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How would you grade the Browns draft?
- A (50%, 5 Votes)
- B (40%, 4 Votes)
- C (10%, 1 Votes)
- D (0%, 0 Votes)
- F (0%, 0 Votes)
Total Voters: 10
Loading ...I think they made a mistake not taking wentz. Whether or not that mistake is catastrophic is yet to be determined.
The trade maneuvering was EXCELLENT along with getting future draft picks.
The picks look great to OK on paper. Not a fan of the 2 undersized DB’s when the NFL is trending towards bigger receivers.
Love all the front 7 players though.
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I think we did very well, if half of these guys are producing in 3 years and we get a similar haul in 17′ then we’ll be on our way !
I like the idea around the moves. Get as many young bodies in and lay the foundation. Obviously I don’t feel we will win many games this year so loading up future draft is a great idea.
I like the idea around the moves. Get as many young bodies in and lay the foundation. Obviously I don’t feel we will win many games this year so loading up future draft is a great idea.
This season is going to suck. It’s worth saying again (though definitely not the measuring stick I use to determine a season) that Vegas has us going 0-16. Personally, I think we will have a season similar to what we’re used to…unless Hue can pull magic rabbits out of his ass.
Still, I think they did a hell of a job. The only real reach here was maybe Kessler (many had him going in Round 5-6), but when a coach says “you’ll have to trust me”, he knows something you don’t. It may also be arrogance on Hue’s part, but if he wins football games, he can be as arrogant as he wants. He will definitely have earned it.
This draft just proved to me that these guys know what the fuck they’re are doing. It’s been a long time since I could say that. Im…excited.
Statistically our draft picks have a very small chance of working out. Statistically you double the chance of getting one right if you double the number of draft picks.
I LOVE trading down, and I hate trading up. Previous regimes have traded down and gotten a big haul, then used that haul to trade back up for some idiot that sucks. That is not productive.I gave it an A – as much as I wasn’t a fan of the first pick I loved the rest. As for Kessler being a reach because “they” had him going in round 5 – “they” means idiots like Mel Kiper who thought a no talent pile of crap with a shitty attitude like Cook was actually worthy of a round 1 or 2 pick.
Freedom!!!
Agree with @soup here. Draft grades from analysts are about as accurate as their mock drafts. There is only one analyst whose mock draft I trust, and his name is @billwunkle. These other ‘analysts’ will give teams a higher grade if they drafted close to their mock and a lower grade if they didn’t follow their mock. It’s more accurate to say that a lower draft grade from an analyst reflects on the work of the analyst, not the team. If Grossi gives the Browns an ‘F’, then it only means that Grossi had no idea what he was doing when he made his mock.
Just using Grossi as an example because I dislike him, not because he gave us an F.
Thanks for the props, Ice.
The first night of the draft was one of the crazier ones from early on that I can remember; especially after Laremy Tunsil had his social media accounts were hacked. Once the Browns traded out of the #2 spot and pretty much told the football world that they weren’t interested in taking Carson Wentz there; I genuinely thought that there would be a play for one of the top OT’s somewhere around the #8 slot. I normally try not to include trades in my final mocks; but I was so compelled to have the Browns trade down again because my conviction on the matter was so strong. As it turned out, I was right. But hey, even a blind squirrel gets a nut every now and then. I also thought that the WR’s would start going off the board somewhere around 15-17. As it turned out, the Browns needed help at WR and Tennessee needed a top OT . . . so there you have it. To his credit, Sashi Brown got a much better deal than what I thought he could. For the trade, I give him an A+.
Seemingly everyone’s consensus #1 receiver was Laquon Treadwell, but the Browns criteria was a little different. For Hue Jackson’s offensive scheme to work, the Browns needed to get a speed guy to stretch the field. Well, Corey Coleman ran a 4.37 at his pro day. It was also apparent that this front office more than ever is basing their picks on tangible results. Coleman also had crazy production numbers in spite of missing time with an injury. He’s also got a 41.5″ vertical leap, which means that he’s going to win a LOT of the 50/50 balls. I give this pick an A. Unlike many other prognosticators, the pick doesn’t have to be mine in order for me to like it.
As for round two, it came and went for the Browns without any drama. They had their pick early and watched from the sidelines to see what was going to happen. Emmanuel Ogba was brought here to do one thing . . . get to the quarterback. According to all accounts, this was a good value pick. I give it a B+.
The third round found a lot of stuff going on. Carl Nassib went at 65th. This is a real effort guy that will get paid by getting to the quarterback. I was a little surprised that they went DE in back-to-back picks; but the production numbers are what’s driving this Browns draft, and they need to put more pressure on opposing QB’s. I give it a solid B.
At 76th they took OT Shon Coleman from Auburn. Raw in technique, but another effort guy that will never quit on you. This is one of the picks the Browns got from Tennessee. I give it a solid B.
I’ll have to comment on the other picks later on.
Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
I wasn’t really shocked at us grabbing two DE’s in a row. Clearly what we’re trying to do is build a team that will be a perennial playoff team and superbowl threat in 2019 or 2020. With that in mind, we seriously need some pass rushers. As we saw today Mingo’s option was not picked up and Kruger is not gonna be around by then. Mingo never impressed me in the least anyway and according to @Soup he’s going to fail a PED test soon.
Before this draft the Browns had only drafted one WR since Braylon Edwards (Mayle) and he didn’t even make the opening day roster. This is a position on the team that you have to start a minimum of 2 guys and we haven’t even taken a shot. That changed a lot in this draft!
Soup- I like you when I saw the name said this is stupid. But then when I researched it I said he’s a stretch the field guy for RG3 who can stretch the field. This guy attacks the ball. He can also take a screen to the house.
With the DE’s Ogbah is gonna be an OLB. Probably play in nickel situations as a pass rusher. I loved everything they did outside of Kessler. I wanted Dak Prescott at that point.
Soup- I like you when I saw the name said this is stupid. But then when I researched it I said he’s a stretch the field guy for RG3 who can stretch the field. This guy attacks the ball. He can also take a screen to the house.
With the DE’s Ogbah is gonna be an OLB. Probably play in nickel situations as a pass rusher. I loved everything they did outside of Kessler. I wanted Dak Prescott at that point.Prescott was in no way On their board after his DUI.
Freedom!!!
Before this draft the Browns had only drafted one WR since Braylon Edwards (Mayle) and he didn’t even make the opening day roster. This is a position on the team that you have to start a minimum of 2 guys and we haven’t even taken a shot. That changed a lot in this draft!
Wait, what?
It’s 4 WR’s and a TE’s. Not 5 WR’s
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Round 1, Pick 15 (15) (From Titans through Rams) Corey Coleman WR 5’11” 194 Baylor 6.0
Pick Analysis: “He’s a dynamic playmaker. Think Percy Harvin, that’s the kind of playmaker that he is. He has a quick start and explosive speed. The only key for him is that he hasn’t run a route tree. You will have to manufacture touches for him as he learns the route tree. He’s special with the football in his hands.” — Mike Mayock
Round 2, Pick 1 (32) Emmanuel Ogbah DE 6’4″ 273 Oklahoma St. 6.0Pick Analysis: “Physically, think Bud Dupree or Preston Smith. He’s big and powerful, but a little stiff-hipped. This guy has big-time talent. When he’s angry and playing, he is a powerful force to be reckoned with.” — Mike Mayock
Round 3, Pick 2 (65) Carl Nassib DE 6’7″ 277 Penn St. 5.6Pick Analysis: “He had a monster fifth year. A comparison is Jared Allen, but he has no clue what he’s doing yet. He plays hard, has a relentless motor that you will not believe. He’s a really good edge rusher with upside.” — Mike Mayock
Round 3, Pick 13 (76) (From Titans through Rams) Shon Coleman OT 6’5″ 307 Auburn 5.8Pick Analysis: “This is a great story. Teams that met with him, fell in love with him. He plays nasty. This is a guy who plays aggressively, but will need to home in his technique.” — Daniel Jeremiah
Round 3, Pick 31 (93) (Fram Panthers) Cody Kessler QB 6’1″ 220 USC 5.4Pick Analysis: “There was a lot of buzz on him late in the draft process. He won’t wow you with arm strength, but his decision-making abilities are a strength.” — Daniel Jeremiah
Round 4, Pick 1 (99) Joe Schobert OLB 6’1″ 244 Wisconsin 5.4Pick Analysis: Browns continue to address their front 7 with a productive ‘backer who can rush the passer from the edge or drop into coverage. Has potential to compete for starting job inside or outside in Cleveland’s base 3-4. -Mark Dulgerian
Round 4, Pick 16 (114) (From Raiders) Ricardo Louis WR 6’2″ 215 Auburn 5.4Pick Analysis: The Browns’ receiver depth was bone dry so this is a need selection. Louis stepped up as Auburn’s go-to guy in 2015 and flashes some explosive run-after-catch ability. He’s probably limited to a subpackage role during his first couple seasons. –Mark Dulgerian
Round 4, Pick 31 (129) (From Panthers) Derrick Kindred FS 5’10” 207 TCU 5.1Pick Analysis: The Browns have alot of holes, including safety. Kindred is a back end tone-setter who should have opportunities to see early playing time. He’ll also stay busy on coverage teams. –Mark Dulgerian
Round 4, Pick 40 (138) (Compensatory Selection) Seth Devalve TE 6’4″ 245 Princeton 4.9Pick Analysis: This was a bit of a surprise pick, despite this being a relatively weak tight end class. The Princeton product is a former wide receiver with “plus” ball skills so Hue Jackson may want to move him around and get creative with his skill set. –Mark Dulgerian
Round 5, Pick 15 (154) (From Raiders) Jordan Payton WR 6’1″ 207 UCLA 5.1Pick Analysis: The Bruins’ career receptions record holder is a possession receiver in the NFL. He’s a safe, underneath target with limited big-play ability. –Mark Dulgerian
Round 5, Pick 31 (168) (From Panthers) Spencer Drango OG 6’6″ 315 Baylor 5.2Pick Analysis: Another Baylor offseason addition, along with other draft picks that played primarily in spread offenses, you wonder if this indicates what the Browns’ offense will look like next year. Drango is best suited inside, but could be a swing right tackle in a pinch. –Mark Dulgerian
Round 5, Pick 35 (172) (Compensatory Selection) Rashard Higgins WR 6’1″ 196 Colorado St. 5.4Pick Analysis: “Hollywood” Higgins is the most pro-ready WR the Browns have selected in terms of experience in a pro-style system. He’s QB friendly with separation savvy and sticky hands. He has potential to be a short to intermediate workhorse in Hue Jackson’s offense. –Mark Dulgerian
Round 5, Pick 36 (173) (Compensatory Selection) Trey Caldwell DB 5’9″ 186 Louisiana-Monroe —Pick Analysis: Undersized, Caldwell also had marginal college production but he has enough athletic traits to project as a potential depth corner and special teams contributor. –Mark Dulgerian
Round 7, Pick 29 (250) (From Dolphins through Patriots) Scooby Wright III ILB 6’0″ 239 Arizona 5.5Pick Analysis: The Zach Thomas comparisons are legit with this guy. He has some size/athletic limitations but injuries pushed him further down boards than his talent alone suggests. –Mark Dulgerian
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You believe that? Its not true of course cause we drafted Robiskie and Norwood. But Coleman was the first since Braylon in the first. And Mayle was the only one drafted under Farmer.
You believe that? Its not true of course cause we drafted Robiskie and Norwood. But Coleman was the first since Braylon in the first. And Mayle was the only one drafted under Farmer.
Get out of here with your ‘facts’. Nothing ruins a good narrative like the ‘facts’ guy.
Just for comparison, here’s what we thought of last year’s draft.
How would you rate the Brown's 2015 draft?
- A+, Awesome! (21%, 3 Votes)
- A- (50%, 7 Votes)
- B (21%, 3 Votes)
- C (7%, 1 Votes)
- D (0%, 0 Votes)
- Absolutely Terrible (0%, 0 Votes)
Total Voters: 14
Loading ...You believe that? Its not true of course cause we drafted Robiskie and Norwood. But Coleman was the first since Braylon in the first. And Mayle was the only one drafted under Farmer.
Get out of here with your ‘facts’. Nothing ruins a good narrative like the ‘facts’ guy.
I love that he ignored the fact that Norwood was a UDFA signed and waived by the Eagles in 2009/2010. We picked him up in 2010.
Freedom!!!
You believe that? Its not true of course cause we drafted Robiskie and Norwood. But Coleman was the first since Braylon in the first. And Mayle was the only one drafted under Farmer.
Get out of here with your ‘facts’. Nothing ruins a good narrative like the ‘facts’ guy.
I love that he ignored the fact that Norwood was a UDFA signed and waived by the Eagles in 2009/2010. We picked him up in 2010.
He may have been thinking about Mohammad Massaquoi, Travis Benjamin, Josh Gordon, Travis Wilson, Syndric Steptoe, Paul Hubbard, Carlton Mitchell, or Greg Little, who have all been drafted since Braylon was picked.
Ice, I think you may have meant the first since Josh Gordon, other than Mayle. Oh, and you owe me an apology for making me look up that list of WR busts. That was painful.
No apologies here. Also, can’t believe we haven’t drafted a single QB since Brady Quinn. It just doesn’t make any sense.
You googled that lol
I did to make sure I was right that he was a UDFA – the only part I had wrong (prior to look up) was I didn’t know the Eagles had him first – I thought we grabbed him UDFA out of college.
Freedom!!!
No apologies here. Also, can’t believe we haven’t drafted a single QB since Brady Quinn. It just doesn’t make any sense.
That’s because we spent all those picks on future announcers.
Freedom!!!
Also, can’t believe we haven’t drafted a single QB since Brady Quinn. It just doesn’t make any sense.
For the Win!
@ice I think I am the only one who ever votes C
I promise I will start being positive once there is something positive beside Gordon’s piss test.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
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