soup replied to the topic John Dorsey Browns draft picks etc in the forum Browns Forum 6 years, 2 months ago
My point on Callaway is who was the rousing success in round 4 we should have picked
Ice replied to the topic John Dorsey Browns draft picks etc in the forum Browns Forum 6 years, 2 months ago
I guess you’ll have to define ‘football guy’ for me to answer.
soup replied to the topic John Dorsey Browns draft picks etc in the forum Browns Forum 6 years, 2 months ago
Good points on Avery compared with other doghouse guys.
Who else leading did we have that was a football guy? Holmgren was a football coach, not a “football guy” in GM terms (he made that obvious in Seattle). I should’ve been more specific in regards to football guy as a GM
Ice replied to the topic John Dorsey Browns draft picks etc in the forum Browns Forum 6 years, 2 months ago
Agree. He’s a guy that fell due to off-field issues but had enough talent to be in the NFL.
Also not good enough to dress: Higgins, Njoku, Randall. Those are guys we KNOW are better than the guys who started in their place. Avery was in that group too. Kitchens put guys in his doghouse and we’ll probably never know why.
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soup replied to the topic John Dorsey Browns draft picks etc in the forum Browns Forum 6 years, 2 months ago
Those calling out Callaway and Avery:
1. Callaway was a round 1 talent picked in round 4 due to risk. Who did we miss on that was chosen after Callaway in round 4 of that draft?
2. Avery couldn’t even dress with our staff. Dorseys job is to get coaches players that fit their scheme. While I was baffled why he wasn’t dressing, he also has yet to…[Read more]
Ice replied to the topic John Dorsey Browns draft picks etc in the forum Browns Forum 6 years, 2 months ago
He might have had to keep Hue for a year just to get the GM job. Haslam was talked about as a guy who was way too quick on the trigger and it was starting to hurt us in luring assistant coaches.
Not bringing in COMPETENT competition you mean. We had a bunch of shit tackles on the roster. But who was out there for us to get? Please don’t say…[Read more]
Ice replied to the topic John Dorsey Browns draft picks etc in the forum Browns Forum 6 years, 2 months ago
I remember thinking at the time that Tyrod Taylor was one of the worst available options at QB. He didn’t excite me at all. His work ethic was undoubtable though and he was a good influence on Baker.
I did not (and still don’t) understand trading Avery away. He’s a low risk guy with a ton of upside and we sure as hell could have used him this…[Read more]
Ice replied to the topic Rank the Browns biggest positions of need. in the forum Browns Forum 6 years, 2 months ago
OT
Pass Rusher
Safety (both)
LB
TE
OGIce replied to the topic Rank the Browns biggest positions of need. in the forum Browns Forum 6 years, 2 months ago

soup replied to the topic What football analytics tools could the Browns use to help influence their decis in the forum Browns Forum 6 years, 2 months ago
Correct, like when 2/3 of the people that are in our front office picked Corey Coleman (too small and never ran routes) because analytics showed he was in the 97th percentile in regards to his SPARQ score.
Set up SPARQ scores and they’ll match their draft board
soup replied to the topic What football analytics tools could the Browns use to help influence their decis in the forum Browns Forum 6 years, 2 months ago
Have you heard Haslam speak? He’s a moron
soup replied to the topic Rank the Browns biggest positions of need. in the forum Browns Forum 6 years, 2 months ago
Owner
GM
Head coach
Offensive coordinatorRT
LT
LBer
SS
FSIce started the topic Rank the Browns biggest positions of need. in the forum Browns Forum 6 years, 2 months ago
Do so now. Publicly. On this thread. I demand it. I’ll post mine soon when I get a minute.
soup replied to the topic What football analytics tools could the Browns use to help influence their decis in the forum Browns Forum 6 years, 2 months ago
And the source for Depodesta wanting McDermott is…..
At this point it’s Depodesta staring it so he looks better so he can keep living in CA doing nothing and making tons of money.
My ears will perk up the moment Stefanski says “I’m not going to call the plays” which won’t happen because he’s hell bent on calling them
soup replied to the topic What football analytics tools could the Browns use to help influence their decis in the forum Browns Forum 6 years, 2 months ago
Depodesta
Brown
Berry1-31 record.
Any questions?
You realize Dawg E Dawg is staying that analytics said not to use Kitchens and to go with Stefanski.
Source?
Analytics will be solely used in all choices moving forward. Nerds trust books and more often than not lack street smarts and instinct.
A bunch of book smart Ivy League guys are…[Read more]
Ice replied to the topic What football analytics tools could the Browns use to help influence their decis in the forum Browns Forum 6 years, 2 months ago
Source?
Source?
You’re going all Soup on us here making accusations and trying to pass them as fact.

soup replied to the topic What football analytics tools could the Browns use to help influence their decis in the forum Browns Forum 6 years, 2 months ago
Everything @shooter has stated is spot on. Who is responsible for the KC drafts that just won a Super Bowl? Dorsey. He screwed up the coaching search. Of course, Depodesta just screwed it up too. But analytics does that in football
Ice replied to the topic What football analytics tools could the Browns use to help influence their decis in the forum Browns Forum 6 years, 2 months ago
Dorsey left as a ‘mutual parting of ways’. IIRC Wolf and Hightower were fired. I should also point out that Berry came up in the NFL in scouting.
soup replied to the topic What football analytics tools could the Browns use to help influence their decis in the forum Browns Forum 6 years, 2 months ago
Actually I typed in “Belichick analytics” to see how he uses it.
I also typed in San Francisco 49ers analytics and that’s what popped up.
I was not utilizing confirmation bias. He mentioned the 49ers and I thought someone mentioned New England but if they didn’t, well, 6 Super Bowls speaks for itself.
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soup replied to the topic What football analytics tools could the Browns use to help influence their decis in the forum Browns Forum 6 years, 2 months ago
New England’s use of analytics via Bill Belichick in Sept 2019
“ Belichick, during his weekly Friday press conference, was asked how big of a role analytics plays into the Patriots’ day-to-day operations.
“Less than zero,” Belichick said, via ProFootballTalk.com. “Analytics is not really my thing.””But hey, keep on fighting the good fight.
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