Browns Football Talk | soup | Mentions https://brownsfootballtalk.com/members/soup/activity/mentions/ Activity feed mentioning soup. Fri, 03 Apr 2026 18:32:29 -0400 https://buddypress.org/?v=5.1.2 en-US 30 hourly 2 bbd7ef954b6962fd265ef6bdbf5f9ef8 soup replied to the topic Preseason game 1 in the forum Browns Forum https://brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/preseason-game-1-2#post-21045 Mon, 16 Aug 2021 20:01:44 -0400 I sure hope you are right. Great news out of the gate there. Would love to see him light it up at a position we’ve lacked in for so long

]]> 9d4c357ae6f8e09c7775b3b62955ae45 DawgSoldier replied to the topic Browns Projected 53 Man Roster in the forum Browns Forum https://brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/browns-projected-53-man-roster#post-21028 Thu, 12 Aug 2021 15:39:38 -0400 @soup Being I listed 23/24 starters… I wanted to see who people thought was more valuable. Hubbard or Higgins

]]> 07c80281f9dc061bc189811d84213880 the dude replied to the topic Game balls and goats week 9 vs Hou in the forum Browns Forum https://brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/game-balls-and-goats-week-9-vs-hou#post-19788 Mon, 16 Nov 2020 14:53:18 -0500 @soup I bitches about Matt Millen the entire game. What a fucking moron.

]]> 9bb8321392f26780e7361eb78af64e12 Ice replied to the topic David Njoku asks for trade in the forum Browns Forum https://brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/david-njoku-asks-for-trade#post-19133 Mon, 06 Jul 2020 14:32:54 -0400 @soup Well no 1st rounders but a bunch of 2nd rounders.

@dawgsoldier Keep dreaming!

@MPD From what I hear our base set will be 2 TE. With Njoku gone that means we’re relying on a mid-round draft pick as a starter and that’s not a great thing.

]]> 689f0c9a7529e61be7a030f556cc655d soup replied to the topic OC rumors in the forum Browns Forum https://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/oc-rumors/#post-18037 Mon, 20 Jan 2020 00:32:53 -0500 That’s purely a guess. Last year was the first time Stefanski ever had an offense similar and it’s because Kubiak designed it.

Saleh has been awful today. SF D looks lost…

]]> 7f83921bef71505c034ee57c36104be4 Ice replied to the topic OC rumors in the forum Browns Forum https://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/oc-rumors/#post-18035 Mon, 20 Jan 2020 00:31:15 -0500 @Soup I hope you’re watching the 49ers game. Like their offense? That’s what is coming here, along with one of their OC’s.

]]> 978fffd1ef471dbb202afdd8d338c711 soup replied to the topic Game Balls and Goats va Buffalo Bills in the forum Browns Forum https://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/game-balls-and-goats-va-buffalo-bills/#post-17093 Mon, 11 Nov 2019 18:55:48 -0500 Yes it does. BTW – we won the game due to the false start – so that guy gets a game ball too (Gameday live was talking about it as it happened). down 7-6 you take the lead at home, not go for it there. So glad that guy false started their way out of that sure disaster.

]]> 8b8291de764644a5e7cc7892e53b8c25 the dude replied to the topic Game Balls and Goats va Buffalo Bills in the forum Browns Forum https://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/game-balls-and-goats-va-buffalo-bills/#post-17088 Mon, 11 Nov 2019 18:44:55 -0500 Yea they felt somewhat delayed. Believe out of the 9 plays they ran plus the additional 3 from the other series which ended up in a false start and then a field goal, they pound 2 in the 2/4 hole. Also ran 2 that were behind the tackle on delayed hand offs where they pulled the guard.

I didn’t like the fact that basically on all the pass plays…[Read more]

]]> 5b9609f7a07266f09bfe9c245039863f soup replied to the topic Odd and useless tidbit in the forum Browns Forum https://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/odd-and-useless-tidbit/#post-16093 Sun, 12 May 2019 17:56:12 -0400 It was my Brother’s bachelor party. I was hammered so no

]]> b6668eda668bdeadcf6d95c1aaa5f9d5 Ice replied to the topic Odd and useless tidbit in the forum Browns Forum https://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/odd-and-useless-tidbit/#post-16091 Sun, 12 May 2019 17:54:52 -0400 @Soup did you invite him to our site? I need a new UnnamedSource.

]]> 0270aaa17fcc27ad51b8fe8170c1206a Dawg E. Dawg replied to the topic Gregg Williams no longer with the team in the forum Browns Forum https://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/gregg-williams-no-longer-with-the-team/#post-15152 Thu, 10 Jan 2019 17:36:48 -0500 I get you now. I agree being flexible and having a variety of looks is good, but I also agree with Soup that we should stick with the base 4-3. Which, either way I agree we need a DT.

I’m just sick of the switching back and forth and watching Jabaal sheard and Phil Taylor get replaced by Shelton and Nassib and Orchard who get replaced by G…[Read more]

]]> 5f930948aa3acaa45d16d706844e7c91 Ice replied to the topic Gregg Williams no longer with the team in the forum Browns Forum https://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/gregg-williams-no-longer-with-the-team/#post-15145 Thu, 10 Jan 2019 15:55:02 -0500 I’m not talking about running the team in a 3-4 constantly. I’m saying that we are one stud away from being able to switch to it when needed and providing one hell of a flexible front. And that studly DT would also help us out in our 4-3 base as well.

I’m not looking to change the whole look of the defense, I’m saying we could run multiple looks…[Read more]

]]> 2c2ce5ec06a1e3a3f727e1aef0bd9722 MDP Sack Attack replied to the topic Condoleeza Rice for HC? in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/condoleeza-rice-for-hc/#post-14412 Mon, 19 Nov 2018 23:35:34 -0500 @soup she did say she’d never use a prevent defense. What more do you need?

]]> 310778969b7c6be708dc07c2a03ef1ff Shooter replied to the topic Mary Kay reporting Weak-Bodied Williams next coach in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/mary-kay-reporting-weak-bodied-williams-next-coach/#post-14072 Mon, 29 Oct 2018 21:32:31 -0400

Soup has fired him 81 times so far this season. So we promoted him. LOL @soup.

Just so fucking fantastic lol.

]]> 969de53d720e9e4c6771d5df2d031066 Ice replied to the topic Mary Kay reporting Weak-Bodied Williams next coach in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/mary-kay-reporting-weak-bodied-williams-next-coach/#post-14068 Mon, 29 Oct 2018 18:32:47 -0400 Soup has fired him 81 times so far this season. So we promoted him. LOL @soup.

]]> ee199067901ccacdfba8f1bec8ac5392 soup replied to the topic Hue has been FIRED in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/hue-has-been-fired/#post-14032 Mon, 29 Oct 2018 17:18:59 -0400 12 points in Q1 in 8 games. Baker completely regressing. Smart move

]]> 9cc8f4e6e237cddbca438409bb3fee20 Ice replied to the topic Hue has been FIRED in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/hue-has-been-fired/#post-14028 Mon, 29 Oct 2018 17:15:23 -0400 You can cross Haley off the list, he’s gone too.

Looks like they’re following @Soup‘s advice and just firing everyone.

]]> a3604f95f1af9e2fbf3e57b4d420c5be Ice replied to the topic Callaway cited for Marihuana Possession in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/callaway-cited-for-marihuana-possession/#post-12887 Wed, 08 Aug 2018 01:32:08 -0400 @Soup wtf is “MARIHUANA”??

Apparently he didn’t tell the team about it either. Hue found out when we did.
The excuse he’s going with is that he just had his car shipped up from Florida where his friends have been driving it for weeks. They must have left the weed in there.

He was already in step 1 of the NFL drug program because of his diluted…[Read more]

]]> f87cf94a8bf7b61cce5ba3383a54f8cf Shooter replied to the topic NFL discussing Flag for Kneeling during Anthem in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/nfl-discussing-flag-for-kneeling-during-anthem/#post-12607 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 17:28:48 -0400

@soup Nice writeup. Clearly you know more about marketing than you do about football, but that’s not a high bar.

He knows more about astrophysics and plate tectonics than he does football. He knows nothing about football lol. Literally anything you put up next to football, he knows more about that than he knows about football.

]]> e17be7317aecf25b06c36cc1684485fa Dawg E. Dawg replied to the topic NFL discussing Flag for Kneeling during Anthem in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/nfl-discussing-flag-for-kneeling-during-anthem/#post-12603 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 14:32:48 -0400 The first unanimously agreed with post in the history of the forum!

]]> d7ba105406ba548a0e9f48e512b31e60 Ice replied to the topic NFL discussing Flag for Kneeling during Anthem in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/nfl-discussing-flag-for-kneeling-during-anthem/#post-12600 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 12:33:39 -0400 You’re not alone. Almost half the country agrees with you. And almost half the country would feel the same if Hillary had won. But we don’t really want to discuss politics here right?

@soup Nice writeup. Clearly you know more about marketing than you do about football, but that’s not a high bar.

]]> e99ab9162753601969cd56751813fce5 Ice replied to the topic Why I'm not in favor of Josh Allen in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/why-im-not-in-favor-of-josh-allen/#post-12179 Sun, 22 Apr 2018 19:48:00 -0400 @Soup you have 3rd.

]]> 2d3d9918524881be5f5d7b52b723ce6d the dude replied to the topic Okay, I'll do it. Can the Browns trade for Nick Foles? in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/okay-ill-do-it-can-the-browns-trade-for-nick-foles/#post-11057 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 23:24:20 -0500 I have complained about Browns head coaches and to be frank, never like RAC and wished a couple of times he was canned.

I hate the Loser Hue Jackson. FUCKING ZERO AND SIXTEEN AND HE KEEPS HIS FUCKING JOB. Browns are the worst organization in professional sports history.

Every person I know asks me the same thing….. How can they keep a…[Read more]

]]> 99fc914a745506bad54d37f147c40c24 the dude replied to the topic Okay, I'll do it. Can the Browns trade for Nick Foles? in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/okay-ill-do-it-can-the-browns-trade-for-nick-foles/#post-11054 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 23:20:50 -0500 You are so weak bodied that we cannot even change your DNA.

]]> d8e5c72d462fcaad14654523447d6896 Shooter replied to the topic Okay, I'll do it. Can the Browns trade for Nick Foles? in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/okay-ill-do-it-can-the-browns-trade-for-nick-foles/#post-11050 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 23:04:16 -0500

@dude is now @soup. I’m convinced they’ve traded accounts.

I can’t even read his posts anymore. They’re all irrational, nonsensical drivel mixed with incorrect facts and littered with with the word “loser” 10-15 times per ridiculous paragraph.

It’s best to just move on for a while, wow.

Philly won’t do it. They’d be foolish to trade him

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]]> ff170ed18be2946a6b3f34aee1f3b176 DawgPoundDude replied to the topic Okay, I'll do it. Can the Browns trade for Nick Foles? in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/okay-ill-do-it-can-the-browns-trade-for-nick-foles/#post-11047 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 22:35:50 -0500 I’ve always liked Foles. But after last night, his asking price will be way too high. Great backup, currently playing with great receivers. Gotta say no.

I don’t think Jeff Bridges could talk him off of that ledge. I know I’m not gonna try.

]]> eff4ea48f7833f96dac748310b414f06 Ice replied to the topic Okay, I'll do it. Can the Browns trade for Nick Foles? in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/okay-ill-do-it-can-the-browns-trade-for-nick-foles/#post-11044 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 22:10:42 -0500 @dude is now @soup. I’m convinced they’ve traded accounts.

]]> 210e2928eb1d2a420e466c95237cbfef soup replied to the topic The Case for Kizer in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/the-case-for-kizer/#post-10124 Fri, 01 Dec 2017 20:38:38 -0500 Sorry, I get what you are asking now. If that exact means 0-16 (pretend we end that way this year) then yes. Repeat until it’s right

]]> 86520d2fe46000c131f5bb60476d4143 Ice replied to the topic The Case for Kizer in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/the-case-for-kizer/#post-10122 Fri, 01 Dec 2017 19:26:15 -0500 I’ll answer your question @soup, but you didn’t answer mine.

If we draft a QB 1st over all and we go to the playoffs I’ll be freaking thrilled, along with every other Browns fan. I’m not sure what the point of your question is. Enlighten me.

Yes. Let’s assume we draft a guy 1st overall and he looks exactly like Kizer did this year. Should we…[Read more]

]]> 6729c63ee23585bbf562c81b83d7a856 soup replied to the topic The Case for Kizer in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/the-case-for-kizer/#post-10120 Fri, 01 Dec 2017 16:46:58 -0500 Have to watch him and see (does he really look the same). Kizers past has matched his present. Inconsistent.

Devil’s advocate. What if we draft the #1 guy and we go to the playoffs?

Kizer couldn’t get two plays off in 20 seconds last week. There are so many red flags. He’s a 2nd round reach.

Again, once in 19 years have we selected a QB in…[Read more]

]]> 33ca0801519cb75e90f02232b5280261 Ice replied to the topic The Case for Kizer in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/the-case-for-kizer/#post-10118 Fri, 01 Dec 2017 13:22:28 -0500 @Soup So what if we draft a guy 1st overall and he has a season just like Kizer has had. Does that guy deserve a 2nd season or should we draft another QB in the first round?

]]> d17cc99a9b3ae5b6c4b7f6578c291e7b Ice replied to the topic So To Recap The Craziest Bye Week Ever... in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/so-to-recap-the-craziest-bye-week-ever/#post-10002 Sun, 05 Nov 2017 17:48:16 -0500 Good article. I specifically applaud the author for separating his opinion from fact, something @Soup could learn from.

Today the rumors are out that the coaches actually believe the front office sabotaged the trade on purpose. I know a lot of us already believe that, but if the coaches believe it then that is a HUGE problem.

]]> 195e933c4bd6fcef513c124090c4034e soup replied to the topic Fix the Browns NOW. in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/fix-the-browns-now-2/#post-9985 Thu, 02 Nov 2017 19:23:56 -0400 Zampese who was recently fired by Bengals for sucking. He was Hues QB coach in Cincy so he’s very familiar with the system. Combo of the two could work.

]]> 9e733a59ad87a1b533a4d1326d1ccade Ice replied to the topic Fix the Browns NOW. in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/fix-the-browns-now-2/#post-9979 Thu, 02 Nov 2017 18:08:19 -0400 @Shooter I think you misunderstood. What would you do right now to get us wins THIS YEAR? Your fixes in the front office won’t affect the current season at all. Also it sounds like you appreciate the Mike Holmgren approach. Was that a case of right system but wrong guy?

@Soup who would you hire as OC? Someone currently unemployed? Then you spend…[Read more]

]]> a5bc20aa9bc2e5c8b805f64e0fdeda88 Ice replied to the topic Game Balls and Goats vs Bengals week 4 in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/game-balls-and-goats-vs-bengals-week-4/#post-9602 Mon, 02 Oct 2017 13:06:18 -0400 Gameballs:

Ogbah – Might have been the best game of his career.
Duke – Continues to prove he is our only offensive playmaker.
Me – I watched the whole game and continued to chat with myself after everyone left.

Goats:

WR’s – If the Browns released ALL of their healthy receivers right now none of them would get jobs with other teams except for…[Read more]

]]> 0345e7763f973bee4b1e09ab3ef34d12 the dude replied to the topic Hue Jackson: Job is Cody Kessler's to lose in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/hue-jackson-job-is-cody-kesslers-to-lose/#post-8701 Mon, 15 May 2017 22:03:21 -0400 The problem is we’re the Cleveland Browns and when is the last time we haven’t used 3 qbs in one season…..

@Soup – they can compete as much as they want….but any coach with a brain always starts the best player.

]]> bc0f4c00b7ec2ae91792f9f1b8b03b55 soup replied to the topic Fire them all IMMEDIATELY in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/fire-them-all-immediately/#post-8654 Wed, 03 May 2017 13:26:41 -0400 I agree, except Kizer is a 6th in my eyes. So the overview is this:

Kizer 6th round talent taken in round 2 (think Geno Smith and Jimmy Clausen)

Brantley 2nd round talent taken in round 6

]]> af0f56936f14904d70cce985198afeed Ice replied to the topic Fire them all IMMEDIATELY in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/fire-them-all-immediately/#post-8652 Wed, 03 May 2017 13:16:25 -0400 You guys are turning this discussion into an argument about semantics. Arguing over the order of words is not interesting.

@Soup I never said I didn’t like these QB’s, I said I don’t like any of them in the 1st round. I like a couple of them in the 2nd. Most ‘experts’ think Kizer was a good value where we got him. I view him as more of a 3rd…[Read more]

]]> 0765efabe1a41fe9139fa0236b46add4 soup replied to the topic Caleb Brantley in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/caleb-brantley/#post-8621 Mon, 01 May 2017 13:46:17 -0400 This times 1000.

]]> 12b13cd2f51a67c912928866e4c5b0a8 Dawg E. Dawg replied to the topic Caleb Brantley in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/caleb-brantley/#post-8619 Mon, 01 May 2017 13:41:55 -0400 I agree with this completely. But, the facts from Brantley case aren’t clear. Some stories say she wasn’t stopping until he hit her (possibly she was trying to get a lawsuit for the money). Some stories say he didn’t even through a punch (possibly Brantley paid somebody off to say that though).

Then there’s the fact that he wasn’t charged…[Read more]

]]> c549dad29e9e0db04deecd9dfd0fcff3 Ice replied to the topic Caleb Brantley in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/caleb-brantley/#post-8616 Mon, 01 May 2017 13:31:36 -0400 @Soup I don’t get mad at guys for lack of talent. I get mad at guys who have lack of effort or lack of morals. I hate Manziel. I hate Gilbert. I don’t hate Erving, I actually kind of pity him. He’s a good guy, a hard worker, he just sucks.

I don’t know enough about Brantley’s situation to pass judgement but unless she’s holding a deadly weapon…[Read more]

]]> 3f486ac54153b3a7a8500457ed23fded Ice replied to the topic How do you grade day 1 of the draft? in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/how-do-you-grade-day-1-of-the-draft/#post-8561 Fri, 28 Apr 2017 22:45:47 -0400 @Soup is everyone fired yet?

]]> b44650733d99cb248a455258eff0ce30 Ice replied to the topic Brownsed up another draft in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/brownsed-up-another-draft/#post-8519 Fri, 28 Apr 2017 13:32:32 -0400 LOL @Soup, are you thinking about someone else? Peppers played a little LB in college too.

I forget what game it was, but I watched a Mich game this past year and Peppers took that game over. He was running back kicks, all over the field on defense. Had his name called every 5 minutes. In 2 years this will be Soup’s favorite player. Picture Josh…[Read more]

]]> 81382bf1883509915d2136c401d0d025 Ice replied to the topic Do you guys remember Josh Gordon? in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/do-you-guys-remember-josh-gordon/#post-8329 Mon, 03 Apr 2017 16:41:57 -0400 So that totally disproves @Soup‘s idea that the league office punished Gordon so harshly because he’s a Brown and Goodell hates the Browns. Johnny Rotten sure gave Goodell every excuse to put another nail in the Brown’s coffin.

So since that’s off the table, I’m assuming @Shooter you think it’s something personal then between Goodell and…[Read more]

]]> 53564625888e11f574c56bc167bfbc58 Ice replied to the topic Pryor to Wash. 1 year 8 mill in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/pryor-to-wash-1-year-8-mill/#post-8137 Wed, 15 Mar 2017 12:44:37 -0400 Excellent point @Soup.

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

]]> 5b8bc16161127318ab5aa459d03c0bdf Ice replied to the topic Dawgstyle's Notes from the Combine (thus far) in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/dawgstyles-notes-from-the-combine-thus-far/#post-7864 Tue, 07 Mar 2017 17:36:29 -0500 Take a look at this. @Soup, I think you’ll especially like it.

He goes through some of the decision making challenges that Kizer has to overcome.

]]> 6c2c19f0922d057d9227287f12204ef9 Dawgstyle replied to the topic Strategy: 2017 Draft Preview in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/strategy-2017-draft-preview/#post-7002 Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:13:24 -0500 @soup and @shooter I’m going to disagree on Fournette simply because he’s not at a position of need. There’s a reason you take the Best Player Available. If Fournette is really the best RB since (or you feel he’s as good as) Adrian Peterson, he’s a player that can take over the game. Guys like that change the face of your franchise.

Here’s the…[Read more]

]]> 410ef0841c7593dc763fca18bb8b635f Dawgstyle replied to the topic Strategy: 2017 Draft Preview in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/strategy-2017-draft-preview/#post-7002 Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:13:24 -0500 @soup and @shooter I’m going to disagree on Fournette simply because he’s at a position of need. There’s a reason you take the Best Player Available. If Fournette is really the best RB since (or you feel he’s as good as) Adrian Peterson, he’s a player that can take over the game. Guys like that change the face of your franchise.

Here’s the…[Read more]

]]> 314eb2c24a3007f06ece942f02148ca9 MDP Sack Attack replied to the topic There's hope, right? in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/theres-hope-right/#post-6580 Mon, 14 Nov 2016 21:08:41 -0500 Unless I’m mistaken, I think that’s untrue…Vegas had our odds at 0% two weeks ago, which I assumed meant we were mathematically eliminated.

@Soup: I don’t disagree with giving them a chance. The last coach we gave a fair shake was Romeo Crennel…that’s back when we were just bad, not a complete joke. It’s been super downhill from that.…[Read more]

]]> e4254f692a56bbc5c4adcc19cda55c88 Ice replied to the topic Browns looking to trade Gordon? in the forum Browns Forum http://www.brownsfootballtalk.com/forums/topic/browns-looking-to-trade-gordon/#post-5590 Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:17:56 -0400 @shooter You trade him IF you get what you want in return. If you don’t, then you say “I told you a long time ago we’re not trying to trade him” and you keep him.

@soup you may be right, but that only explains 1 of those 4 ‘coincidences’.

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