@ice I think I am the only one who ever votes C

I promise I will start being positive once there is something positive beside Gordon’s piss test.

@Shooter it’s not often we disagree, and I can certainly understand why you would want us to get more (who doesn’t want to get more?). Answer this one question:

What did Washington gain from the RG3 trade?

Washington gained the ability to move in front of the #3 team (Cleveland) to select RG3 (sorry @Ice, no one was ever taking RG3 over Luck,…[Read more]

@ice, but if someone dug said trenches for you, would you fill them back in and re-dig them just so you knee they were “your trenches”?

@Ice – I get sick of Browns fans referring to players as NFL ready. No player in “NFL ready” until they make it through training camp with a starting position

@ice definitely. He’s the first time we’ve ever been successful in our bi-annual efforts to find a “game managing veteran who can run the offense”…Detmer/Pederson/Dilfer/Dorsey/Delhomme/Wallace/Campbell. Yuck.

@Ice – Jordan Cameron was never very good hear. He had size but his blocking and pass route running sucked. If you pay really close attention he would like to run 7-8 yards and then stop turn around and start jumping up in the air like you would when you were in 6th grade playing football on the playground.

@shooter – hopefully he didn’t agree…[Read more]

@ice he’s about 2-3 months away from being considered “veteran leadership”, so it’s good to see.

Also, I had no idea Benji was in a contract year. So that kinda dampens the glow of his “breakout” year.

Honestly, he’s just trying to make the organization look like a goofy mess. He probably heard the “play like a Brown” slogan, looked at Haslam and Farmer, and thought “hey, me too!”.

@ice Was it champagne? Bottle looked the right shape, but my bartender eyes have been unable to figure out if it was that or one of those flavored liquers that…[Read more]

@thedude you can’t put it on Gilbert if he’s not being put in the best position to succeed. I believe (going straight from memory) that last year when Gilbert had the pick 6 he was in zone coverage. Something we don’t play at all now.

While I’m by no means exhonorating Farmer, if you look at the overall reviews of his picks (all but Manziel)…[Read more]

Great write up Bill – I am not sure I want Kosar to be involved in this organization – he has too many personal problems and the media would get carried away with it. A house cleaning is due – every player / coach / manager you made mention of has not performed very well. Shelton right now is the only one as you said has shown he can play. I am…[Read more]

@ice Exactly. I agree 100%. We are playing (hopefully) for the #1 pick and maybe – just maybe – Farmer will trip and fall and accidentally write the proper QB name on the card so we can move forward.

That’s on coaching.

@ice Carson Palmer suckered on the Raiders and is 18-4 with Arizona. Coaching is the key

@ice, thinking McCown is good enough to take us to the playoffs is the most Browns fan thing ever. As cynical and depressed as we all (usually) are on these forums, that’s truly beautiful. Thank you.

@Ice – I am more upset that the comments on the trade is he is a ticking time bomb and that he was cancer in the locker room. another wasted third round draft pick.

@syd – I hope you stick around for the ride. You have some great insight and many posters here do appreciate your comedy on top of it.

@ice thanks – One of the worst parts of DB was political arguing. I discourage this 100% and why I have been hesitant to request this. Sadly, as rough and ridiculous as it was, if it just was held to the hidden…[Read more]

To be frank, how do you know it didn’t give Brady an advantage throwing the ball. Ice made a point about baseball and pine tar / resin.

Let’s go a different route using @Ice ‘s scenario. Do you disagree softballs and baseballs travel at different velocities?

When have we ever in the last 15 years said hey our running back is healthy all year. If there is a player who you have scouted and feel like he is a strong addition, then you take him. You make it sound like West and Crow are all pro.

Again Soup, maybe Sheard wanted to play somewhere else and you assume we chose to let him walk. However, last…[Read more]

how many times a game do you think we should run?

I agree with @Ice. We need to find an OC willing to run under any and all conditions and never set the game aside. I also loathe when OC’s get cute – which Shannahan did multiple times to the tune of going 1-3 in those times. He refused to run when the situation dictated it.

This.

MDP, dude, I watched the game and smashed my dick with a hammer. Repeatedly. Watching that fucking game hurt like hell.

HOWEVER, there’s no going back. They should have either- A: Put JFF in the Colts game to get him some much-needed experience (as well as getting the line in sync- how many false starts were there again?), or B: Let…[Read more]