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Josh Allen played 3 college games against ‘legit’ power 5 teams: Nebraska in 2016, Oregon, and Iowa last year. In those 3 games he completed only 50% of his passes for a TOTAL of 427 yards (average of 142 per game) with 1 TD and 8 INT’s.
Before you say it’s because his team sucked watch the games.
Here’s the best reel I could find of Allen Vs Nebraska.
5 interceptions. Terrible job hitting the RB in the flat behind the line. Once he was so off it was a backwards pass that got returned to the 1. Yes he’s under pressure almost every play. No his receivers didn’t do him any favors, but that game looked EXACTLY like Kizer on the Browns last year. Sometimes he hits. Sometimes he makes amazing plays. And then sometimes you wonder WTF he was thinking about.Here’s Allen vs Iowa.
This is his best game against big competition. He is VERY hard to take down but he’s no Cam Newton. He can scramble occasionally to steal some yards. Think of Roethlisberger early in his career. Again he displays zero touch on the ball and can’t seem to hit a wide open RB in the flat.I couldn’t find a decent video of Allen vs. Oregon, probably because Allen’s agent paid everyone to delete them. He went 9 of 24 for 64 yards. Following that game he deleted his Twitter account. Seriously.
If I had to compare Allen to 1 person already in the NFL, it’s Kizer. Allen has a bigger arm but they both lack accuracy and touch. Neither can hit a runner in stride.
I’m not saying Allen isn’t a decent prospect, I’m saying he’s not a top 5 prospect. And if he couldn’t toss it 80 yards he would be a late round pick.
“17”
“The number of holes Ice puts in his interior walls when the Cleveland Browns take Josh Allen at #4.
+56 internets to @shooter for pulling out the Carnac the Magnificent.
You underrate my laziness though. I would not put 17 holes in my wall. I would keep hitting the same hole right next to my chair so I’m not forced to get up or move. But it won’t happen because the idea of us taking an RB with the 1st overall pick then Allen at 4 is completely laughable.
Lol shooter….
I have to say Ice, I agree with you on Allen. I don’t like skilled players from small schools because it is so hard to really put a solid judgment on their speed.
What we know is he does have a big arm and he does appear to have some consistency in the accuracy department.
What we don’t know is if he will have the ability to read defenses and get rid of the ball quick enough to make any of his strengths matter.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
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Can’t believe none of you Allen fans have come to his defense. Watch those vids with your own eyes and tell me you’re not watching Kizer 2.0.
Watch those vids with your own eyes and tell me you’re not watching Kizer 2.0.
Who else’s eyes would I watch them with but my own?
I was not watching Kizer 2.0.
You didn’t see Kizer on every one of those completely misplaced swing passes to the RB?
No. I saw an extremely raw freak of nature with horrendous footwork that can be corrected while he practices and sits on the bench during games for an entire season.
Allen doesn’t suck, he has correctable flaws. Kizer just sucked, and suck is uncorrectable.
It worked out so well to let qbs sit on the bench and learn. Lol learn from the great Tyrone Taylor.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
You didn’t see Kizer on every one of those completely misplaced swing passes to the RB?
No. I saw an extremely raw freak of nature with horrendous footwork that can be corrected while he practices and sits on the bench during games for an entire season.
Allen doesn’t suck, he has correctable flaws. Kizer just sucked, and suck is uncorrectable.If it was that easy to correct why is he waiting until now to work on it? Case in point. Kessler was extremely accurate. Changed his footwork and he couldn’t hit a brick wall 2 feet away. If it’s so simple more QBs would become better from it. But it’s not easy.
Freedom!!!
Footwork isn’t his only problem. He throws every pass as hard as he can; if there’s a pass he HAS to take the juice off of he has no accuracy.
If it was that easy to correct why is he waiting until now to work on it?
It’s my guess that he himself didn’t realize it was such a major issue, and that his coaches did little to correct it.
If it’s so simple more QBs would become better from it. But it’s not easy.
It is simple, however most won’t want to put in the work. It’s called practice. Repetition. Something much easier to accomplish when the the pressure of playing is taken away.
He throws every pass as hard as he can; if there’s a pass he HAS to take the juice off of he has no accuracy.
I missed DA. It’s been a long time since the Moose from Scappoose was on the loose!!!
Also Ice, it’s time to settle into the fact that Josh Allen will, in fact, be the next QB of the Browns.
Do whatever you need to do to mentally prepare yourself for this. Go through whatever steps you need to go through and arrive at “acceptance”, because on Thursday, Allen will be a Brown.
Ice: He throws every pass as hard as he can; if there’s a pass he HAS to take the juice off of he has no accuracy.
Reality says otherwise Jason….just saying,
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@Dawgsoldier I have a wonderful gift for you…
When the Browns take Darnold 1st overall you get to help me write @Shooter’s new sig. I think it will mean a lot to him that it came from you! Actually I think what I’ll do is change it weekly and let Shooter’s favorite posters each control it for a period of time. @Dude, you’re next!
Also Dawgsoldier I’m on my way out the door so I don’t have time to watch those clips at the moment, but I promise I will and I appreciate you at least making a relevant case FOR Allen.
you get to help me write @shooter‘s new sig. I think it will mean a lot to him that it came from you! Actually I think what I’ll do is change it weekly and let Shooter’s favorite posters each control it for a period of time. @dude, you’re next!
Negative. Access denied. Force close, uninstall.
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@dawgsoldier I have a wonderful gift for you…
When the Browns take Darnold 1st overall you get to help me write @shooter‘s new sig. I think it will mean a lot to him that it came from you! Actually I think what I’ll do is change it weekly and let Shooter’s favorite posters each control it for a period of time. @dude, you’re next!
Also Dawgsoldier I’m on my way out the door so I don’t have time to watch those clips at the moment, but I promise I will and I appreciate you at least making a relevant case FOR Allen.I will now be angry if the Browns pass on Darnold because that would be the funniest torture of all
Freedom!!!
@Soup you have 3rd.
You never responded to the videos I posted Ice.
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You never responded to the videos I posted Ice.
I know, I still haven’t watched them yet. I will though.
Did you watch the ones I posted? They are just videos of all his dropbacks against power 5 teams. Shows the good and the bad, and there’a a lot of bad.
I will though.
That’s a highly questionable statement.
I’ll grant that there’s a chance that, perhaps, sometime in the future, you may find yourself giving the required effort to click the link and focus for a very brief amount of time but honestly I doubt it.
At the very least it doesn’t warrant such a matter of fact guarantee. A “maybe” at best.
He is way too busy making bets and moderating a folder…. Or who gives a shit. Lol
Hue Jackson is a loser.
Ok I watched both of your videos. Partially because I said I would and I’m a man of my word, but also because Shooter said I wouldn’t and he’s wrong again.
1st video- highlights from the Senior Bowl. I watched it live. He won the player of the game or whatever and IMO that was a gift. Like I sad a few months ago I did not come away impressed by that performance. His decision making was not up to snuff and he looked scared.
2nd video – 2 guys who have never played football saying ‘OMG HE THROWS SO FAR!’ and Trent Dilfer pondering the statistical value of completion percentage. So surprising Trent Dilfer (55.5% completion for his career) doesn’t like that stat. Yes it doesn’t tell the whole story. How about 1 TD and 8 INT’s when Allen played decent competition in college? Did you watch the videos I posted? He was not just mediocre, not just bad, he was FUCKING AWFUL against better competition.
It’s funny that they compared him to Brandon Weeden.Shooters wrong again.
On a side note, I am working on shooters signature for my week. Is there a character limit? Because writing a love letter to Loser Jackson is going to take up a lot of space.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
but also because Shooter said I wouldn’t
I did not. I implied that you are lazy and that it was doubtful you would. Details my friend. (Rubs hands at how I was able to manipulate you).
he’s wrong again.
An even more questionable statement. In fact, I’d call that one downright irresponsible. Delusional and overconfident with a nice naivete crust. It’s basically a shit pot pie.
It’s funny that they compared him to Brandon Weeden.
They compared his arm strength to Brandon Weedens when discussing pure arm strength measurables. Big difference.
Shooters wrong again.
I have to be wrong once to be wrong again, and since there is no evidence of the former it’s mathematically impossible for there to be a latter. I’m instructing the jury to strike that comment from the record and declare your entire statement inadmissible.
On a side note, I am working on shooters signature for my week.
You can work on that shit til rapture, it ain’t going in.
Yup Ice I noticed off the jump his targets were in the words of Charles Barkley were “”TURRIBLE”” Wentz I swear had better guys to throw to in D2. SMH.
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You can work on that shit til rapture, it ain’t going in.
Thats what she said
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Ha! Dawgsoldier with the perfect comeback. Pity the people on the site who blocked you won’t be able to see it. Their loss.
Also quit reporting my posts you bunch of silly assholes.
No loss on not reading that guy’s posts I promise you. I read plenty of his hateful posts on the other forum.
On a side note, I just reported.
You may want to move that button. I have reported half a doesn’t time trying to reply on the mobile.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
Pity the people on the site who blocked you won’t be able to see it. Their loss.
I lost nothing. He’s a hateful, psychotic asshole who is most likely retarded. He’s at least on the spectrum anyway.
Very glad I can’t see him here.
I lost nothing. He’s a hateful, psychotic asshole who is most likely retarded AND WILL MAKE A TERRIFIC ADDITION TO MY SIGNATURE AFTER I LOSE MY BET.
Fixed it for you.
I don’t really think you understand what the word “terms” means.
Not that it matters. I’m shattering souls around here in 2 days lol.
The only term we set in the deal is that the winner controls the loser’s sig for 6 months. There were no terms about who could provide the content for the sig.
There were no terms about who could provide the content for the sig.
What you are describing is a caveat.
The terms were pretty specific in their implication that you, would be the one controlling the content of said signature. You write it, I post it, it stays for 6 months.
Caveats are not in play in professional internet message board wagering. I thought that for sure you of all people knew that, what with owning one and and all.
Do we have a Welcher??????
YOu have to lose a bet then refuse to pay up when you lose to be a welcher.
Since no results are in yet, making such a statement is not possible.
Be gone with you.
No accusations yet….. Just don’t go soup on us…. It is only a little signature professing your love for Loser Hue Jackson
Hue Jackson is a loser.
Someone may have to ask soup cause he blocks me, but I am curious does anyone remember what the epic bet was on Dawg bones? I thought it was soup and tree and tree Welcher on the bet for like 21 pages lol
Hue Jackson is a loser.
No accusations yet….. Just don’t go soup on us….
Fear not, I’m a man of my word.
Thirsty Shooter?
Only for your tears.
And I shall drink them!
If the Browns QB race is a two man one, I think that it’s between Josh Allen and Josh Rosen. Personally, I still see far too many mechanical flaws with Sam Darnold. Then you add into the equation Darnold’s lack of ball security and the fact that he does not play as well inside the pocket with a sense of timing and structure as the other two mentioned places Darnold no better than third on my list.
Then again, none of us are making the decision for the Cleveland Browns, so I for one can hardly wait for the Browns to officially be on the clock.
Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic landmass!
The only term we set in the deal is that the winner controls the loser’s sig for 6 months. There were no terms about who could provide the content for the sig.
False. It’s 1 year. I changed your terms you pansies. On a side note, how funny is it that ound 1 of the draft is the last day for my signature?
For the record, you’ll hear nothing from me tomorrow. I’ll be at a concert.
Freedom!!!
On a side note, how funny is it that ound 1 of the draft is the last day for my signature?
Funny?
That’s not funny. It’s a shame. A real, real shame. That sig line represented all that is right with the internet. It’s almost un-american that that glorious, shining beacon of truth and forever reality will no longer be shining for all too see.
A dark day indeed.
False. It’s 1 year. I changed your terms you pansies.
Shhhhh. Don’t embarrass yourself.
Back to Allen…
The draft eve jinx hit him as some reporter decided it would be worth their time to go through each of the QB’s twitter history since birth. Apparently Josh Allen said some racist stuff when he was in high school. It’s not exactly the image of Rex Grossman doing whippits at a party but clearly this hit was timed to do the most damage.
I’m not a fan of Allen the QB, but Allen the person seems to be a decent human being. He said something really dumb in high school, as we all have done. I’m sure whatever it was he was joking and really really regrets it now. Doesn’t affect my opinion of him at all (caveat I haven’t read the tweets just a description of them).
The person who really needs to take a good long hard look at themselves is the ‘reporter’ who spent countless hours combing through the tweets of children trying to find something juicy or offensive.I don’t think he said anything bad. He used the N-word.
But not in a mean-spirited racist way, like “Niggers are dumb” or some shit like that. He said it like he was some rap artist, as many 14-year-old idiot white kids are want to do. “Hey wassup nigga, we gonna go to McDonalds you comin?”. “I beat all these niggas at ping pong”.
Big……..fucking…….deal.
Does he sound like an idiot? Of course. I’d knock the shit out of my son if I found out he was walking around talking like he was Whiz Khalifa, and using that moron dialect prevalent in everything hip hop.
But racist? Lmao, no. Far from it. Sorry, but either the use of the “N-word” goes away completely from our society once and for all, or everyone in America unequivocally accepts the fact that “nigga” has replaced “dude” as a reference to a person and all the whining about it being racist or used by a white person can just stop.
This is dumb.
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