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- April 28, 2018 at 12:23 pm #12346mike barnesParticipant
Browns select Antonio Callaway Flordia
April 28, 2018 at 1:44 pm #12348IceKeymasterDislike.
April 28, 2018 at 1:53 pm #12349ShooterModeratorWhy waste a pick on a total piece of shit like this dude? Sexual assault, stolen credit cards, and stoned 24/7.
Horrible selection. This changes my idea of Dorsey a lot.
April 28, 2018 at 2:01 pm #12350soupParticipantWhy waste a pick on a total piece of shit like this dude? Sexual assault, stolen credit cards, and stoned 24/7.
Horrible selection. This changes my idea of Dorsey a lot.“Callaway was found not responsible of sexually assaulting the female student by an independent hearing officer in a Title IX hearing.”
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April 28, 2018 at 2:23 pm #12351ShooterModerator“Callaway was found not responsible of sexually assaulting the female student by an independent hearing officer in a Title IX hearing.”
Sounds cool. Pay no attention to the fact that the independent hearing officer was a Florida booster. I’m sure it was totally fair.
He’s a rapist, a thief, and a drug addict. Fuck him.
April 28, 2018 at 2:35 pm #12352soupParticipant“Callaway was found not responsible of sexually assaulting the female student by an independent hearing officer in a Title IX hearing.”
Sounds cool. Pay no attention to the fact that the independent hearing officer was a Florida booster. I’m sure it was totally fair.
He’s a rapist, a thief, and a drug addict. Fuck him.She reported it to the school, not the police. If she’s going to report it to the school, why not press charges with the police? Answer: Because it didn’t happen.
Can’t comment on thief or drugs, I didn’t see anything, but I also didn’t overly search for it.
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April 28, 2018 at 3:21 pm #12353soupParticipant@shooter If we turned around and traded him for Tyreek Hill of the Chiefs would you still have that lost respect for Dorsey?
Why do I ask this? Dorsey vetted and took the same shot on Hill as he is on this guy. Hill, admitted to the felony of choking his pregnant girlfriend in 2014 while at OK. Hill is now one of the best players in the NFL.
My personal opinion aside (that if Gordon came in the league in stage 86 like Goodell had him in – Hill should’ve come in at a lifetime suspension) in the realm of football and nothing else. A 4th round risk for a guy like this is worth it. Hill worked out. Same guy that vetted Hill – vetted this guy.
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April 28, 2018 at 4:25 pm #12355the dudeParticipantTerrible pick. What is wrong with this organization.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
April 29, 2018 at 7:17 am #12361ShooterModeratorDorsey vetted and took the same shot on Hill
Forgot about the Tyreek Hill incident. What a piece of shit he is too. It’s clear that Dorsey doesn’t give a shit what you do off the field. Sexual assault? Domestic violence? Stolen credit card fraud? Drugs? Hey no problem buddy boy, as long as you’re good at football none of that shit matters!
April 29, 2018 at 7:35 am #12364soupParticipantDorsey vetted and took the same shot on Hill
Forgot about the Tyreek Hill incident. What a piece of shit he is too. It’s clear that Dorsey doesn’t give a shit what you do off the field. Sexual assault? Domestic violence? Stolen credit card fraud? Drugs? Hey no problem buddy boy, as long as you’re good at football none of that shit matters!
His job is to get the best players for the team to win games. If the law doesn’t care about them enough to put them in prison then he can put them on the field.
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April 29, 2018 at 7:44 am #12365ShooterModeratorIf the law doesn’t care about them enough to put them in prison then he can put them on the field.
Horrible way to build a franchise. Let’s just bring in as many Pacman Jones’, Aldon Smiths’, Vontez Burfict’s, Ben Roethlisburger’s and Greg Hardy’s as we can!!! We can have a “Bitches and Guns” day at the stadium where tickets are half price if you bring both! Free admission if you beat your bitch WITH your gun at the box office! You have to be high to qualify though.
If you thought football was violent on the field, just wait until the after party! No means “fuck you bitch. it’s happening!”
Fun for the whole family! The road to the superbowl will run through Cleveland!!! Fuck Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 29, 2018 at 10:07 am #12371GABrownsFanParticipantNow THIS is a guy with legitimate immaturity and character issues. Big time.
Incredible talent, ten-cent brain. Hopefully this guy can straighten up and fly right, but I won’t be counting on it.
We could have done much better with our fourth rounder.
April 29, 2018 at 10:26 am #12373ShooterModeratorNow THIS is a guy with legitimate immaturity and character issues. Big time.
Exactly.
Now, compare Baker Mayfield and his “off the field” issues and “immaturity” problems, and compare him to this amazing piece of shit.
See the difference lol?
1 is absolutely real, the other is fabricated, exaggerated whining.
April 29, 2018 at 4:14 pm #12379IceKeymasterNow, compare Baker Mayfield and his “off the field” issues and “immaturity” problems, and compare him to this amazing piece of shit.
Maybe that’s exactly why they drafted him.
April 29, 2018 at 6:10 pm #12380soupParticipantIf the law doesn’t care about them enough to put them in prison then he can put them on the field.
Horrible way to build a franchise. Let’s just bring in as many Pacman Jones’, Aldon Smiths’, Vontez Burfict’s, Ben Roethlisburger’s and Greg Hardy’s as we can!!! We can have a “Bitches and Guns” day at the stadium where tickets are half price if you bring both! Free admission if you beat your bitch WITH your gun at the box office! You have to be high to qualify though.
If you thought football was violent on the field, just wait until the after party! No means “fuck you bitch. it’s happening!”
Fun for the whole family! The road to the superbowl will run through Cleveland!!! Fuck Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!He took a chance on 1. So you equate 1 with 53?
Can you tell me how you did that math?
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April 30, 2018 at 8:52 am #12381the dudeParticipantSoup you have children. How do you tell your children it is ok to root for this?
Hue Jackson is a loser.
April 30, 2018 at 10:00 am #12382ShooterModeratorSoup you have children. How do you tell your children it is ok to root for this?
Thank you. Perfectly stated.
He took a chance on 1.
And it was 1 too many.
April 30, 2018 at 10:16 am #12383soupParticipantSoup you have children. How do you tell your children it is ok to root for this?
Thank you. Perfectly stated.
He took a chance on 1.
And it was 1 too many.
From your first quote, that would be simple. Emulate the player on the field. Not off the field. You teach the right from the wrong. If they are your favorite because they are a great player, watch them on the field and leave that as is. That’s the job if a parent. To teach.
That’s fine that you think it’s one too many. Root for him to break his leg or suck.
I root for the team, not the name on the jersey. If he’s a great player who learned from his mistakes, fantastic
On the flip side, you now have no choice but to hate Cris Carter. He shouldn’t be in the HOF. Neither should Lawrence Taylor, among many others if you look at off field actions.
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April 30, 2018 at 2:20 pm #12388ShooterModeratorYou can go ahead and spin or twist or whatever you like into making this into something else.
I’m simply stating that I don’t like pieces of shit on my football team. And this guy is a piece of shit. He’s a rapist, he’s a fucking thief, and he’s a doping thug asshole.
Why would I be excited about that?
It’s just like the conversation that I have with my brother in law all the time. A conversation you know all about. He’s from Pittsburgh and a die hard Steelers fan with 2 daughters. I ask him, how can you cheer for Ben? How can you with a clear conscience cheer for a guy who in all seriousness should still be in prison for what he did? Especially when he did it more than once? He raped a woman in a bathroom of a bar. Period. End of story. He’s a fucking piece of shit.
He should have been treated like one.
Now I’m not expecting saints for football players. Guys are going to drink, get DUI’s, probably toke the reefer, speed in fast cars, and occasionally get into fights. They’re a bunch of young, rich Alpha-males, it’s kind of expected to a certain degree.
But when you’re raping or beating women, hurting people, being a thief and a liar and a drug addict, and generally being a disrespectful, non-fuck-giving piece of shit, I can’t root for that kind of player.
That’s my point.
April 30, 2018 at 2:32 pm #12389soupParticipantAgain, no wrong doing was found. If he sexually assaulted her she should’ve gone to the police, but didn’t.
If you haven’t seen it, watch Tyson on HBO. He was in prison for several years for a rape he never committed. In fact, the accuser falsely accused multiple people.
Being accused doesn’t mean you’re guilty. If there was actual evidence she’s have gone to the police, not the school
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April 30, 2018 at 3:04 pm #12390the dudeParticipantTyson we to jail because he raped someone. You can make whatever documentary that you want, but they never removed his felony. He is a convicted felon.
Money talks in this world. If you are that small minded as a person who does not believe people are paid off, then I feel really bad for you.
The bullshit of rooting for a player on the field verses off the field is garbage and not an argument. I will never align myself with a rapist.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
April 30, 2018 at 5:25 pm #12392soupParticipantTyson we to jail because he raped someone. You can make whatever documentary that you want, but they never removed his felony. He is a convicted felon.
Money talks in this world. If you are that small minded as a person who does not believe people are paid off, then I feel really bad for you.
The bullshit of rooting for a player on the field verses off the field is garbage and not an argument. I will never align myself with a rapist.After trying to find where @shooter got his quote I now see it was from you. Which is why I didn’t see it. But I can’t resist replying to this.
Tyson didn’t rape anyone. His handlers gave him a tax attorney to defend him. After all was done he later found out this woman falsely accused around 5 different guys trying to get money. She was a gold digger. But let’s say he did rape her. Okay, convicted rapists branded a rapist, fine.
Then you go on to say that the guy the Browns drafted is a rapist. A guy who was cleared of all wrongdoing, never arrested, never charged, never even on trial for it.
So in your world accusation = guilt.
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May 1, 2018 at 7:54 am #12394ShooterModeratorThere’s no question or debate that Mike Tyson was completely railroaded. He did absolutely nothing wrong and was taken advantage of horribly.
May 1, 2018 at 7:58 am #12395ShooterModeratorAnother point to consider here is what kind of impact it could have on Josh Gordon. For obvious reasons, it could get really ugly really fast. Why bring that kind of toxicity around a guy like Gordon? Why risk that? The Browns could find themselves without both of them after one night, and then you’d have to question how good of an idea it was for Dorsey to bring a person of this type of character in the locker room to begin with.
Is it the browns responsibility to keep Gordon’s head on straight? No, it’s not. It’s Gordon’s. But that said if you had a friend who was an alcoholic, you wouldn’t invite him over to your house and offer him a beer. That’s exactly what Dorsey is doing here, and that’s just fucking stupid.
May 1, 2018 at 8:11 am #12399IceKeymasterYou guys know I’m a serious doubter of Gordon, but maybe this is a vote of confidence in him. Maybe they feel he’s to the point where he’s strong enough not to just control himself but also to mentor someone else.
May 1, 2018 at 10:28 am #12400the dudeParticipantYea iron Mike did nothing wrong soup.
If anything, you just showed us all how truly gullible you are.
Enjoy your Sundays rooting for a rapist in front of your kids. I will be rooting for him to get hurt.
Hue Jackson is a loser.
May 1, 2018 at 11:59 am #12403soupParticipantYea iron Mike did nothing wrong soup.
If anything, you just showed us all how truly gullible you are.
Enjoy your Sundays rooting for a rapist in front of your kids. I will be rooting for him to get hurt.Who on the team is a rapist? The guy who was found not guilty of any wrongdoing?
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May 1, 2018 at 12:52 pm #12405ShooterModeratorYea iron Mike did nothing wrong soup.
Well, he didn’t so…….
May 1, 2018 at 1:34 pm #12406soupParticipantYea iron Mike did nothing wrong soup.
Well, he didn’t so…….
That’s why he’s been on ignore for so long for me. If you hadn’t grabbed a quote from him I wouldn’t have seen any of it.
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May 1, 2018 at 2:10 pm #12407Dawg E. DawgParticipantYou guys crack me up with the way you interpret things. First, he was accused of sexual assault. Nobody ever said rape. Sexual assault covers a LOT of things, many are much less severe than rape. He’s not a rapist.
Second, the woman reportedly had witnesses, and they boycotted the hearing when a Florida booster was assigned to it. Does that sound like they were accusing him of rape? Not to me. Not if they let it go that easily.
If she had witnesses but didn’t go to the cops, that tells me it wasn’t that severe, and they were probably all stoned, drunk, etc.
The stolen credit cards and smoking and stuff, yeah that’s all bad shit. Gainesville being Gainesville, it’s not that surprising. That said, the most concerning part of it is that he’s really dumb. Tiki said it best on his talk show yesterday. The weed test is the easiest test to pass at the combine, if you can’t pass that, you’re just dumb. You know you’re going to be tested, so just don’t smoke. Easy as that.
But honestly, like 90% if the league smokes and they just don’t do it around when they know they’ll be tested. I’m not gonna lose sleep over a draft pick that smokes.
May 1, 2018 at 2:13 pm #12409the dudeParticipantYea iron Mike did nothing wrong soup.
Well, he didn’t so…….
That’s why he’s been on ignore for so long for me. If you hadn’t grabbed a quote from him I wouldn’t have seen any of it.
You so bad ass
Hue Jackson is a loser.
May 1, 2018 at 2:15 pm #12410the dudeParticipantYea weed stuff doesn’t bother me… Between nba and nfl… Almost all of them smoke it…
Dawg I apologize if I misread…. Lots of internet boards saying it was rape. Do you have a good article that details it????
Hue Jackson is a loser.
May 1, 2018 at 3:33 pm #12411ShooterModeratorI don’t see much of a difference between rape and sexual assault.
May 1, 2018 at 3:40 pm #12412Dawg E. DawgParticipantYea weed stuff doesn’t bother me… Between nba and nfl… Almost all of them smoke it…
Dawg I apologize if I misread…. Lots of internet boards saying it was rape. Do you have a good article that details it????I’m basing my 2 cents off wiki and an ESPN article
I just chimes in because sexual assault is one of those buzzwords, like domestic violence, that it’s very easy for an athlete to get mislabeled with, and then it’s impossile to get rid of.
Now, I have 2 daughters and grew up with 2 older sisters. Believe me, if you hit a woman, I WILL be the one to throw the first stone. Your ass is grass. I just don’t jump to conclusions anymore because we live in a very much guilty until proven innocent society today.
The other stuff, obviously he’s not a clean guy. I just don’t have a shit about it in a fourth round WR. All I care is does he possess the minimum amount of intelligence and will power to know how to stay clean and maintain nfl eligibility. That doesn’t look great, but it’s impossoibe I know without talking to him and those around him.
May 1, 2018 at 4:57 pm #12415ShooterModeratorThe other stuff, obviously he’s not a clean guy.
That’s the part that gets me, and I feel lends credence to the other accusations. If you’re a normal guy, no record, never been in trouble, and a girl screams rape, benefit of the doubt should be warranted and allow due process to be played out accordingly.
If you’re an oft arrested drug addict with a record, a thief, and a liar, it’s a lot easier to simply say “yeah I saw that one coming”. Do I know if he’s guilty? No, I don’t. Is it fair that I’m labeling him as such? Probably not. But the reality is where there’s smoke there’s usually fire, and it’s not too hard to imagine a piece of shit doing some piece of shit things.
Even if he didn’t assault her, he probably did some assholish shit to get her mad enough to say he did, which still makes him a piece of shit in my book whether he’s a rapist or not.
I just don’t have much tolerance for this kind of shit anymore. Maybe I’m just getting old, I dunno.
May 2, 2018 at 8:27 am #12425IceKeymasterClearly it’s a huge risk. 1st round talent for sure. There are 2 issues for the Browns; how much will he be on the field, and how much of a shadow will he cast on the entire organization? You keep him off social media and away from the press and you solve the latter problem. You’re relying on him to do what it takes to stay on the field.
It’s a 4th round pick. It’s not a huge amount to risk; if he screws up and never steps on the field then it only cost us a Beau Bell pick.
Still you’ll never see me wear his jersey even if he is an amazing talent.
May 2, 2018 at 9:30 am #12426Dawg E. DawgParticipantI don’t see much of a difference between rape and sexual assault.
I tried to find a good definition, but one doesn’t exist. Basically, sexual assault can cover a lot of shit and it depends on what state your in as to what the exact definition is. Since there was no legal charge, I don’t know what the University of Florida’s definition is. But, it can cover anything from nonconsensual fondling to rape.
So, for instance, this guy COULD have been at a party stoned, got too handsy, and she got pissed and tried to get him suspended. Or he could have raped her. We don’t know. Since she didn’t bother going to the police and boycotted the school hearing, I’m inclined to believe it was closer to the former than the latter.
May 2, 2018 at 5:22 pm #12432ShooterModeratorClearly it’s a huge risk.
Huge.
“Hey Josh wassup nigga. After practice let’s go party, fuck some bitches. I know you down with that Florida Kush, I got that shit in suitcases bruh. Swing by the pad nigga we can vibe fa days aiight”
What could go wrong?
May 17, 2018 at 3:50 pm #12509soupParticipantFor those stating he was guilty of sexual assault (even though he was found not guilty) I present to you:
Rueben Foster. Accused of domestic violence and in court for it:
“Reuben Foster stoic w/ no expression as he follows attorney out of courtroom for lunch recess, after explosive testimony from ex-girlfriend about not only lying but assaulting Foster, stealing money&Rolex watches from him, & admitting to jail term for false DV claim in Louisiana”
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