Ice replied to the topic David Njoku asks for trade in the forum Browns Forum 5 years, 9 months ago
@soup Well no 1st rounders but a bunch of 2nd rounders.
@dawgsoldier Keep dreaming!
@MPD From what I hear our base set will be 2 TE. With Njoku gone that means we’re relying on a mid-round draft pick as a starter and that’s not a great thing.
soup replied to the topic David Njoku asks for trade in the forum Browns Forum 5 years, 9 months ago
@ice who went in to success the way you described? He’s just another big guy with no hands.
Ice replied to the topic David Njoku asks for trade in the forum Browns Forum 5 years, 9 months ago
It’s a shame. I like Njoku but honestly last year was the year he needed to prove himself and he didn’t. He got injured then somehow ended up in Freddy’s doghouse and didn’t produce at all.
It’s the typical path for the Browns. Grab a guy with a 1st round pick, guy shows flashes but not enough, Browns trade him for a late round pick, guy goes on…[Read more]
soup replied to the topic David Njoku asks for trade in the forum Browns Forum 5 years, 9 months ago
Rosenhaus is his agent. He’ll be out of the league in a year. No clue how Rosenhaus still gets players
the dude replied to the topic Mayfield will kneel during the anthem in the forum Browns Forum 5 years, 10 months ago
@ice if you don’t want to be reminded of politics during football Sundays, you will have an awakening…. It is an election year.
I choose to stand for the flag. Of course, my ancestors were not lynched or whipped and forced to work for opposite race. So I don’t blame one side or the other.
You know what other countries force people to stand…[Read more]
Ice replied to the topic Mayfield will kneel during the anthem in the forum Browns Forum 5 years, 10 months ago
Highly likely that will happen. Even if the NFL doesn’t broadcast it, news outlets surely will. I fully expect photos of every team on the sidelines kneeling during the anthem to be front page on every website.
soup replied to the topic Mayfield will kneel during the anthem in the forum Browns Forum 5 years, 10 months ago
Unless the NFL reverses their TV policy you won’t be reminded. They stopped showing the anthem on TV
Ice replied to the topic Mayfield will kneel during the anthem in the forum Browns Forum 5 years, 10 months ago
It sounds like the entire team will be taking a knee during the anthem. Our new HC is very ‘woke’.
I absolutely hate injecting politics into football, whether I agree with the politics or not. I don’t want to be reminded of the ‘real world’ when I’m watching my Browns on Sunday.
soup replied to the topic Mayfield will kneel during the anthem in the forum Browns Forum 5 years, 10 months ago
While I respect your position, taking a knee in silence isn’t the same as holding up degrading signs. The issue people saying it’s disrespectful to the military is:
“ Retired Army Green Beret Nate Boyer is the man who first convinced Colin Kaepernick to kneel during the national anthem.”
A veteran convinced him to kneel. They tell you they ar…[Read more]
soup replied to the topic Mayfield will kneel during the anthem in the forum Browns Forum 5 years, 10 months ago
Get pulled over by police and killed simply for the color of your skin and the flag will mean something different to you.
The point is – when they tell you it’s not about the military nor disrespectful to the military – they are telling the truth. Just as you standing and saluting doesn’t make you racist or disrespecting black lives…[Read more]
soup replied to the topic Mayfield will kneel during the anthem in the forum Browns Forum 5 years, 10 months ago
Why would he care if he loses fans? How is that immature? He doesn’t make money off of having fans. He makes it off production. Being a leader has zero to do with fans, it has to do with teammates who he just publicly told he has their backs and will kneel. No fan who is against kneeling will claim they’d respect him if he said it the way you…[Read more]
the dude replied to the topic Mayfield will kneel during the anthem in the forum Browns Forum 5 years, 10 months ago
I don’t care if you knee or stand. It is your prefence and people defend our lives for your freedom of speech everyday. I just ask be respectful of people’s choices.
soup replied to the topic Mayfield will kneel during the anthem in the forum Browns Forum 5 years, 10 months ago
He cares about his friends more than the flag. I’d be right along side him.
soup started the topic Mayfield will kneel during the anthem in the forum Browns Forum 5 years, 10 months ago
Feel free to remove this post if you find it too political. Only posting because it’s Browns related
BillWunkle wrote a new post, Wunkle on wunkle: the covid-19 edition 5 years, 10 months ago
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BillWunkle replied to the topic Who are the 4 best Browns all time? in the forum Browns Forum 5 years, 10 months ago
There are compelling arguments for all the names mentioned. However, if it were up to me, this would be my list . . .
1 – Jim Brown: Enough said there.
2 – Otto Graham: The only Browns QB to win multiple league championships. As beloved as Brian Sipe and Bernie Kosar are in Cleveland, neither of them can make that claim. He was also the…[Read more]
Ice replied to the topic Who are the 4 best Browns all time? in the forum Browns Forum 5 years, 10 months ago
Good take. I agree that JT would be the 5th option. My reservation with him is twofold; 1) He wasn’t always considered the best player at his position while he was playing and 2) he did not revolutionize his position.
Ice started the topic Who are the 4 best Browns all time? in the forum Browns Forum 5 years, 10 months ago
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/cleveland-browns-all-time-mount-rushmore
I was ready to throw down upon seeing this article but the 4 they picked; Brown, Graham, Newsome, and Groza, are the 4 I would have said. All 4 of them completely revolutionized the position they played.
Anyone disagree with that list?
BillWunkle replied to the topic Browns offer DE Clowney a contract in the forum Browns Forum 5 years, 11 months ago
If Berry offered Clowney a one-year “prove it” deal, that’s fine. His stats have not matched up to the talent of a top five draft pick. Let him earn his money and deal with any consequences next year.
soup replied to the topic Browns’ Callahan impressed w/Stefanski’s virtual leadership etc in the forum Browns Forum 5 years, 11 months ago
Mcafee is insanely nice and jovial. He was an for an on air interview at the stations I work at and I was walking on that floor looking for one of the jocks. He was walking by me and immediately cane up and introduced himself with a genuine smile. I didn’t even know he was in the building. Sean Casey introduces himself to me once too and h…[Read more]
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