s not a matter of confidence. This is carved it granite. It’s happening. The decision is already made.

    I’m even more confident that you’re wrong

    Geraldo couldn’t wait to open Al Capone’s vault once too.

    Care to double down?

    I’m listening.

    #11311
    Ice
    Keymaster

    Browns take Barkley 1st overall, you win. Otherwise I win. Same exceptions as I have for Darnold; if he has a serious hidden injury we don’t know about or if he loses a leg in a catastrophic unicycling accident you get to back out. Also if the Browns go out and trade for a top 10 RB (using last year’s stats) then you are off the hook.

    #11334
    Ice
    Keymaster

    What’s wrong, scared?

    #11343
    DawgPoundDude
    Participant

    I want Barkley on our team, bad. But after the Taylor trade, the QB that makes the most sense is now Darnold. And they likely don’t risk it and get him at #1.

    Which sucks, because Barkley likely doesn’t make it to #4.

    #11354
    Shooter
    Moderator

    What’s wrong, scared?

    I already made the offer to you that the Browns were taking Barkley and put up both my sigline AND avatar. You turned it down.

    Who’s scared of what, exactly?

    #11355
    Shooter
    Moderator

    Which sucks, because Barkley likely doesn’t make it to #4.

    No he will not. He’s going #1 lol.

    #11362
    DawgPoundDude
    Participant

    Which sucks, because Barkley likely doesn’t make it to #4.

    No he will not. He’s going #1 lol.

    I LOL’d. Scared the shit outta my sleeping puppy, too.

    Dammit, now its potty time. Thanks Shooter!

    #11364
    Ice
    Keymaster

    What’s wrong, scared?

    I already made the offer to you that the Browns were taking Barkley and put up both my sigline AND avatar. You turned it down.
    Who’s scared of what, exactly?

    I did? I remember turning something down.

    It’s the stakes I don’t like. I’ve got a better idea. You lose, and you have to do a podcast for us.

    Scared now?

    #11405
    Ice
    Keymaster

    Guess so.

    #11408
    Shooter
    Moderator

    What are you babbling about now?

    #11409
    Ice
    Keymaster

    You were challenged, you backed down.

    #11411
    Shooter
    Moderator

    Listen, I’ll put it to you like this:

    I accept whatever challenge you want to lay down, with whatever terms you propose. We’re drafting Saquan Barkley #1 overall. As sure as the sun will rise tomorrow and that OJ wasn’t being “hypothetical” at all in his lost interview yesterday, we’re taking Barkley.

    As a result, when we don’t take Darnold, I own your sigline. Come up with whatever other silliness you like for me, it won’t matter.

    I accept all your challenges and terms.

    Happy now?

    (btw, you lost).

    #11457
    Ice
    Keymaster

    There you have it, the double down!

    I can’t wait to hear your podcast. Maybe instead of writing your sig line I could just write your podcast intro. “Welcome to the Barking Lot, where Shooter is always wrong and Ice is always right. I’m your host Shooter, making you laugh, cry, and sometimes tingle in weird places. Let me start by telling you how much I enjoy posts by @dude….”

    #11462
    Shooter
    Moderator

    I do make people tingle in weird places……..

    #11464
    Ice
    Keymaster

    You generally hit me right in the uterus.

    #11466
    Dawg E. Dawg
    Participant

    SO, to clarify, Browns pick Darnold, Ice wins. Browns pick Saquon, Shooter wins. Browns pick soemdbody else, bobody wins. Winner gets control of losers sigline and avatar for 6 months. That sound right?

    #11467
    Shooter
    Moderator

    I don’t really know to tell you the truth. All I know is that I already won, so whatever the total sum of the terms are/is needs to be clarified for me so that I can properly collect my prize in 45 days, 9 hours, 45 minutes and 30 seconds.

    #11468
    soup
    Participant

    It’s a year you pussies. I’m stepping in and making that your bet.

    Freedom!!!

    #11469
    Ice
    Keymaster

    SO, to clarify, Browns pick Darnold, Ice wins. Browns pick Saquon, Shooter wins. Browns pick soemdbody else, bobody wins. Winner gets control of losers sigline and avatar for 6 months. That sound right?

    I would just add:
    If the Browns trade the pick to someone else, no one wins.

    And there are outs for extenuating circumstances such as a freak injury between now and the draft, a career affecting injury or degenerative condition that we didn’t know about coming to light, or trading for a top 10 player at the position. Technically Tyrod Taylor IS a top 10 player at QB depending on what stats you use so technically I should not be able to lose that part of the bet BUT I am benevolent, confident, and most importantly still 100% correct that we’re taking Darnold so I will still go forward with the bet.

    The terms: For the Darnold bet the winner controls the loser’s sig for 6 months. For the Barkley bet if Shooter wins he gets my sig for an additional 6 months. If I win Shooter has to start a podcast for us.

    #11470
    Shooter
    Moderator

    I am benevolent, confident, and most importantly still 100% correct that we’re taking Darnold

    You huff glue. You’re basically Charlie from It’s always Sunny.

    Night man, Ah aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

    #11484
    DawgPoundDude
    Participant

    I think there should be a bonus 6 months involved if you guys guess who gets drafted at 4.

    #11488
    Ice
    Keymaster

    I wonder who @BillWunkle thinks is gonna win this bet…

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