[Ice]

This should be fun. I’m going to post 3 ACTUAL scouting reports from ACTUAL NFL scouts. Which would you choose, and if you want to guess who they are go ahead.

QB1

Athletic Ability = 8
Tremendous size and agility. Extends plays with feet and athletic ability. Quick 1 step and 3 step set up in the Gun. Slide steps to avoid rush and steps up with quickness when pocket collapses. On boots and escapes, his shoulders are always aligned with the target. His athletic ability gets him to the perimeter with ease where he will stop on a dime to deliver accurate completions. Very good running ability. Ran some read option as well as lead option. Just as good on the perimeter as he is in the GUN! An athlete in every sense of the word!!
Competitiveness = 8
Lead multiple comeback wins and wants the ball in his hands at all times. Makes something out of nothing with athletic ability. Makes players around him better. Does not get rattled when behind! Will run to keep the chains moving. Gives up his body to win football games. A WINNER!!!
Poise = 8
Set up quickness = 8, 100% in Gun
Arm strength = 9
Delivery quickness = 7
Vision – judgment = 6
Avoids pressure = 7
Accuracy – short and long = 7
Touch = 9
Scramble – throw – run = 8
Summary of run ability
Runs with authority. Will run you over if necessary. Ran some read option, kept the football and made significant yardage. Attacks the perimeter when running and throwing the football with athletic ability and agility. A dual threat runner. Inside with the read option and on the perimeter with boots and escapes. Not only extends plays with his feet but gives receivers more time to get open when he is chased out of the pocket.

Summary of passing ability
Franchise caliber arm strength. Pro Bowl touch on bubble screens and halfback screens. Consistently threw and completed the out cut from the far hash. Balls were thrown to up field hands where receivers extended plays after the catch. Strictly out of the Gun in the passing game. Threw the slants, seams and outs with zip!!!! Touch on all types of screens was superb. Kept 2 hands on the ball for ball balance on most throws.

Strong Points
Arm Strength = 9
Touch = 9
Athletic Ability/ Footwork = 8

Weak Points
Will attempt to squeeze the ball in on a check down to a back once in a while = 5

Summary of Football Ability
Reminds me of Ben Roethlisberger with his size and arm strength although a much, much better athlete. Excellent ball faker who always has head downfield during running and passing plays. Stands tall in the Gun and reads out the progression. Outstanding footwork and touch on bubble and halfback screens. Has the arm strength to make all the throws necessary to attack all leverages and zones in the National Football League. Threw the comeback route from the far college hash with noteworthy velocity!!! Will throw it away and line up again if nothing is open. Just as effective throwing on the perimeter as in the Gun! A unique college Quarterback!

QB2

Athletic Ability = 8
An athletic quarterback who took the ball from under center as well as gun. Fluid footwork from both alignments. Ran the read option and made people miss. No wasted steps when jump cutting. Elusive runner. Kept plays alive with feet and change of direction skills.
Competitiveness = 8
Brought his team back with poise and execution in the last 2 minutes to earn a victory against a quality opponent. Beat you with his arm, legs or both if needed. If time was left this kid could beat you!! A winner. Moved the chains by assignment running in the READ OPTION, in addition to throwing and escaping when necessary. Fought for yards executed after contact. 2 YEAR CAPTAIN.
Poise = 8
Set up quickness = 7
Arm strength = 7
Delivery quickness = 6
Vision – judgment = 7
Avoids pressure = 7
Accuracy – short and long = 6.5
Touch = 7.5
Scramble – throw – run = Scramble = 7
Throw on Run = 8

Summary of run ability
Ran the ball with conviction and power be it the READ OPTION or escaping the pocket to the perimeter. Did not look to run unless all else failed. A quarterback who happens to also be able to run and move the chains in doing so. Stuck his foot in the ground and sent defenders to the turf.

Summary of passing ability
Has the arm strength and weight body transfer to make all the necessary throws in the National Football League. 2 hands on the ball at all times. Coached in the fundamentals of the position. A consistent passing threat in the pocket, on ½ rolls and in the boot passing game. Threw the ball extremely well on the run! Superb touch and athleticism on bootleg middle halfback screens. Threw it away when receivers were covered. Was not asked to hold safeties by looking them off and throwing opposite. Played in a read it out concept passing game not a consistent timing game.

Strong Points
Poise and Pocket Awareness = 8
Instincts / Reading out the Progression = 7
Stepping up into the pocket and delivering the football with hips = 8

Weak Points
Ball was a bit late at times = 5. (Not an arm strength issue) A timing concept
Turned the ball over (Fumbles) = 4

Summary of Football Ability
Big athletic kid who sat in the pocket with confidence and experience. An innate ability to feel pressure and step up consistently and deliver the football. Excellent play action passer who held linebackers in Level 1. (0-5 yards from line of scrimmage) Eyes were always downfield reading out the progression. Threw the receiver screen with velocity yet checked it down with noteworthy touch. Threw “Y” Option with zip and accuracy. Good touch on the fade in the RED ZONE. At times downfield balls were a tad late. This was a result of timing not a lack of arm strength and hip rotation. Stripped on 2 different occasions in the same game. While being tackled during a sack and down field after a rushing attempt. This is a concern. I really like this young man’s upside

QB3

Athletic Ability = 7
More than a mobile Quarterback but not a running QB. Good footwork from strictly the GUN position. Steps up with feet underneath shoulders (balance) to avoid pocket pressure and delivers the football with hips. Solid scrambling ability to gain yardage. Not asked to throw on the run with boots and waggles. A pocket passer who runs to make 1st downs.
Competitiveness = 8
Does not get rattled when things go wrong. Threw (5) picks in [redacted] game and still had a chance to win the game on the last drive.(2) of the picks were tipped and (2) were bad decisions. A DB sliced the receiver to make a great play on one of the picks. He dove to earn a 1st down to ice Washington game win. This kid does what it takes to win!!!! Has a short memory. Next play is is what’s most important to him!!!!
Poise = 8
Set up quickness = 8, 100% in Gun
Arm strength = 8
Delivery quickness = 7
Vision – judgment = 5
Avoids pressure = 7
Accuracy – short and long = 7
Touch = 9
Scramble – throw – run = 6

Summary of run ability
Will run the football to make yardage and move the chains. Will not run to extend passing attempts. Has quick feet to redirect and step up, deliver the football and scramble to run from pressure while heading up field. Has earned big first downs by tucking the football and taking off when pressure. Limited 2 game repetitions in escaping and throwing the football on the run.

Summary of passing ability
This young man has been coached on delivering the football; from footwork, ball balance, to reading out the progression and taking something off the ball when throwing screens, seam passes and “GO” Routes. Demonstrated an excellent touch. Stepped into the pocket and drove the ball with his hips and feet. Threw the slants and skinny posts with accuracy and velocity. Very good ball faker in the play action game. Has eyes downfield when ball faking. Has slight hitch in throwing motion.

Strong Points
Arm Strength = 8
Touch = 9
Stepping up in Pocket = 9

Weak Points
Threw some interceptions when reading the progression and 1 and 2 reads were covered = 5

Summary of Football Ability
This NFL ready college quarterback has been coached in all aspects of the game! Footwork, ball delivery technique, progression reading and poise. Has the arm strength to make the throws on Sunday’s. At the same time, not asked to throw the 20-18 yard comeback from the far college hash mark. Very good ball handler with tremendous touch on bubble screens, jailbreak screens and seam passes. He will make his reads when not throwing quick and his head is consistently on a swivel when executing those plays. Has the athletic ability to extend plays with his feet when avoiding pressure to advance the ball and move the chains. Consistent body balance with feet when throwing the football in conjunction with excellent ball balance. Two hands on football at all times. Did make some poor decisions when reads 1 and 2 were not open rather than throw the ball away. Has all the tools to be a very good NFL QB.

[MDP Sack Attack]

My only takeaway; do NFL scouts really use exclamation points that much?

[BillWunkle]

QB1 is Paxton Lynch, QB2 is Carson Wentz & QB3 is Jared Goff. You already know which one I want & now that the Browns traded out of the #2 slot, they’re not going to get him. If we’re lucky, we’ll get Lynch at #32.

And by the way . . . I totally disagree with the arm strength comparison between Goff and Wentz . . . Wentz’s are is much stronger than Goff’s. The ball shoots out of Wentz’s hand like a rifle shot. Lynch has the strongest arm of all QB’s in this draft, but he’s definitely a project.

Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!

[Dawg E. Dawg]

Just for fun, I’ll stick my neck out there. I’d take:

QB2
QB3
QB1

Thought the write-up on QB1 was enamored with the guys running ability too much. His comments on the passing ability were mostly about screen passes. Give me a passer that can run, not a runner that can pass.

QB 2 and 3 were closer, but the overall summary for QB3 scared me off when they say “has the arm to make all the throws”. If the guy has a good enough arm, they call it a strong arm. If not, they say “he can make all the throws”.

that’s just my 2 cents after a quick read. Could be making myself look pretty silly when Ice reveals who these guys are.

[Shooter]

The best thing I read in this was this line: “More than a mobile Quarterback but not a running QB.”

That is music to my ears. I’ve long made the point that there is a huge difference between a mobile QB and a running QB. Running QB’s don’t win in the NFL. They never have and they never will. Yet year after year, especially in recent years, teams keep taking them and I have no idea why they keep doing it.

Give me a QB whose #1,2,3, and maybe even 4th primary focus is downfield and I’m happy as hell. Especially if that QB can move in the pocket, escape pressure, and if need be in a last ditch effort after a play has completely broken down, make plays with his legs.

I’ll take that all day.

[Ice]

Agree with that Shooter. I don’t mind one that’s mobile in the pocket or moves his launch point but I don’t want a QB that runs for 800 yards a season.

[MDP Sack Attack]

Since I am unable to follow the draft as closely as others here, let me ask you a question: What happened with Lynch? I recall him being the most common pick to go #1 overall back during the season, and now he’s in the conversation at 32. Did he get hurt, have some bad games, punch somebody’s pet? Or is it just general draft speculation?

[soup]

Based off those summaries I’d do 2, 3, 1

Based off my eyes I’d do:

Goff
Lynch
Wentz

Freedom!!!

[Ice]

MDP Sack Attack wrote:

Since I am unable to follow the draft as closely as others here, let me ask you a question: What happened with Lynch? I recall him being the most common pick to go #1 overall back during the season, and now he’s in the conversation at 32. Did he get hurt, have some bad games, punch somebody’s pet? Or is it just general draft speculation?

Good question. Today speculation has arisen that he may free fall, some claim there are maturity issues there. This is just draft day speculation though so it’s tough to assign any credibility to it.

[BillWunkle]

I think it’s a combination of things . . . for starters, he really needs to work on taking snaps from center, he also didn’t make pre-snap reads – the coaches did that from the sideline. He’s the rawest of those considered the top four at the position.

Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!

[Ice]

Sashi’s answer was loud and clear. None of the above. You don’t just grab a QB to grab a QB (like every past Browns regime has done). These guys are waiting for a QB that calls to them. Lets hope it’s in this draft.

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