[Shooter]

This is absurdity level 10

I’ve never even heard of something like this. So…….the gameplans need to be approved by A) our incompetent, idiotic, football acumen lacking dunce of an owner, and B) a baseball analytics guy who works from California.

What coach wants to go into a meeting every Friday to have his gameplan second guessed, picked apart and altered by these two? Are you fucking kidding me?

[Ice]

So I’m gonna play Devil’s Advocate.

1) One of the biggest issues with Freddie (this came straight from Landry’s mouth) was that there was no game plan every week. And even when there was, they didn’t follow it. I can see that being a big issue and Haslam doesn’t want that to ever happen again. So he wants to see that there is a plan and it makes sense. Haslam has learned from that 1 mistake.

2) Where would a story like this come from? It didn’t leak from the Browns, and it didn’t leak from the guy they hired. This was leaked from someone who didn’t get the job and wanted to say something bad about the Browns. I’m not saying it’s fabricated, but there’s a good chance it is at least exaggerated.

[DawgSoldier]

So the owner wants to make sure the team is well prepared and shooters pissed…WTF!!!!

See how exaggeration works 😀

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[soup]

I’m with @shooter on this for sure. Why? Imagine on Friday “hey baseball guy, here’s our game plan for Sunday.” Baseball guy, “we need a new one, scrap everything you worked on all week.”

Disaster in waiting

Freedom!!!

[Ice]

soup wrote:

I’m with @shooter on this for sure. Why? Imagine on Friday “hey baseball guy, here’s our game plan for Sunday.” Baseball guy, “we need a new one, scrap everything you worked on all week.”
Disaster in waiting

So if the owner asks for the game plan and the HC taps his own noggin and says ‘It’s all up here…’ that’s ok? Or if he turns in the Maurice Carthon playbook, that’s cool? If that’s the case then yes, scrap everything you worked on all week. How many games could have been won last season if this had happened?

Just trying to give you some counterpoints Shooter, and also doing my constitutional duty to disagree with Soup.

[MDP Sack Attack]

@ice thank you for reminding me of the Maurice Carthon playbook, which made me remember and look up Lawrence Vickers, which led me to an (of interest to only Browns fans) stat: Vickers scored three TDs in his career, and they all came against the Steelers.

[soup]

Ice wrote:

soup wrote:

I’m with @shooter on this for sure. Why? Imagine on Friday “hey baseball guy, here’s our game plan for Sunday.” Baseball guy, “we need a new one, scrap everything you worked on all week.”
Disaster in waiting

So if the owner asks for the game plan and the HC taps his own noggin and says ‘It’s all up here…’ that’s ok? Or if he turns in the Maurice Carthon playbook, that’s cool? If that’s the case then yes, scrap everything you worked on all week. How many games could have been won last season if this had happened?
Just trying to give you some counterpoints Shooter, and also doing my constitutional duty to disagree with Soup.

They have to turn it in for APPROVAL by Friday.

What if they don’t approve the game plan and the game is 2 days away?

That’s what I’m referring to.

A fucking baseball guy is calling 100% of the shots. They may as well just get all the members of this message board together and put coaching titles in a hat and have us pick them out

Freedom!!!

[Shooter]

Oh give me a fucking break. Pump the brakes on the “well hold on a second here, we’re trying to get better and……” nonsense.

We’re not gonna defend this.

There’s no team i football that does or has ever done……this. Ya know why? Because it’s fucking stupid, that’s why. We aren’t talking about 2 wise football minds coming together to try and right a wrong, we’re talking about tweedle dumbfuck and tweedle goddamn dumber. Jimmy Haslam and Paul Depodesta combined know dick about football. I could give two shits what Billy Beancounter has to say on anything that involves football, and Jimmy Haslam probably doesn’t even know what an actual football even is. These guys are clowns, and Jimmy has the most makeup on.

What in the holy hell makes you think that these two people approving (or for the love of god, NOT approving) a gameplan is a good idea? “Oh, I see you’ve got ‘Filter weak XJ slant 43’ in there a couple times this week, but according to our abacus and group of magic 8 balls we are seeing that those plays don’t work on the 3rd Sundays in September in night games, and we kick off after 4 so, remove them”.

Getthefuckouttahere with that shit.

We’re not talking about John Elway telling his coach “hey, I want to see what the gameplan is for this week” or Ozzie Newsome asking what’s on the agenda. Those are HOF football minds, we’re talking about a baseball nerd with a computer, and a fumbling bumbling, Barney Fife-level moron of an owner.

The CLOSER either one of them come to actually COACHING the team and the MORE involved in what happens on Sunday, the more I hope it all literally burns to the ground. That’s an insane idea. It’s insane.

In. Sane.

There’s no playing Devils advocate for this. There isn’t one. They already are the Devils, and they have our souls. Sweet Christ it’s a terrible idea.

[Ice]

Shooter wrote:

There’s no playing Devils advocate for this. There isn’t one.

You’re right, it’s stupid. They shouldn’t have to do it, it’s remedial shit.

Just like the sign on the McDonalds coffee cups that says “contents may be hot”. What kind of idiot doesn’t know that hot coffee might be hot? And yet someone didn’t think it was hot, spilled it on themselves, and sued for millions and won. So now every coffee cup says “Contents may be hot”. Last year we were the idiot spilling coffee on ourselves. We were going into each week without a real gameplan on offense. We got scalded every single week, but still kept ordering our coffee super hot. The only difference is that we didn’t win millions, we lost games. But now Haslam is gonna make damn sure that every HC knows the coffee may be hot. They have to turn in a gameplan every week because one idiot decided not to.

[soup]

I can’t wait until Haslam rejects a game plan because they aren’t calling for them to pull the goalie on the 9th hole

Freedom!!!

[Dawg E. Dawg]

Ice wrote:

Shooter wrote:

There’s no playing Devils advocate for this. There isn’t one.

You’re right, it’s stupid. They shouldn’t have to do it, it’s remedial shit.
Just like the sign on the McDonalds coffee cups that says “contents may be hot”. What kind of idiot doesn’t know that hot coffee might be hot? And yet someone didn’t think it was hot, spilled it on themselves, and sued for millions and won. So now every coffee cup says “Contents may be hot”. Last year we were the idiot spilling coffee on ourselves. We were going into each week without a real gameplan on offense. We got scalded every single week, but still kept ordering our coffee super hot. The only difference is that we didn’t win millions, we lost games. But now Haslam is gonna make damn sure that every HC knows the coffee may be hot. They have to turn in a gameplan every week because one idiot decided not to.

The McDonalds woman ended up with 3rd degree burns and had to get skin graphs. The coffee was served not hot, but ABSURDLY HOT. Nuclear. People like to make fun of that case, but there’s a reason McDs paid out the nose for it.

[Dawg E. Dawg]

soup wrote:

I can’t wait until Haslam rejects a game plan because they aren’t calling for them to pull the goalie on the 9th hole

Reading is key. Nowhere in that article does it say “submit for approval.” It says “submit a game plan.”

So, literally, the Browns requirement is “you have to give our analytics department a game plan so that we can analyze it and then discuss our analysis with you.”

Oh my god the worlds on fire!!! What are they thinking! The horror!!

Seriously, I don’t see the big deal here. All this is, is Josh McDaniels complaining because he didn’t get the job. And part of the reason he didn’t get the job is because he wanted to be the HC/GM/President/Czar and control everything the way he did in Denver, where he crashed and burned.

Think about that for a second. This is Josh McDaniels bitching because he didn’t want to have to listen to feedback from anybody not named Josh McDaniels. Thank god we didn’t hire that douche.

[DawgSoldier]

So what I got out of it is accountablity of the coaching staff to their bosses the owners.

Maybe if Freddie was held to account this season might of been different.

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[soup]

DawgSoldier wrote:

So what I got out of it is accountablity of the coaching staff to their bosses the owners.
Maybe if Freddie was held to account this season might of been different.

The 2 of them looking at a game plan is equivalent to me looking at the plans to build a rocket ship

Freedom!!!

[Ice]

soup wrote:

The 2 of them looking at a game plan is equivalent to me looking at the plans to build a rocket ship

But when they showed the plans to you, you could at least verify that there is a plan…

And the analytics team can at least tell that THIS wouldn’t be good:

[Ice]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/14/haslam-calls-report-hell-get-the-game-plan-inaccurate-and-irresponsible/

Responding to a report that Haslam told Stefanski that they’ll have weekly meetings on Mondays and that he has to turn the game plan into the owner on Fridays, Haslam said the first part is true but the second part is false.

“If you owned a pro football team, would you meet with the head coach the Monday after the game? Of course you would. I mean, of course we would,” Haslam said. “The rumors out there, though, about presenting the game plan, of those kind, are just totally inaccurate. And I really think they’re irresponsible.”

[soup]

Yeah, and Haslam didn’t know anything about the fraud at Flying J either…

Freedom!!!

[BrownsFan4Life]

People will believe anything bad about the Browns based on past history.
As far as analytics goes, it is another tool that you use. It just puts numbers to trends. You analyze what a team might do in regards to down, distance and field position.
I am not hung up on it. You don’t base everything on it but utilize the information gleaned to call the best play relative to the situation.

[Author]

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