My favorite Gregg Williams quote thus far:

“They’re going to be shocked with our contact. They’re going to be shocked with our speed. They’re going to be shocked with our strength. Respect comes from fear. This is how you get respect in this league…It’s a great game. It’s a production business.”

When I say this man is a killer, this is what I…[Read more]

soup wrote:
It won’t be Garrett. QB starved teams reach for QBs.

We didn’t last year.

To be fair, we did reach for a QB (Cody Kessler was in fact a reach), it just wasn’t in the first round.

So what you’re saying then Soup is that instead of installing a base defense and calling the formations in the beginning, Williams is going to unload the full defense and expect everyone to understand it completely right off the bat.

That’s what you’re saying?

That’s what Williams himself, and players who have played for him, have said. See p…[Read more]

This article (and videos) should be required reading and viewing for continued discourse on this subject:

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/01/a_gregg_williams_defense_5_thi.html

CLEVELAND, Ohio – The Browns hired Gregg Williams as defensive coordinator on Sunday, replacing Ray Horton after just one season.

Williams is a 26-season…[Read more]

This article (and videos) should be required reading and viewing for continued discourse on this subject:

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/01/a_gregg_williams_defense_5_thi.html

CLEVELAND, Ohio – The Browns hired Gregg Williams as defensive coordinator on Sunday, replacing Ray Horton after just one season.

Williams is a 26-season…[Read more]

you have to name who we are taking first (if it’s Garrett than it duplicates the Shooter bet)

My money is on Garrett.

It wasn’t Hue’s choice there like it is here. And i’d do the sig bet with both of you if you 2 don’t mind me having 2 different things at the bottom (or want to do a joint one to really give it to me)

It’s not Hue’s choice he…[Read more]

If you were driving around in a mustang, and your boss came up to you and said “here, have this Porsche instead”, are you gonna tell me that you’re going to be pissed about getting the Porche because you’d have to learn how to drive it? That’s basically what you sound like right now.

Depends on what kind of Porsche and what kind of Mustang h…[Read more]

If Shooter doesn’t want in on that action, I’ll take it. No way we take Watson at #1. I’m not saying they don’t like him, I’m not saying they won’t take him at #12 (or a subsequent pick). Some teams that need a QB do reach, we’re not that team. If we were the Carson Wentz era would already be upon us.

And for the record, I completely agree with…[Read more]

If Shooter doesn’t want in on that action, I’ll take it. No way we take Watson at #1. I’m not saying they don’t like him, I’m not saying they won’t take him at #12 (or a subsequent pick). Some teams that need a QB do reach, we’re not that team. If we were the Carson Wentz era would already be upon us.

And for the record, I completely agree with…[Read more]

Like I said, from a player development standpoint, I think this is a loss. NOt for the QBs that are in the system and on the roster necessarily, but from those that may find themselves here through free agency and the draft. The one thing Cleveland has been unable to do since the return is develop a QB. Hamilton was known as a QB whisperer (as is…[Read more]

Despite Soup’s gloom and doom (though I understand and agree that Horton was given inadequate personnel and generally treated unfairly), it’s not all bad news.

From: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/01/browns_dc_candidate_gregg_will.html

Here are some other things to know about Williams:

* A disciple of the legendary Buddy Ryan,…[Read more]

Unfortunate. I really feel like Pep could have been an asset when it comes to QB development. Given our record here and his history with Harbaugh, I really can’t blame him though.

I’m encouraged too Shooter. It’s nice to have a “killer” leading the defense. DO you have any doubt that if Jerome Harrison KO’s our next Colt McCoy that Williams won’t extract a pound of flesh from Big Ben? I don’t.

Give Greg Williams the roster Horton had to work with

That is, exactly what is happening Soup. Sure, we’ll have the draft. We…[Read more]

I’m encouraged too shooter. It’s nice to have a “killer” leading the defense. DO you have any doubt that if Jerome Harrison KO’s our next Colt McCoy that Williams won’t extract a pound of flesh from Big Ben? I don’t.

Give Greg Williams the roster Horton had to work with

That is, exactly what is happening Soup. Sure, we’ll have the draft. We…[Read more]

Sometimes you have to play the hand you are dealt. There’s not a can’t miss prospect at QB in this year’s draft. Do you still draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round? Of course. Do you feel about taking a QB in the first next year because you took a QB in the 2nd or 3rd last year? Absolutely not. Same with Horton. Best we could get, better is…[Read more]

You know how when you get punched in the nuts, you can laugh about it a few years later. “Awwww, you fucker, you really got me good”! See, it’s too soon. My nuts still ache.

There’s a reason I’ve said drafting a QB is an art and not a science. I’ve seen many of the same things you saw, and as I stated before, I think your concerns are valid. While I disagree with your overall assessment, I’ll be the first to agree that he is a boom or bust prospect, and I can’t blame you if you lean more towards the bust side of the…[Read more]

Bill, correct me if I’m wrong here, but after watching a lot of tape on this kid, I would say he has very good mechanics (in terms of a smooth delivery with no hitch, quick release with a flick of the wrist), but his footwork is crap and his release point are inconsistent (both things that can be improved by good coaching, neither in the order of…[Read more]

I would be hesitant due to the delivery. Typically teams try and change a successful QBs delivery which then ruins any hope. Bernie Kosar talked bout that with Quinn. The Browns changed his grip. When they drafted Kosar he said they left his delivery alone otherwise he probably would’ve failed in the NFL.

I think that is a fair concern given o…[Read more]