We literally cannot fall further than 5th place in the conference with a loss. Do you understand that? With a loss, we wouldn’t move down a single spot in rankings. I don’t care what kind of bull sit reasoning you have, there’s no possible way to define this as a “must win”.

2007 was completely different. I think everybody agreed Ci…[Read more]

This was a fun thread. Akin to Soups “Fire Stefanski” thread five minutes into the season.

With all due respect DS, and I mean with ALL DUE RESPECT, you can shove this thread straight up your ass.

Again, my type of thinking does not impact the Browns. I was have to be a complete narcissist to think otherwise.

And a I pointed out above, the Steelers own the tiebreakers against the Browns. They would have to lose either to either the Washington Football Team or the Bengals, AND the Bills, AND the Colts, AND the Browns.

I can get on…[Read more]

We absolutely control our own destiny. If we lose the next 2, we can still go 11-5, and that absolutely undeniably gets us in.

The whole “must win scenario” is about making the playoffs, not seeding in the playoffs. If the goal is to get the 5th seed, then I agree it’s a must win.

But. The reality is we’re not getting a home playoff game. Week 1 is guaranteed on the road for wildcard team, and IF there’s a week 2, the odds of getting a home are very very slim even…[Read more]

why are you fixated on the damn Ravens? There are 2 other wildcard spots. Even if we lose both those games, we still only need to beat 2 of the colts, Dolphins, and raiders, and they’ve all got losses left on their schedule.

If you’re talking strictly a “must win to make the playoffs” this isn’t it.

Also, Jonny Smith is out this weekend,…[Read more]

His replacement is a rookie who was a 3rd round draft pick, Alex Highsmith. He hasn’t started a game in his career yet, though that’s because he’s had Dupree and Watt ahead of him.

Hopefully he’s not ready for the NFL and there’s a significant drop off from Dupree.

My mentality doesn’t impact the Browns one single iota. Do I want them to win? Absolutely. Do they realistically need to go 11-5 to make the playoffs? No. No they don’t.

I do agree with DS that the Browns really do need to win if they hope to do anything in the playoffs. Squeaking into the playoffs and going to Pittsburgh or Kansas Cit…[Read more]

In 2007, we would have made the playoffs if there were 3 wild card teams

*insert Kermit sipping coffee meme*

So, along the lines a being a must win, I decided to see if, at the 3 games back, the division is still in play for the Browns. Short version: it’s not, but it’s not as far out as I would have thought.

The Steelers still have the Bills and Colts on their schedule. They’ll be favored, but I at least consider those losable games for the Steel…[Read more]

10-6 absolutely gets in. I said it last week, and I stand by it. Your claiming victory calling last week a must win, but we’d be in the same position today if we’d lost. So you have no reasoning to back it up.

Reasonably, we have to beat 2 of the colts, Dolphins, ravens, and raiders. We have at least a game on each. The colts/raiders hav…[Read more]

Had to look up this thread and give Depodesta credit.

Can you imagine where we would be if the numb nuts owner had listed to Paul Depodesta and hired Stefanski instead of Kitchens?

Also, let that sink in. The Haslams interviewed Freddy Kitchens and Kevin Stefanski, had their chief strategy officer, a guy who’s only job is to make these kind o…[Read more]

Damn report button, too close to the quote button, lol.

But seriously. The browns put up 27 points yesterday. In spite of a fumble from Bryant, and getting absolutely hosed by the refs.

27 is the same as what the Steelers put up on them last week, and more than the packers and Texans in the weeks before that. Those qbs threw picks against…[Read more]

It should have been, but they spotted it horribly. They moved it up 2 yards because they acknowledged Hunt wasn’t down, but the line to gain was the 21, so the ref basically said “we’re going to mark it short for the line to gain, then measure to see if he made the line to gain.”

On the 4th down play, I have nothing. They showed the ball an…[Read more]

That stare down was BAD ASS! He was telling the ref, you don’t have the balls to throw another flag. With his eyes.

That first challenge on Harrison’s dropped TD…woof. What was he thinking.

The refs…I don’t know what they were doing. Calling Hunt down 2 yards short when he clearly wasn’t down was absolutely absurd. But then they got the spot wrong (should’ve been a 1st if they spotted it correctly), AND wrongfully take the challenge and charge Clevela…[Read more]

Our pick hasn’t been higher than 19 at best since at least 2002, since those spots are all reserved for playoff teams. I think 18 in 2019, which we traded away in the OBJ trade, is the highest we’ve had in a long time.

I just hope it’s not damn 22, and that we aren’t talking draft for awhile yet, lol.

You’re delusional. This doesn’t make this any more or less of a “must win”. And nobody said we need to throw the ball all over the place one time, so nobody can possibly tell you that again.

I said Baker needs to play well, even if it’s in a ball control role. Which I stand by. He needs to hit some big passes to keep defenses from stacking…[Read more]

Also also, the Ravens top 2 RBs just tested positive for Covid. I HATE being happy that the damn Steelers have an easier game, but this is definitely going to make it difficult for Baltimore to pull off the upset.

Not at all a must win mathematically. With 3 wild card spots in the afc, I’d say 10-6 gets us in. And with the jets and giants on the schedule, a loss Sunday just means we have to win one from TEN-BAL-PIT, and the first 2 of those seem winnable.

HOWEVER, I don’t see how can lose to the 1-9 jags, and get the mentality of the team right to win…[Read more]